Post by: bankwalker on July 11, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.
Post by: JPhelps on July 11, 2012, 11:21:14 AM
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.
Post by: bankwalker on July 11, 2012, 11:28:10 AM
I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube. :chuckle:
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.
That's just cheap promotion :tup:
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 11, 2012, 04:21:28 PM
I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube. :chuckle:
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.
That's just cheap promotion :tup:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Huntbear on July 11, 2012, 04:24:52 PM
What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?
I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.
Do you think a Rosie bull elk in the rut will know what a Rocky Mtn. Bull will sound like?? So those bulls that travel back and forth across the Cascade Range, will never answer each other???
Bull Elk: Hey, that bugle sounds funny.. must be one of them west side boys... so am not gonna answer it..
Post by: Nextleveloutdoors on July 11, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube. :chuckle::yeah:
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.
Post by: Webfoot on July 11, 2012, 06:05:21 PM
Technique varies a little but not much.
John
Post by: MIKEXRAY on July 11, 2012, 06:28:34 PM
Post by: bankwalker on July 11, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?
I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.
Do you think a Rosie bull elk in the rut will know what a Rocky Mtn. Bull will sound like?? So those bulls that travel back and forth across the Cascade Range, will never answer each other???
Bull Elk: Hey, that bugle sounds funny.. must be one of them west side boys... so am not gonna answer it..
Oh they'll know :chuckle:
Post by: kentrek on July 11, 2012, 07:15:27 PM
What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?
I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.
Do you think a Rosie bull elk in the rut will know what a Rocky Mtn. Bull will sound like?? So those bulls that travel back and forth across the Cascade Range, will never answer each other???
Bull Elk: Hey, that bugle sounds funny.. must be one of them west side boys... so am not gonna answer it..
rocky mtn elk have a tad bit more of a temper than rosys,just my :twocents:
Post by: DoubleJ on July 11, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
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Post by: shorthair15 on July 11, 2012, 08:13:38 PM
Post by: JPhelps on July 11, 2012, 08:23:11 PM
Elk Calling = 90% operator / 10% call. At least when it comes to bugle tubes. Diaphragm selection and external reeds the call has more to do with the sound.
The big volume tubes (competition style like my tube, bully bull and elknut chuckler) will aid in volume and make a bad caller sound a little better and a good caller sound excellent. Then there is the balance of backpressure and volume. The proper backpressure will assist in working the diaphragm and getting the resonance out of the plastic tube. Too big of an opening on either end and you will lose some, not big enough openings and it becomes difficult to get the high clear notes.
The smaller tubes are a lot nicer to pack all day, but do give up some volume and calling diversity.
Post by: Cylvertip on July 12, 2012, 10:22:46 AM
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Post by: JPhelps on July 12, 2012, 03:03:38 PM
JPhelps, last I heard you were out of those bugles. Is this some kind of racket so you can triple the prices when you "find" an extra one and pass it off as a rare vintage lost to the ages? :chuckle:
I still have them in stock.
I will sell YOU one for triple with my spit in it. :chuckle:
Post by: bankwalker on July 12, 2012, 10:22:30 PM
Bankwalker now that you got your new bow are going east side or west side this year for elk?
Idk I've been beating myself up trying to decide. I haven't even scouted over here yet :bash:
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 13, 2012, 09:24:52 PM
What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?
I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.
No difference between the elk language of RM or Rooseys bankwalker. I actually asked this question to Larry D Jones when I moved out here from MT in the late 80s.. He said samey same (as somebody said Elknut1 stated) and I've experienced just this after bouncing back and forth between MT and WA for the past 25 years. Same sounds. A guy's just gotta learn to use his calls of choice to a high level of proficiency (not perfect, just good) and more importantly, understand elk language in different scenarios.. Once you understand what elk are saying/desiring, you have a much better chance at responding correctly and putting a big brown guys nose in the dirt. RJ
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