Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 16, 2012, 04:54:13 PM
Post by: colockumelk on July 16, 2012, 05:17:55 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2012, 05:22:03 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
Post by: coastie hunter on July 16, 2012, 05:28:45 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 16, 2012, 05:39:42 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 16, 2012, 05:42:37 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 16, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2012, 05:45:18 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 16, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
Post by: windygorge on July 16, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
Lets keep it pg boys. I will not be sending any man a slippery trick.
question Drock. so when your thunderhead fell apart, were you using those cheap axis arrows with those cheap internal nocks? :dunno:
cause thats the only time i have seen it where the blades where not able to get tight enough. internal nocks are junk!! :stirthepot: not Thunderheads
Post by: windygorge on July 16, 2012, 06:46:10 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2012, 07:04:06 PM
Lets keep it pg boys. I will not be sending any man a slippery trick.
question Drock. so when your thunderhead fell apart, were you using those cheap axis arrows with those cheap internal nocks? :dunno:
cause thats the only time i have seen it where the blades where not able to get tight enough. internal nocks are junk!! :stirthepot: not Thunderheads
Honestly ive never shot them. I was just
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 16, 2012, 07:05:31 PM
Post by: ThePascoKid on July 16, 2012, 07:09:55 PM
Post by: windygorge on July 16, 2012, 07:34:19 PM
I will finish that last post now i was just :stirthepot:
:chuckle: you had me goin real good
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 16, 2012, 08:41:20 PM
Post by: et1702 on July 17, 2012, 07:50:02 AM
Looks like Colockum is already donating a 125gr Slick Trick, or you could have one of these too. They do fly good, but I don't like them. Very Poor penetration in my experience w/deer & elk, plus broken blades. Only BH I've never had full penetration thru critters. Just so you know, it's not the bow. I shoot 72lbs, 31.5" draw, Hoyt Trykon XL w/IBO of 318fps. My current arrow & BH setup is 525gr and still shooting 270 to 275 fps and almost 90ftlbs KE.
ET
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 17, 2012, 08:05:51 AM
Post by: whacker1 on July 17, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
I posted the Archery Talk thread on the slick trick conversation on page 4. It is over 50 pages now and they have tested a done of different broadheads.
Here is the link again in case you want to read up on it.
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1790525&highlight=Ulmer+Edge (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1790525&highlight=Ulmer+Edge)
Post by: Harborhunter on July 17, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 18, 2012, 07:09:54 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on July 18, 2012, 07:25:21 AM
Are we taking bets now? Online gambling is illegal.
only if you get caught.
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 18, 2012, 07:31:16 AM
Post by: deerslyr on July 18, 2012, 07:34:06 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 18, 2012, 07:54:41 AM
Post by: GT on July 18, 2012, 08:51:44 AM
Broadhead Durability Test (Raw Footage) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWYwPLADW_k#ws)
Link to the company's website:
http://solid-broadheads.com/products/ (http://solid-broadheads.com/products/)
I have no affiliation with this company.
Post by: eltaco on July 18, 2012, 09:07:18 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 18, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on July 18, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Post by: 520backyard on July 18, 2012, 08:59:30 PM
I have pictures of a Montec that I buried into a tree and cut out and hours later, the same broadhead did the trick to send a bull to the dirt. That's tough enough for me. :twocents:
Yep my money is on Montecs too. Tougher than hell
Post by: deerslyr on July 18, 2012, 09:14:11 PM
I have pictures of a Montec that I buried into a tree and cut out and hours later, the same broadhead did the trick to send a bull to the dirt. That's tough enough for me. :twocents:
Yep my money is on Montecs too. Tougher than hell
I like montecs. Regardless I think a one piece head is the one who is going to win the "toughest" broad head challenge.
Post by: quadrafire on July 19, 2012, 10:18:06 AM
http://youtu.be/Qc-srIw3na0 (http://youtu.be/Qc-srIw3na0)
Post by: colockumelk on July 21, 2012, 10:39:29 AM
Post by: windygorge on July 21, 2012, 02:59:15 PM
Post by: JLS on July 21, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
Post by: windygorge on July 21, 2012, 03:03:46 PM
I haven't tried harvesting a steel plate yet. My broadheads work fine for deer and elk though.
true dat :tup:
Post by: oldcamper on July 21, 2012, 04:41:06 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 21, 2012, 05:03:26 PM
These may be really hard to beat:O.k I can buy this one ...the reason this head is this tough is because it is stainless ....I would like to get my hands on one for our broadhead test .... :yeah:
Broadhead Durability Test (Raw Footage) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWYwPLADW_k#ws)
Link to the company's website:
http://solid-broadheads.com/products/ (http://solid-broadheads.com/products/)
I have no affiliation with this company.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 21, 2012, 05:05:54 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 21, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Post by: Sliverslinger on July 24, 2012, 07:06:11 AM
Post by: blackhorn on July 24, 2012, 09:48:45 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 24, 2012, 09:53:54 AM
I'm interested to see what comes of this. Base only on my unofficial experience with them my thoughts are that the Montex will win for mainstream 1 piece and the G5 Striker or Muzzy's for replaceable blade heads. Now, there are other high end broadheads that I've never had the opportunity to even see, let alone try but I'd imagine Grizzlystick and Silver flames heads would do well. Only problem is, considering cost, anyone who has one might be reluctant to donate it.one thing I do know for sure is Muzzy is no match for a Wasp Boss....I already been down that road but as far as the others we will see.....hopefully in the next week or two we can do our test BUT I WISH SOME WOULD ROUND UP SOME OLDER BROADHEADS FOR USE ...Kinda hard to buy one broadhead ...if we can donate one then some others should help us out and do the same .....JUST MONEY :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :rolleyes:
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 24, 2012, 11:16:57 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on July 24, 2012, 11:47:15 AM
I'm interested to see what comes of this. Base only on my unofficial experience with them my thoughts are that the Montex will win for mainstream 1 piece and the G5 Striker or Muzzy's for replaceable blade heads. Now, there are other high end broadheads that I've never had the opportunity to even see, let alone try but I'd imagine Grizzlystick and Silver flames heads would do well. Only problem is, considering cost, anyone who has one might be reluctant to donate it.one thing I do know for sure is Muzzy is no match for a Wasp Boss....I already been down that road but as far as the others we will see.....hopefully in the next week or two we can do our test BUT I WISH SOME WOULD ROUND UP SOME OLDER BROADHEADS FOR USE ...Kinda hard to buy one broadhead ...if we can donate one then some others should help us out and do the same .....JUST MONEY :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :rolleyes:
I have a montecs, magnus snuffer ss, magnus buzzcut, and zwickey I can donate.
Post by: GT on July 24, 2012, 12:05:26 PM
Did anyone else see the price on those Solid broadheads, $75 BUCKS! You gotta be kidding! That is 25 bucks each, with a 12 dollar arrow that would be 37 bucks being flung down range.
blackhorn: so you're paying $144/dozen for arrows. Not cheap by any means. You could have bought a dozen arrows for less than $60. Why did you choose the $144 per dozen arrows? Did you spend less than $250 on a bow? If not, you probably could have. So why did you buy a more expensive bow? If you feel $75 for a pkg of 3 Solid S30V broadheads is too much, then obviously go with something cheaper that you feel is better and have confidence in. You have many choices available. I, for one, am impressed with the Solid broadhead. I have no issues with paying for quality and performance.
Post by: blackhorn on July 24, 2012, 05:13:34 PM
Post by: bearpaw on July 24, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
I used to use Zwickey 135s. I think they were Diamond Eskimos or something. I'd shoot them into a sand bank to tune and bring the edge back in about 2 minutes. I shot a cow one day, and a deer the next with the same arrow and broadhead. They're just about indestructible, but you have to get them on straight and the bow finely tuned or they plane like a mother.
A friend of mine killed a bull, bear, and buck all in the same year with the same zwickey many years ago, pretty indestructable. :tup:
Post by: sebek556 on July 24, 2012, 05:47:09 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: long but funny
Post by: blackhorn on July 24, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
Post by: coastie hunter on July 24, 2012, 07:51:01 PM
Post by: TommyH on July 24, 2012, 10:40:06 PM
Post by: windygorge on July 25, 2012, 05:23:20 AM
http://www.hunorarchery.com/products/magor/ (http://www.hunorarchery.com/products/magor/)
http://youtu.be/hbkHmEjm2ao (http://youtu.be/hbkHmEjm2ao)
and you want bone penetration? how bout this
http://youtu.be/1JRCcqkd4mE (http://youtu.be/1JRCcqkd4mE)
Post by: rebal69972 on July 25, 2012, 08:04:54 AM
Post by: summit creek on July 31, 2012, 08:30:50 PM
I would also like to see a thunderhead just crumble apart like they do.
[/qote]all you wannabe red skins are the same wound wound wound and so on shoot the firs doe dont find shoot another grab me a beer i dont see blood
Post by: sebek556 on July 31, 2012, 08:32:40 PM
I would also like to see a thunderhead just crumble apart like they do.what the!?!?!?!
[/qote]all you wannabe red skins are the same wound wound wound and so on shoot the firs doe dont find shoot another grab me a beer i dont see blood
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 31, 2012, 08:57:06 PM
Bubba's Devastating Annihilator broadheads (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3tk61rG_YU#ws)That was as good as it gets ... :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Thanks for posting that one Sebek556 :drool:
:chuckle: :chuckle: long but funny
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 31, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
Post by: sebek556 on July 31, 2012, 09:00:46 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 31, 2012, 09:11:27 PM
To do this correctly all broadheads need to be shot on identical arrows from the same bow.Thats right D-ROCK and you will be the shooter and I will be the videoer :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: and you can donate the arrows :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :hello: I think we should use aluminum arrows just because the will not blow up ....all the tests I seen were with carbon and the blew up or the broadhead got pushed into the shaft .....my main reason for this test is to see who has the toughest tip and which head fails do to blades fallen out and of course to see which ones blow apart :yike: :chuckle: I am kidding about the arrows and once we have all the heads I will figure out the arrow issue !
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 31, 2012, 09:12:57 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 31, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
Awesome idea, and finally BH45 will shut up about those dang wasp broad heads :chuckle:. I would like to see how "toughest" is going to be scored, how about a penetration test too?:hello: :drool: :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: grade-creek-rd on August 02, 2012, 10:28:16 PM
Go ahead, test all you want...but in the end, nothing will come close to the durability of a VPA broadhead...
Grade-Creek-Rd
Post by: blacktailcody on August 03, 2012, 07:13:30 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 03, 2012, 07:42:08 PM
Post by: demontang on August 06, 2012, 12:04:36 PM
Post by: blacktailcody on January 11, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 11, 2013, 08:04:28 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 11, 2013, 08:48:24 PM
Post by: jstone on January 11, 2013, 10:16:51 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 12, 2013, 01:38:53 PM
Post by: RadSav on January 12, 2013, 02:06:52 PM
I use Montecs, but I think the 2-blade Zwickey Eskimos are about as tough as you can get. I used to use them. I shot a cow with one and it went through a rib and came out through her should joint on the other side. Used it to kill a deer a couple of days later. Awesome broadheads. Maybe I killed the deer first, then the elk. Anyway,...
How is a guy suppose to remember which came first after 11 plus years :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 12, 2013, 03:48:27 PM
I use Montecs, but I think the 2-blade Zwickey Eskimos are about as tough as you can get. I used to use them. I shot a cow with one and it went through a rib and came out through her should joint on the other side. Used it to kill a deer a couple of days later. Awesome broadheads. Maybe I killed the deer first, then the elk. Anyway,...
How is a guy suppose to remember which came first after 11 plus years :chuckle:
And that's the truth, too. Who are you, Rad? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on January 12, 2013, 04:09:41 PM
http://biggeekdad.com/2012/02/senior-moments-brain-farts/ (http://biggeekdad.com/2012/02/senior-moments-brain-farts/)
Post by: Whitetail freak on January 12, 2013, 04:13:31 PM
Post by: earlmarne on January 12, 2013, 04:30:32 PM
Post by: coachcw on January 12, 2013, 04:40:42 PM
Post by: RadSav on January 12, 2013, 05:08:27 PM
Post by: earlmarne on January 12, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
Post by: sakoshooter on January 13, 2013, 10:40:01 PM
Post by: kentrek on January 13, 2013, 11:36:55 PM
I've thought on this one for a bit now and can't for the life of me figure out what shooting any broadhead into bullet proof glass is going to prove.
:yeah: nev seen any animals with a glass shield over there vitals...maybe i gota get back to hunting those urban critters
shoulder blades an ballistic gel covered with leather would be a pretty sweet target...but seems kinda redundant since everyone already knows slick tricks would win :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on January 13, 2013, 11:41:10 PM
I've thought on this one for a bit now and can't for the life of me figure out what shooting any broadhead into bullet proof glass is going to prove.
It will prove that after hunting season and before 3-D season bowhunters get bored enough to ruin perfectly good equipment to evaluate the least important feature of broadhead design. Duh :chuckle:
Post by: Whitehunter on January 13, 2013, 11:48:01 PM
Set err up. Distance?
Post by: deerslyr on January 14, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
if i could figure out how to sharpen,or if they came sharp i would never shoot another head then the shuttle ts
Ive taken everything to the shuttle t black ops to get them sharp, nothing worked to give them an edge that I wanted. Having said that I got a pass through a doe this year at 65 yards shooting a 430 grain arrow at 250 fps. Ill continue using them after seeing that and they fly like darts. I will say that my montecs were a whole lot "tougher" considering there one piece stainless steel design but I could never get them to fly that well. I believe a one piece steel design will win the "toughest broadhead" challenge rather than a broad head with replaceable blades. Just because there tough doesnt mean that there better though :twocents:
Post by: sakoshooter on January 14, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
I've thought on this one for a bit now and can't for the life of me figure out what shooting any broadhead into bullet proof glass is going to prove.
It will prove that after hunting season and before 3-D season bowhunters get bored enough to ruin perfectly good equipment to evaluate the least important feature of broadhead design. Duh :chuckle:
Now that I can go along with RadSav
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 21, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
and I am really sorry but I have not ever had a wasp 100 not be a complete pass threw ...never ! :sry: :chuckle:
Post by: TommyH on January 22, 2013, 07:14:33 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on January 22, 2013, 09:04:37 AM
Post by: Whitehunter on January 22, 2013, 09:11:17 PM
easy way to prove this is spending a bit of $$$ n do a side by side comparison with same bow same weight.
some one already mention this.
i dont need to be proven to know i can trust my equipment when it counts
Post by: Crunchy on January 22, 2013, 09:14:14 PM
Post by: Whitehunter on January 22, 2013, 09:23:58 PM
last 5 years or so only killed with Montecs.
Post by: TheDiamondArcher on January 23, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
Post by: Whitehunter on January 23, 2013, 10:13:22 PM
But then again. Curious on if it makes a difference with a slower less power bow.
Everybody here has great ideas for sure! Glad fn muzzy not involved! Lol
Post by: sakoshooter on January 27, 2013, 11:00:14 PM
Post by: Smossy on January 27, 2013, 11:06:11 PM
Ive yet to actually invest in a good set of heads just because I havent had my hunter education class yet. Cant hunt, dont need good heads.
But the Montecs are what Ive had my eye on..
They seem real tough, Semi easy to sharpen - Maybe not to the factory razor edge but close.
Post by: Smossy on January 27, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
Seems like some people are hit and miss with them..?
100 Grain or 125?
Post by: JLS on January 27, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
Scratch that question, Missed the 1st page of this.
Seems like some people are hit and miss with them..?
100 Grain or 125?
Take a look at VPA Razors if you want that style of head.
Post by: Smossy on January 27, 2013, 11:17:25 PM
Scratch that question, Missed the 1st page of this.
Seems like some people are hit and miss with them..?
100 Grain or 125?
Take a look at VPA Razors if you want that style of head.
Hmm those actually look pretty nice, Ive heard the G5 Montecs whistle anyways.
I have no hands on experience with them myself but yeah, a slight whistle, cant be good.
More then likely because of the way the broadhead blades have open insides.
The VPA's dont. Ill check them out thanks buddy!
Post by: owmygulay on January 27, 2013, 11:29:27 PM
Scratch that question, Missed the 1st page of this.
Seems like some people are hit and miss with them..?
100 Grain or 125?
Take a look at VPA Razors if you want that style of head.
Another vote for the Vpa 3 blade. You can get them vented or non vented. The non vented are supposed to be pretty silent and tough. They are not welded like the montecs either. Machined out of one solid piece.
Post by: Smossy on January 27, 2013, 11:35:59 PM