Post by: IBspoiled on July 19, 2012, 09:15:20 AM
I'm looking to purchase a new camera. I found the old post on camera's from way back in 2007, but I thought that might be a little outdated info now. I have used the Canon point and shoots always, so I'm looking to stay with Canon because I know most of the functions. What I would really like is a camera with a nice lens to reach out a few hundred yards and capture great photo's. Here are a couple that I am considering. http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=E1CNDRT2IK1855 (http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=E1CNDRT2IK1855)
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=E2CNDRT2IK1855 (http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=E2CNDRT2IK1855)
Any input would be much appreciated. Can anyone tell me the difference in the lenses that come with these two? I really have no experience with lenses and don't know what all the specifications really mean. One comes with a 75-300mm lens and the other with a 55-250mm lens, which would work best for reaching out and capturing great photo's of say elk, deer, and such?
Here are a couple shots I took with my Canon Power Shot SX200, I like it's performance for up close pictures, but the one photo is out probably around 600-700 yards and I know I could really capture a great picture with a nice lens.
Thanks for any input. :tup:
Post by: Huntbear on July 19, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
You may be able to save some cash by buying a used body like a Canon 40d. I bought one used and I love it.. Spend the rest of a good telephoto lens..
I know Huntphool, bone and grandpawrichard can chime in and be of more help than I can...
Welcome to the insanity! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: JohnVH on July 19, 2012, 09:53:27 AM
Im a canon fan also, started with a Rebel, then a 20D, now a 30D, but want a 5D MKIII. Glass is what makes the photo's though, a good camera with a crappy lens will take crappy pics.
30D, 70-200L IS F2.8
Few years ago in montana
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Post by: grandpawrichard on July 19, 2012, 10:59:51 AM
When my wife wanted to start taking photos of Eagles and other critters I opted to get her an Image Stabilized lens because she isn't as steady handed as I am, plus being a beginner I figured I needed to give here the advantage of the Image stabilization to help her get better photos. She is now doing quite well with her camera and lens combination. :)
The bigger you go in a telephoto, the more reach you have, But; you need to be Rock Solid with either your hands, or a Tripod, or a Mono-pod. The reason for this is the slightest movements as you trip the shutter are magnified through the lens, so you have the possibility of out of focus shots.
I use several tricks to aid in my photo shooting when I am not using a Tripod or Mono-pod. One trick is to use the Marksmanship training I learned many years ago. Take in a deep breath, let half out to steady the shot and then smoothly press down on the shutter release and fire off the shot between heartbeats.
Another trick I will use is to steady myself by leaning against trees, buildings, rocks or anything else that is handy. I will also prop the lens against objects to help steady the shot!
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One thing I have found through the years is that no matter how large your telephoto lens is, there is always times that you wish it was even bigger! ;) :) :D I would Love to have a 600 mm lens or an 800 mm lens. :)
Like Huntbear said, the lenses on a camera are extremely Important, so if you are willing to buy a decent used camera you will save quite a bit money which you can then spend on the Best lenses you can afford. John bought my old Canon 40D when I upgraded to my Canon 7D. I am so glad to see the remarkable difference it made in his photos and that he was then able to save the money he did to buy Darned good lenses to even make his photos so much better! :) Plus I know the camera went to a good home that will use it, take care of it and enjoy it for a long time to come. :)
Canon has a Loyalty program that you can use to purchase Refurbished cameras and lenses at a greatly reduced prices. You can call them at: Customer Loyalty Program's direct number is 866-443-8002. To find out prices. It's always best to know exactly what camera body and lens you are looking for.
Either of the camera kits you are looking at will be capable of taking fantastic shots, so Good Luck to you and let us know what you have chosen! :)
Dick
Post by: JohnVH on July 19, 2012, 11:17:28 AM
Richard, do you sharpen pics in PS? That Eagle shot isnt very sharp, unless the ISO was really high. That brings up another point, get and learn photoshop (PS)
Some panning practice
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Post by: grandpawrichard on July 19, 2012, 11:26:30 AM
Dick
Post by: JohnVH on July 19, 2012, 11:27:40 AM
Ive rented a couple TC's, but never liked them, rather have real good glass.
Post by: grandpawrichard on July 19, 2012, 11:30:46 AM
Dick
Post by: IBspoiled on July 19, 2012, 02:55:45 PM
Post by: JohnVH on July 19, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
B: carry it
Post by: shanevg on July 19, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
Good luck!
Post by: IBspoiled on July 19, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
Post by: JohnVH on July 19, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
Post by: jyerxa on July 19, 2012, 05:48:15 PM
OH yeah. That eagle pic is awesome :tup:
Post by: grandpawrichard on July 19, 2012, 09:41:11 PM
I bought the jacket about 4 years ago. It has been washed do many times that it is loosing it's coloring in the green shades, but it sure is nice and warm and it is wearing like iron! :)
Dick
Post by: jyerxa on July 19, 2012, 09:48:40 PM
Post by: quadrafire on July 19, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
I was in your shoes last summer. I bought the rebel kit and it was too small for my hands. I took it back for the 7D kit and the body was awsome. The lenses not so much. I purchased a used 70-200 f4 about 1/2 the price of JohnVH 2.8. Still gets great pics in good light. My used lens was about $1K.
IF I was to do it over again. I would probably try to find a good used body and spend my money on a good lens or 2. You hear all the time it is all about the glass. I didn't think that was serious until I started shooting. It is all about the glass.
Another option would be to buy the kit, get experience with the camera then sell them and upgrade eventually?
Post by: grandpawrichard on July 19, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
Your lens. I would be fearful of screwing it up. That is a nice lens!
DOH! What a dunderhead I am! ;) :) My wife made the Camo lens coats for me! :)
Dick
Post by: grandpawrichard on July 19, 2012, 10:55:07 PM
IB
I was in your shoes last summer. I bought the rebel kit and it was too small for my hands. I took it back for the 7D kit and the body was awsome. The lenses not so much. I purchased a used 70-200 f4 about 1/2 the price of JohnVH 2.8. Still gets great pics in good light. My used lens was about $1K.
IF I was to do it over again. I would probably try to find a good used body and spend my money on a good lens or 2. You hear all the time it is all about the glass. I didn't think that was serious until I started shooting. It is all about the glass.
Another option would be to buy the kit, get experience with the camera then sell them and upgrade eventually?
:tup: :tup: :tup: Great Advise quad! :tup: :tup: :tup:
Dick
Post by: jyerxa on July 20, 2012, 07:44:30 PM
Your lens. I would be fearful of screwing it up. That is a nice lens!
DOH! What a dunderhead I am! ;) :) My wife made the Camo lens coats for me! :)
Dick
Wow!!! that is pretty snazzy. You got quite a little lady Dick. :tup:
Post by: grundy53 on July 24, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
Post by: grundy53 on July 24, 2012, 03:23:25 PM
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11760020&whse=BC&topnav=&cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-searchpageHorizontalTop-_-SolrSearchToProduct&cm_vc=searchpageHorizontalTop (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11760020&whse=BC&topnav=&cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-searchpageHorizontalTop-_-SolrSearchToProduct&cm_vc=searchpageHorizontalTop)|SolrSearchToProduct
That's what I originally went to look at but then I saw they had the Nikon D3100 on sale for $650
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11622027&search=D3100&topnav=&Mo=0&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=D3100&Ntt=D3100&No=0&Nty=1&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11622027&search=D3100&topnav=&Mo=0&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=D3100&Ntt=D3100&No=0&Nty=1&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial)
and since I'm just getting started and know nothing about cameras I figured I would ask the more experianced folks. Sorry for thread jacking but I figured it was along the same lines...
Post by: Wazukie on July 24, 2012, 03:27:49 PM
Has anyone had any experience with a Nikon D3100? Would it be a decent starting point? Or would I be wasting my money?
The D3100 does its job but if you are looking to buy a new Nikon consumer grade DSLR I would go with the D5100 as it has a much better sensor in it(same as the D7000) and it's High ISO capability is awesome.
Post by: sirfunkeybut on July 24, 2012, 04:45:49 PM