Post by: bearpaw on August 07, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
Vote for as many options as you want.
Proposed Increses Noted in attachment....
Post by: CedarPants on August 07, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
I'd like to know where they got the money for that, and I'd also like to know exactly who all works in that office since it clearly isn't filled with bios who make excursions up north daily to confirm wolf packs.
Also - our fees went up this year, and by my math I lost a week of late rifle for deer in the northeast.
Pay more to play less? Not this guy
Post by: arrowflinger on August 07, 2012, 12:43:13 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on August 07, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Post by: buckfvr on August 07, 2012, 12:53:31 PM
Post by: Huntbear on August 07, 2012, 12:56:46 PM
Let them learn to live on a tight budget like the rest of us... Cut the management, put more enforcement in the field.. make my hunting experience better with less wolves and we will talk about an increase..\
As long as the department is so top heavy, not fighting to save our hunting grounds, giving into the animal huggers, etc... no way in hell I am saying ok to an increase..
Post by: jess on August 07, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
Post by: buckfvr on August 07, 2012, 01:04:16 PM
I voted Reduce the fees...
Let them learn to live on a tight budget like the rest of us... Cut the management, put more enforcement in the field.. make my hunting experience better with less wolves and we will talk about an increase..\
As long as the department is so top heavy, not fighting to save our hunting grounds, giving into the animal huggers, etc... no way in hell I am saying ok to an increase..
I agree, except I dont see the need for more enforcement when they have the guys out actively trying to cite traffic violations and wood cutters , and doing all the multi-tasking...lets let our fish and game officers be just that....like it used to be. Get them out of town and in the woods and by god listen to their input......Let these guys do their jobs.....Bios are too political.....
Post by: CedarPants on August 07, 2012, 01:05:12 PM
Between all my tags, fishing licenses (fresh and saltwater), discovery pass, special permit apps, etc - i paid around $300 and change this year.
I also have 3 boys, and a wife, and we are an outdoor family. I don't subscribe to the mentality of heading to the woods without my wife and kids - we go as a family.
So, in theory - that's $1,500 for my family.
If it gets to expensive, they don't lose my $300 - they lose my $1,500, as we'll just find something else to do or go hunt elsewhere.
Post by: buckfvr on August 07, 2012, 01:08:31 PM
One concept that I don't think WDFW fully takes into consideration ......
Between all my tags, fishing licenses (fresh and saltwater), discovery pass, special permit apps, etc - i paid around $300 and change this year.
I also have 3 boys, and a wife, and we are an outdoor family. I don't subscribe to the mentality of heading to the woods without my wife and kids - we go as a family.
So, in theory - that's $1,500 for my family.
If it gets to expensive, they don't lose my $300 - they lose my $1,500, as we'll just find something else to do or go hunt elsewhere.
Im not so sure thats not a part of the agenda anyway............get as many of us if not all of us to quit hunting in our state....
Post by: firefighter4607 on August 07, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
It sure seems that way.I voted no and lower prices. They keep jacking up prices every year. And it's not like it's a few cents here and there it's a couple dollars or more. They keep sticking it to us and wekeep buying it because when we do voice our opinions it falls on deaf ears. :bash:
Post by: CedarPants on August 07, 2012, 01:21:45 PM
One concept that I don't think WDFW fully takes into consideration ......
Between all my tags, fishing licenses (fresh and saltwater), discovery pass, special permit apps, etc - i paid around $300 and change this year.
I also have 3 boys, and a wife, and we are an outdoor family. I don't subscribe to the mentality of heading to the woods without my wife and kids - we go as a family.
So, in theory - that's $1,500 for my family.
If it gets to expensive, they don't lose my $300 - they lose my $1,500, as we'll just find something else to do or go hunt elsewhere.
Im not so sure thats not a part of the agenda anyway............get as many of us if not all of us to quit hunting in our state....
Part of me thinks so. The other part knows if we all quit hunting, the majority of them would be out of a job. I think its somewhere in the middle. Thin the crowd so the majority can't afford to participate. Then just charge the ones that are left, that will participate no matter what, and arm and a leg.
Post by: huntnphool on August 07, 2012, 01:27:01 PM
"WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
August 6, 2012
Contact: (360) 902-2938
Fish and Wildlife police officers focus
on public safety, not poaching at Seafair
OLYMPIA - During the recent Seafair celebration in Seattle, enforcement officers with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) cited 47 people for "boating under the influence," fined 46 others for boating violations, and responded to four swamped vessels.
One officer also ticketed a participant for possessing an undersized crab caught in saltwater earlier in the day.
Known primarily for enforcing state hunting and fishing laws, WDFW police officers play a key role in other aspects of law enforcement throughout the state, said Mike Cenci, the department’s deputy police chief.
"Our main job at Seafair was to help protect the public’s safety, which is a responsibility we all share," Cenci said. "Drinking too much alcohol and operating a boat is never a good idea, but it’s especially risking when there are that many people and that many boats."
For the sixth straight year, WDFW joined with the Coast Guard and the Seattle and Mercer Island police departments to monitor an estimated crowd of 150,000 people at the three-day event. WDFW sent seven officers and four boats to assist in the joint effort, said Cenci, who also spent a day in a patrol boat.
Several weeks ago, the department also sent officers and patrol boats to assist in law enforcement at the hydroplane races in the Tri-Cities.
"We provide assistance where we can to partner police departments, which also help us with our own cases," he said. "They often don’t have all the boats they need, and we can help with that."
WDFW’s enforcement program includes 138 commissioned officers, plus 16 non-commissioned staff, deployed throughout the state. While most of their efforts are directed toward protecting the state’s natural resources, WDFW officers frequently encounter many of the same situations faced by other police officers - but in a different environment.
"We are certified police officers, not just game wardens," Cenci said. "For that reason, it’s important that we continue to maintain strong partnerships with other police departments around the state."
Post by: Atroxus on August 07, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
Post by: Feanix on August 07, 2012, 03:27:50 PM
Post by: Curly on August 07, 2012, 03:35:43 PM
Post by: winshooter88 on August 11, 2012, 08:39:31 PM
Post by: Special T on August 11, 2012, 08:47:28 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
Hate to burst your bubble guys but this is the price increase spread sheet from 2 years ago that were implemented last year. As far as I can find out there are no new increases on tap so far this year. The department hasn't brought any new proposed increases to the GMAC this year.
I hope my source is mistaken, seems a little too soon for another increase, I do see that it's not dated.
Post by: whackmaster on August 11, 2012, 09:04:04 PM
Post by: blackdog on August 12, 2012, 08:57:09 AM
Post by: mallard79 on August 22, 2012, 10:12:08 PM
Last time I saw someone get a ticket for not displaying their pass was on opening day to a guy who was obviously FISHING.....which theoretically meant he had purchased a license and gotten a permit! Ticket those swimmers whos trash I am hauling off the river and out of the parking lots and lower our fees!
Post by: sebek556 on August 22, 2012, 10:30:08 PM
Post by: KFhunter on August 22, 2012, 11:11:23 PM
"WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
August 21, 2012
Contact: (360) 902-2938
Fish and Wildlife police officers work to
Manage Washington wolf packs.
Kettle Falls – During the last few months WDFW officers have been working around the clock in an effort to get in front of the wolf pack in an area known as the wedge; a triangular area formed by the Columbia river and Kettle river up to the Canadian border.
WDFW officers have removed one sub-adult and plan up to removing 4 more wolves.
WDFW officers ask that the public stay out of the area unless you live nearby and need access to private land. The WDFW agency is proposing a closure to all non-local traffic to make room for government licensed vehicles to travel on the less than paved roadways.
WA DOT officials are contemplating paving the portion of roadway from US 395 past summit lake and on to Pierre lake road to ease the congestion WDFW officials are currently facing. “Our traffic vehicle counts on this section of roadway has increased 850% during the last three months” a US DOT official states. “with this level of traffic it has moved up the list of roads to be paved and placed in “urgent” status meaning if traffic levels are sustained at this level for 3 more months it will be mandatory to pave it. “Less than paved roads (gravel) cannot sustain this kind of traffic – government vehicles or not” according to US DOT traffic engineers.
WDFW
"Our main job at the wedge currently is placing collars on offending wolves" Steve said. WDFW officers utilize the latest in tracking technology and these collars are expensive; upwards of $5,000 for each unit plus the receiving or tracking units and manpower to monitor the locations and vital signs of the wolves wearing these collars. “Our goal is 100% of wolves in the wedge area to be collared with these new collars” according to Steve Ulmer. WDFW officers plan to eventually collar all wolves within Washington.
“It is imperative we know what the wolves are doing and when they are doing it in real time, eventually we would like to have video recording collars so we can see in real time what the wolves see and take appropriate action utilizing drones with collar lock on capabilities” according to Steve. WDFW is proposing a fee increase to all fishing and hunting licenses to cover this cost. “We would need to increase hunting fees by 250%, a necessary increase to keep Washington a premier hunting state” according to Mr. Ulmer.
THIS IS FAKE, IT WAS MENT TO BE SATIRE & HUMOR
quit freakin out :yike:
Post by: bobcat on August 22, 2012, 11:15:57 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 22, 2012, 11:23:13 PM
Post by: fair-chase on August 22, 2012, 11:23:25 PM
Post by: Curly on August 23, 2012, 06:20:44 AM
WDFW needs more money so it can manage the states wolf populations like they are doing in the wedge.
"WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
August 21, 2012
Contact: (360) 902-2938
Fish and Wildlife police officers work to
Manage Washington wolf packs.
Kettle Falls – During the last few months WDFW officers have been working around the clock in an effort to get in front of the wolf pack in an area known as the wedge; a triangular area formed by the Columbia river and Kettle river up to the Canadian border.
WDFW officers have removed one sub-adult and plan up to removing 4 more wolves.
WDFW officers ask that the public stay out of the area unless you live nearby and need access to private land. The WDFW agency is proposing a closure to all non-local traffic to make room for government licensed vehicles to travel on the less than paved roadways.
WA DOT officials are contemplating paving the portion of roadway from US 395 past summit lake and on to Pierre lake road to ease the congestion WDFW officials are currently facing. “Our traffic vehicle counts on this section of roadway has increased 850% during the last three months” a US DOT official states. “with this level of traffic it has moved up the list of roads to be paved and placed in “urgent” status meaning if traffic levels are sustained at this level for 3 more months it will be mandatory to pave it. “Less than paved roads (gravel) cannot sustain this kind of traffic – government vehicles or not” according to US DOT traffic engineers.
WDFW
"Our main job at the wedge currently is placing collars on offending wolves" Steve said. WDFW officers utilize the latest in tracking technology and these collars are expensive; upwards of $5,000 for each unit plus the receiving or tracking units and manpower to monitor the locations and vital signs of the wolves wearing these collars. “Our goal is 100% of wolves in the wedge area to be collared with these new collars” according to Steve Ulmer. WDFW officers plan to eventually collar all wolves within Washington.
“It is imperative we know what the wolves are doing and when they are doing it in real time, eventually we would like to have video recording collars so we can see in real time what the wolves see and take appropriate action utilizing drones with collar lock on capabilities” according to Steve. WDFW is proposing a fee increase to all fishing and hunting licenses to cover this cost. “We would need to increase hunting fees by 250%, a necessary increase to keep Washington a premier hunting state” according to Mr. Ulmer.
This is a joke, right? :dunno:
Post by: MuleyAddict on August 23, 2012, 06:58:52 AM
Post by: jackmaster on August 23, 2012, 07:02:55 AM
Post by: runamuk on August 23, 2012, 07:13:52 AM
WDFW needs more money so it can manage the states wolf populations like they are doing in the wedge.<insert really long list of expletives right here> these stupid <more expletives> are you kidding me we dont get to hunt wolves we dont fish wolves we get threatened with fines and/or jail for looking at them wrong but the hunting and fishing population should pay for monitoring them...oh screw that *censored*...they need a wildlife watchers license so every other non hunting citizen that thinks wolves are brilliant has to pay their fair share to manage their precious wolves. What a bunch of money grubbing low life pond scum pieces of maggot excrement we have running this state..... :bash: :bash: :bash:
"WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
August 21, 2012
Contact: (360) 902-2938
Fish and Wildlife police officers work to
Manage Washington wolf packs.
Kettle Falls – During the last few months WDFW officers have been working around the clock in an effort to get in front of the wolf pack in an area known as the wedge; a triangular area formed by the Columbia river and Kettle river up to the Canadian border.
WDFW officers have removed one sub-adult and plan up to removing 4 more wolves.
WDFW officers ask that the public stay out of the area unless you live nearby and need access to private land. The WDFW agency is proposing a closure to all non-local traffic to make room for government licensed vehicles to travel on the less than paved roadways.
WA DOT officials are contemplating paving the portion of roadway from US 395 past summit lake and on to Pierre lake road to ease the congestion WDFW officials are currently facing. “Our traffic vehicle counts on this section of roadway has increased 850% during the last three months” a US DOT official states. “with this level of traffic it has moved up the list of roads to be paved and placed in “urgent” status meaning if traffic levels are sustained at this level for 3 more months it will be mandatory to pave it. “Less than paved roads (gravel) cannot sustain this kind of traffic – government vehicles or not” according to US DOT traffic engineers.
WDFW
"Our main job at the wedge currently is placing collars on offending wolves" Steve said. WDFW officers utilize the latest in tracking technology and these collars are expensive; upwards of $5,000 for each unit plus the receiving or tracking units and manpower to monitor the locations and vital signs of the wolves wearing these collars. “Our goal is 100% of wolves in the wedge area to be collared with these new collars” according to Steve Ulmer. WDFW officers plan to eventually collar all wolves within Washington.
“It is imperative we know what the wolves are doing and when they are doing it in real time, eventually we would like to have video recording collars so we can see in real time what the wolves see and take appropriate action utilizing drones with collar lock on capabilities” according to Steve. WDFW is proposing a fee increase to all fishing and hunting licenses to cover this cost. “We would need to increase hunting fees by 250%, a necessary increase to keep Washington a premier hunting state” according to Mr. Ulmer.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on August 23, 2012, 07:37:35 AM
Post by: Huntbear on August 23, 2012, 07:39:31 AM
Maybe if they need more wolf money.. they should fire about 3/4 of the staff in Olympia... start at the top and work down.....
Or... just let the hunters deal with the wolves...
WDFW is nothing but a money whore.. been saying it for awhile now.... They will do anything for a dollar or two.. and I do mean anything... even screw the very people they are supposed to represent in this state..
Post by: fireweed on August 23, 2012, 08:55:16 AM
Post by: KFhunter on August 23, 2012, 11:28:27 AM
I didn't figure anyone would take that at face value, it was satire :chuckle:
Post by: Curly on August 23, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
:)
Post by: bearpaw on August 23, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
The poll and this topic does offer many hunters opinions on the subject.
Post by: runamuk on August 23, 2012, 01:09:16 PM
lol
I didn't figure anyone would take that at face value, it was satire :chuckle:
well I didn't see it was from the onion anywhere so figured it was just more stupidity on the governments part since its all run by a bunch of *censored*s anyway....
Post by: KFhunter on August 23, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
The best satire has an element of truth ;)
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on August 24, 2012, 05:05:20 AM
Which also fits the leaf licking, wolf lovers agenda to restrict access to all public lands.....
Although the same folks would probably try to be up there to disrupt the possible killing of their beloved creatures
WA DOT officials are contemplating paving the portion of roadway from US 395 past summit lake and on to Pierre lake road to ease the congestion WDFW officials are currently facing. “Our traffic vehicle counts on this section of roadway has increased 850% during the last three months” a US DOT official states. “with this level of traffic it has moved up the list of roads to be paved and placed in “urgent” status meaning if traffic levels are sustained at this level for 3 more months it will be mandatory to pave it. “Less than paved roads (gravel) cannot sustain this kind of traffic – government vehicles or not” according to US DOT traffic engineers.
WDFW
Are they EFFIN KIDDING?! Is this not a USFS road? 850% of what number?
Post by: Outdoor Guardian on August 24, 2012, 02:10:24 PM
:yeah:
The best satire has an element of truth ;)
We at the Enforcement Program would like to thank you for including the Deputy Chief of patrols desk line number in this bogus news release. No doubt about it, when wolves and men are the discussion item, their will be interesting dialogue. And that piece is ok. It's the approach that bothers me. Regardless of your pointing out that this is satire, that statement seems to have long been ingnored as at least some seem to be taking this as fact. While I am at it, I am unaware of any fee increases being proposed.
Post by: Outdoor Guardian on August 24, 2012, 02:18:51 PM
a new camo style... "Wedge Camo" :chuckle:
Now that is funny!
Post by: Outdoor Guardian on August 24, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
WDFW does receive outside funding for vessel safety work, to include a presence at Seafair where law enforcement does not have the assets that DFW has. WDFW Police's presence in routine vessel safety work, search and rescue, and organized boating events dates back decades. In fact, in 1990, two officers were hired specifically out of vessel registration funds. We have partnerships with other law enforcement organizations, to include the USCG, which also has a presence at the event.
They need more money so the gamies can help Seattle patrol Seafair and the Tri Cities boat races.
"WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
August 6, 2012
Contact: (360) 902-2938
Fish and Wildlife police officers focus
on public safety, not poaching at Seafair
OLYMPIA - During the recent Seafair celebration in Seattle, enforcement officers with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) cited 47 people for "boating under the influence," fined 46 others for boating violations, and responded to four swamped vessels.
One officer also ticketed a participant for possessing an undersized crab caught in saltwater earlier in the day.
Known primarily for enforcing state hunting and fishing laws, WDFW police officers play a key role in other aspects of law enforcement throughout the state, said Mike Cenci, the department’s deputy police chief.
"Our main job at Seafair was to help protect the public’s safety, which is a responsibility we all share," Cenci said. "Drinking too much alcohol and operating a boat is never a good idea, but it’s especially risking when there are that many people and that many boats."
For the sixth straight year, WDFW joined with the Coast Guard and the Seattle and Mercer Island police departments to monitor an estimated crowd of 150,000 people at the three-day event. WDFW sent seven officers and four boats to assist in the joint effort, said Cenci, who also spent a day in a patrol boat.
Several weeks ago, the department also sent officers and patrol boats to assist in law enforcement at the hydroplane races in the Tri-Cities.
"We provide assistance where we can to partner police departments, which also help us with our own cases," he said. "They often don’t have all the boats they need, and we can help with that."
WDFW’s enforcement program includes 138 commissioned officers, plus 16 non-commissioned staff, deployed throughout the state. While most of their efforts are directed toward protecting the state’s natural resources, WDFW officers frequently encounter many of the same situations faced by other police officers - but in a different environment.
"We are certified police officers, not just game wardens," Cenci said. "For that reason, it’s important that we continue to maintain strong partnerships with other police departments around the state."
Post by: Special T on August 24, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
Post by: KFhunter on August 24, 2012, 05:52:56 PM
WDFW needs more money so it can manage the states wolf populations like they are doing in the wedge.
"WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/)
August 21, 2012
Contact: (360) 902-2938
Fish and Wildlife police officers work to
Manage Washington wolf packs.
Kettle Falls – During the last few months WDFW officers have been working around the clock in an effort to get in front of the wolf pack in an area known as the wedge; a triangular area formed by the Columbia river and Kettle river up to the Canadian border.
WDFW officers have removed one sub-adult and plan up to removing 4 more wolves.
WDFW officers ask that the public stay out of the area unless you live nearby and need access to private land. The WDFW agency is proposing a closure to all non-local traffic to make room for government licensed vehicles to travel on the less than paved roadways.
WA DOT officials are contemplating paving the portion of roadway from US 395 past summit lake and on to Pierre lake road to ease the congestion WDFW officials are currently facing. “Our traffic vehicle counts on this section of roadway has increased 850% during the last three months” a US DOT official states. “with this level of traffic it has moved up the list of roads to be paved and placed in “urgent” status meaning if traffic levels are sustained at this level for 3 more months it will be mandatory to pave it. “Less than paved roads (gravel) cannot sustain this kind of traffic – government vehicles or not” according to US DOT traffic engineers.
WDFW
"Our main job at the wedge currently is placing collars on offending wolves" Steve said. WDFW officers utilize the latest in tracking technology and these collars are expensive; upwards of $5,000 for each unit plus the receiving or tracking units and manpower to monitor the locations and vital signs of the wolves wearing these collars. “Our goal is 100% of wolves in the wedge area to be collared with these new collars” according to Steve Ulmer. WDFW officers plan to eventually collar all wolves within Washington.
“It is imperative we know what the wolves are doing and when they are doing it in real time, eventually we would like to have video recording collars so we can see in real time what the wolves see and take appropriate action utilizing drones with collar lock on capabilities” according to Steve. WDFW is proposing a fee increase to all fishing and hunting licenses to cover this cost. “We would need to increase hunting fees by 250%, a necessary increase to keep Washington a premier hunting state” according to Mr. Ulmer.
THIS IS FAKE, IT WAS MENT TO BE SATIRE & HUMOR
quit freakin out :yike:
Ok I put a scrolling disclaimer to this post, I really didn't think anyone would take it serious. I misjudged that.
My apologies to WDFW if this caused them any undo greif or nasty phone calls
Post by: bearpaw on August 24, 2012, 06:18:34 PM
This topic is nothing more than a mistake and a joke!
However, I have been offered a tidy sum for the rights to produce and market "wedge camo". :chuckle:
Look for our new pattern coming soon.... "Provocative Calf" :IBCOOL:
Post by: billythekidrock on August 25, 2012, 06:59:33 AM
volunteering to giving more money to the WDFW as a hunter is like offering to pay a prostitute more if she has a STD. :tup: :twocents:
LOL