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Title: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 07, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gohuntn.com%2Fgohuntn%2F19-year-old-game-law-violator-could-first-face-wyomings-new-lifetime-ban%2F&h=MAQHG5Fhv&enc= (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gohuntn.com%2Fgohuntn%2F19-year-old-game-law-violator-could-first-face-wyomings-new-lifetime-ban%2F&h=MAQHG5Fhv&enc=)
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: jeepasaurusrex on August 07, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
Better link...
http://www.gohuntn.com/gohuntn/19-year-old-game-law-violator-could-first-face-wyomings-new-lifetime-ban/ (http://www.gohuntn.com/gohuntn/19-year-old-game-law-violator-could-first-face-wyomings-new-lifetime-ban/)
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 07, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
wow, is all I can say... :bdid: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: Bofire on August 07, 2012, 05:07:03 PM
 :dunno: Where did a 19 year old learn this???? makes me sick, but he must pay the price!
Carl
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Post by: adamR on August 07, 2012, 05:09:53 PM
GOOD!!! throw away the key, hope washington is watching what other states do with poachers
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Post by: Dhoey07 on August 07, 2012, 05:11:18 PM
Hopefully he'll get what he deserves!
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Post by: firefighter4607 on August 07, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
 :bash: :bash: :bash:

What I don't under stand they say he is going to loose his hunting rights????? BIG DEAL!!!! He wasn't hunting legally in the first place. So they should increase the time in jail and the fine.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: seth30 on August 07, 2012, 05:16:18 PM
Put him in jail, that little boy will be popular :chuckle:
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Post by: WSU on August 07, 2012, 05:19:28 PM
Good.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 07, 2012, 05:19:44 PM
Laws and loosing hunting rights don't and won't ever stop criminals.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: gasman on August 07, 2012, 05:25:44 PM
You think he cares about losing his hunting rights :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: He is poacher.... if they cared, they would not poach to begin with  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:



Hang him by his nuts............ that will teach him a lesson  :tup:
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Post by: buglin4bulls on August 07, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
210 inch!  :bash:
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Post by: windygorge on August 07, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
this is sad.  so young and so dumb, way to many times.  more evidence of not having positive role models in a kids life.
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Post by: scottcrb on August 07, 2012, 06:05:44 PM
makes me kinda sick. that's a long lifetime ahead to not be able to hunt and fish legally .  hopefully he gets what he deserves .
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Post by: Kola16 on August 07, 2012, 06:16:29 PM
Hang him by his nuts............ that will teach him a lesson  :tup:

He is to young. He looks like he is 10
Title: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: furiouzgeorge on August 07, 2012, 06:23:01 PM
The state will get what it deserves when they release him. Another poacher who will go right back to poaching. Like you guys have said, he obviously doesn't care about the law. If the state really cared about reforming criminals they would figure something better to do with him beside putting him in jail and taking away rights he obviously isn't scared to lose. All he is at this point is an example to others. They aren't reforming him so in my opinion eliminate the reason for jail time all together. States need to grow brains.
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 07, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
this is sad.  so young and so dumb, way to many times.  more evidence of not having positive role models in a kids life.


.............young and dumb, but still an adult. His ol' man probably taught him.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: quadrafire on August 07, 2012, 06:38:08 PM
WOW a lifetime ban from hunting legally. Don't think that will be a big obstacle for this young chap. I agree with Bofire, where did he learn this behaviour? I think dollars and Time may be more realistic in these cases. Hunting bans would be rediculous
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: bearpaw on August 07, 2012, 06:41:06 PM
Obviously he has not respected the laws on hunting and he will pay the ultimate price now. He has no excuse for hunting anywhere if he loses his license for lifetime, this will have a big impact in my opinion.

Other than his poaching problem he may not be a menace to society. I did not see where he has faced any other charges. I disagree with taking him out of society, putting him in prison, and making him a ward of the state for all of us to support. Sentence him to mass amounts of public service and keep him productive and accountable for his actions. Throwing him in jail would be too easy and simply cost money.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: quadrafire on August 07, 2012, 08:16:49 PM
Hey Kyle, maybe you would be his Mentor ?
Hypocrite huh? I am not placing a deers life above a humans in any way shape or form. He broke the law (several), and should pay the piper. If you think your mentorship would be a good thing then have at it, but for me I say money talks, and if time is needed so be it.
We still have a high crime rate, because our prison/legal system is pussified. Has no teeth!!  Felons have more rights than the rest of us.

What are your ideas about being creative to solve these problems? I am not in the legal world, but am frustrated by all those that abuse the system (NOT JUST WITH POACHING)
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Post by: quadrafire on August 07, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
The post I just made was in response to one that has obviously just been deleted, Mods or OP I don't know, but it was out there.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 07, 2012, 08:21:44 PM
Now we sit here all lost  :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: windygorge on August 07, 2012, 08:30:54 PM
 :o missed that one
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: muzbuster on August 08, 2012, 08:09:15 AM
As others have said, the only thing that will stop him is to be locked up. I dont think a "liftime ban" will slow him down at all otherwise he would have stopped after the first time being caught.  :twocents: :bash:
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Post by: pianoman9701 on August 08, 2012, 08:24:04 AM
It does say he'll spend time in the state penn. Penn State, state penn, either way he's going to be really popular in the shower. :tup:
Title: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on August 08, 2012, 08:25:01 AM
Well with a lifetime ban and a few months in jail, I believe those will be the last big game animals he shoots illegally.  And probably legally, doesn't seem like there are to many states left for him to hunt. 
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: Mfowl on August 08, 2012, 09:14:37 AM
Sad! Another straight right to the chin of real hunters. Lock him up with some hard up G's and see if his thrill kill spree was worth it. What a POS!
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: woodswalker on August 08, 2012, 09:27:48 AM
Somehow i dont think that a ban on legally taking an animal is going to change his behavior much.  He took 3 illegally...meaning he has no regard for the laws ANYHOW..what is one more law to break going to do?  Some prison time might mean that he is not out and ABLE to poach for a few years...but I'd BET that he goes RIGHT back to it after he gets out.
Title: Re: 19 year old facing serious big game violations ..
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 08, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
Somehow i dont think that a ban on legally taking an animal is going to change his behavior much.  He took 3 illegally...meaning he has no regard for the laws ANYHOW..what is one more law to break going to do?  Some prison time might mean that he is not out and ABLE to poach for a few years...but I'd BET that he goes RIGHT back to it after he gets out.

That's OK. When he's caught doing it again, it will be a firearms charge added to poaching charges with a lot of time involved for a convicted felon. In addition, you can bet there are a few 19 year old young men in MT who will now seriously consider their actions when an out-of-season trophy muley presents an opportunity.

You can't change the sociopaths but you can influence society by strictly enforcing existing laws. I wish we'd be this tough in WA on poaching. We aren't.
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