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Title: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 05:57:21 PM
After multiple days out and not finding any sign, let alone bears, even though my boots are black from all the berry juice on them from all the berries I was stepping in, I think I'm done.  If I see one while hunting for something else, that's fine but, I don't think I want to waste any more gas looking for bears.  Gas is expensive and, with elk right around the corner to go along with the $4/gal gas we're about to swallow from the California refinery fire yesterday, I think I'll waste my money chasing elk rather than bear.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: seth30 on August 07, 2012, 06:02:36 PM
Sorry that your bear trips will be over.  I hope you are able to bag a big elk and deer!
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Well, maybe I'll go one more time.  Damned hunting bug :bash:
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: seth30 on August 07, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Well, maybe I'll go one more time.  Damned hunting bug :bash:
Thats the spirit :tup: 
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: windygorge on August 07, 2012, 06:05:31 PM
shelton?? aren't bear in your back yard.  use your mt bike
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:07:42 PM
shelton?? aren't bear in your back yard.  use your mt bike

I spent a ton of time today literally in my back yard.  Acres of Green Diamond logging land where I have trail cam pics of bears from years past.  Berries everywhere and no sign.  Frustrated.



And no bike :(
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: bobcat on August 07, 2012, 06:09:27 PM
Just park at a gate and walk all day. Don't think of it as bear hunting, but exercise for getting in shape for elk season.

Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: seth30 on August 07, 2012, 06:09:33 PM
shelton?? aren't bear in your back yard.  use your mt bike

I spent a ton of time today literally in my back yard.  Acres of Green Diamond logging land where I have trail cam pics of bears from years past.  Berries everywhere and no sign.  Frustrated.



And no bike :(
why?  Logging, herba spraying, hikers???  I lost my best area this year to logging :yike:
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
shelton?? aren't bear in your back yard.  use your mt bike

I spent a ton of time today literally in my back yard.  Acres of Green Diamond logging land where I have trail cam pics of bears from years past.  Berries everywhere and no sign.  Frustrated.



And no bike :(
why?  Logging, herba spraying, hikers???  I lost my best area this year to logging :yike:

They sprayed July 11th.  Thought it'd be ok since they only sprayed 10' from the road.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
And most of the area has grown over the years and is now over my head.  I can't see in or out of there.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: sled on August 07, 2012, 06:12:11 PM
  I have not had any luck yet either.  I dont hunt far from where d-rock hunts and he has seen many already.  I feel your frustration!  I'm going to keep at it.  I dont need to drive very far to hunt so i dont spend much in gas.  One of these times i will connect on one i just need to keep going.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:16:05 PM
If they sprayed July 11th, should I even bother with that area even though the spray death only looks to be 10' from the edge of the road or should I find somewhere else?
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: saylean on August 07, 2012, 06:17:47 PM
Wait another week or two (or three) for when the black berries come in. Might have a better chance for the final hurrah.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:20:18 PM
There aren't very many "Blackberries" like we have in our back yard but there are a ton of those wild vine berries like you posted in that thread a few days ago.  That and salal berries all over too
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: bobcat on August 07, 2012, 06:22:25 PM
The blackberries are ripe now and have been since the first week of July. I found bear crap full of blackberry seeds about 4 weeks ago.

Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: saylean on August 07, 2012, 06:24:33 PM
Ya, I was referring to the type you have in the back yard. Bear sign seems to peak around end of Aug/mid sept, for me. Last weekend of Sept has been my golden time.

Bobcat, depends where your at I guess. All the ones round me are still green...found fresh bear sign today, looked like black berries, but the hucks and thimbles were all I found in the area. :dunno:
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:26:06 PM
I'll post pics in a minute.  BRB
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on August 07, 2012, 06:29:30 PM
Black berries are still green where I hunt also just cause one area has berries doesn't mean the whole state does.  Keep at it at you'll see one sooner or later and if you don't you'll be ready for elk season.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:33:06 PM
Blackberries like I pick for jam.  It is a bush.
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Those berries are still green everywhere I've been
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The vine berries you talke about.  We call them tangle weed because it tangles around your ankles and trips you.  Not a bush but spreads out at ankle height and acts almost like a ground cover
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Those berries are ripe all around here, including my back yard and the Green Diamond land that was sprayed that is 2 blocks from my house
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Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: bobcat on August 07, 2012, 06:34:49 PM
Yeah, the Himalayans and the Evergreens (invasive species) don't get ripe until middle to late August.

I'm talking about the "real" blackberries. (native)

Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: saylean on August 07, 2012, 06:37:19 PM
Ya, I dont know, bears seem easier for me to find when the bush black berries get in....maybe they are easier to locate...they stay put a bit longer... :dunno:

I'd just give it a week or two, cause by then, you wont be able to stand it anyway! :tup:

Thanks for the pics, good examples. Dont give up....find a hunting buddy and carpool....oh gawd, I sound like a greenie...soon, I will say buy a Volt car. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 06:38:31 PM
If they had a volt pickup, I'd be in line to get one.  I have been screaming for an electric truck for years
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: billythekidrock on August 07, 2012, 06:42:48 PM
Ya, I was referring to the type you have in the back yard. Bear sign seems to peak around end of Aug/mid sept, for me. Last weekend of Sept has been my golden time.

Bobcat, depends where your at I guess. All the ones round me are still green...found fresh bear sign today, looked like black berries, but the hucks and thimbles were all I found in the area. :dunno:

Are you talking Himalayans or the trailing black berries. Most of the areas I hunt on the westside have a gap between the two ripening. Usually the little trailing berries are ripe from early July to early August and then the larger himalayans ripen in late August or September.

I have had the best "blackberry" luck with the little trailing berries. By the time the other blackberries are ripe, so are the huck, blue and cascara.  Then in October the evergreen huck ripen up.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: RadSav on August 07, 2012, 06:46:52 PM
If they had a volt pickup, I'd be in line to get one.  I have been screaming for an electric truck for years

You might get 5 miles on a charge then :tup:  Instead of the 20-25 you get now on a Volt.  What a piece of stollen tax payer money crap!  Better to buy an old toilet seat 90 scooter.  Or a Geo.  Buddy of mine hunts in an old Honda Coupe 65 mpg.  about the size of my backpack, but it gets him where he needs to be to start walking.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: saylean on August 07, 2012, 06:53:16 PM
Ya, I was referring to the type you have in the back yard. Bear sign seems to peak around end of Aug/mid sept, for me. Last weekend of Sept has been my golden time.

Bobcat, depends where your at I guess. All the ones round me are still green...found fresh bear sign today, looked like black berries, but the hucks and thimbles were all I found in the area. :dunno:

Are you talking Himalayans or the trailing black berries. Most of the areas I hunt on the westside have a gap between the two ripening. Usually the little trailing berries are ripe from early July to early August and then the larger himalayans ripen in late August or September.

I have had the best "blackberry" luck with the little trailing berries. By the time the other blackberries are ripe, so are the huck, blue and cascara.  Then in October the evergreen huck ripen up.

Hey Billy,
I guess they would be the Himalayan types, never called them anything other than black berry bushes...the big bushy pain in the arse ones that take over peoples property. The small ground running vine ones I never paid much attention to till bout 3 years ago when I called in a blonde bear out of the woods that were covered in those things. Half the time I wouldnt even bother hunting for bear till the Himalayans (as ya'll call them) would be ripe.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
If they had a volt pickup, I'd be in line to get one.  I have been screaming for an electric truck for years

You might get 5 miles on a charge then :tup:  Instead of the 20-25 you get now on a Volt.  What a piece of stollen tax payer money crap!  Better to buy an old toilet seat 90 scooter.  Or a Geo.  Buddy of mine hunts in an old Honda Coupe 65 mpg.  about the size of my backpack, but it gets him where he needs to be to start walking.

Yea, they'd have to really make a strong battery for a battery pickup
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 07, 2012, 07:29:02 PM
Ya, I was referring to the type you have in the back yard. Bear sign seems to peak around end of Aug/mid sept, for me. Last weekend of Sept has been my golden time.

Bobcat, depends where your at I guess. All the ones round me are still green...found fresh bear sign today, looked like black berries, but the hucks and thimbles were all I found in the area. :dunno:

Are you talking Himalayans or the trailing black berries. Most of the areas I hunt on the westside have a gap between the two ripening. Usually the little trailing berries are ripe from early July to early August and then the larger himalayans ripen in late August or September.

I have had the best "blackberry" luck with the little trailing berries. By the time the other blackberries are ripe, so are the huck, blue and cascara.  Then in October the evergreen huck ripen up.

Hey Billy,
I guess they would be the Himalayan types, never called them anything other than black berry bushes...the big bushy pain in the arse ones that take over peoples property. The small ground running vine ones I never paid much attention to till bout 3 years ago when I called in a blonde bear out of the woods that were covered in those things. Half the time I wouldnt even bother hunting for bear till the Himalayans (as ya'll call them) would be ripe.

We just called them blackberry bushes too.  And like I said, we called the others tangle weed.  Is that stuff worth hunting or just wait for the Hymalayan?
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: AKBowman on August 07, 2012, 09:40:46 PM
The blackberries are ripe now and have been since the first week of July. I found bear crap full of blackberry seeds about 4 weeks ago.

Times two. I took some pics of ripe berries in my area about 7 weeks ago. I couldnt beleive it, LOTS of bear sign. A member on here killed one not far from there Friday.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: bobcat on August 07, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
I also got a trail cam picture of the bears that have been eating the blackberries:

Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: hornhunter1987 on August 07, 2012, 11:46:12 PM
when that black huckle berry stuff ripens up in a couple few more weeks is when i see the most sign in the younger cuts. i think there in the timber  mostly now eating the salal berries. those are ripe and huge around shelton. so is the red huck too though. my bear was  eating the red huckle berrie bushes.
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: billythekidrock on August 08, 2012, 06:00:58 AM
when that black huckle berry stuff ripens up in a couple few more weeks is when i see the most sign in the younger cuts. i think there in the timber  mostly now eating the salal berries. those are ripe and huge around shelton. so is the red huck too though. my bear was  eating the red huckle berrie bushes.

I agree. Especially  it is hot like it has been. Alot of people often confuse salal seeds for bears feeding on blackberries.  The "black huckle berry stuff" you mentioned is Evergreen Huckleberry and it ripens late and stays edible into November.

Here is a link to some good info on Evergreen huck. http://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/cs_vaov2.pdf (http://plants.usda.gov/plantguide/pdf/cs_vaov2.pdf)
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: sirmissalot on August 08, 2012, 03:01:23 PM
Thanks for posting that billy, I've always wondered why the huckleberries here around town are much smaller than those up high. I think the smaller ones are sweeter, and they are literally everywhere around here. The red hucks are perfect right now, along with salal berries. The wild black berries are at the tail end of their season by my house, while the thorny big blackberries are mostly green but I did see some yesterday that get a lot of sunlight and were mostly red with some black ones mixed in. I'm finally getting out for my first real look for some bear sign tonight.

Doublej, I'm not sure but I think your area produces a ton of the evergreen huckleberries, even more than here closer to shelton, they grow like crazy and are easy to find in clear cuts. I will post some pictures from my phone in a few of some outside my window, the berries have a ways to go they are still very green.
Title: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: sirmissalot on August 08, 2012, 03:07:57 PM

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Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: bassquatch on August 08, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
After multiple days out and not finding any sign, let alone bears, even though my boots are black from all the berry juice on them from all the berries I was stepping in, I think I'm done.  If I see one while hunting for something else, that's fine but, I don't think I want to waste any more gas looking for bears.  Gas is expensive and, with elk right around the corner to go along with the $4/gal gas we're about to swallow from the California refinery fire yesterday, I think I'll waste my money chasing elk rather than bear.

I would think you would be wise to stay out of those berries? If that's what and where you want to hunt, get above them somewhere with your favorite pair of bino's and your rifle about 2-3 hours before dark with this heat, keep the wind on your face and watch those berries like a hawk for movement!

It took me 5 years before I even saw a bear during bear season and I missed him! :bash: However, I love the challenge, the learning opportunities and it keeps me in shape for the deer and elk seasons! Keep at it, keep going to your area, it's only a matter of time :tup:
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 08, 2012, 05:41:50 PM
Years ago in a prior life I was laying on a barracks floor at about 4am in the morning at Ft. Benning GA up on sandhill, trying to get a grip on anything to keep from falling off the planet. I was swearing a oath that I would never drink again if the good Lord let me survive the night. In that moment a good friend leaned over the edge of his bunk. Looked my straight in the eyes, all serious as hell and said:

" GOD HATES QUITTERS!"

He passed me down another cold one and that was that. :tup: I've been in some crappy situations and for some reason my mind always takes me back to that moment. :)

Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: billythekidrock on August 08, 2012, 06:02:56 PM
Here is a belly full of Evergreen Huck from an October bear in the CF.

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Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: hornhunter1987 on August 09, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
thanks billy i always wondered what that evergreen huck was called. they just love that stuff
Title: Re: Well, that's enough for me
Post by: DoubleJ on August 09, 2012, 01:28:29 PM
Going out again up near the steel bridge here in about 2 hours.  Taking my oldest son and his friend
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