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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: Humptulips on August 09, 2012, 06:58:41 PM
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Citing "state-sanctioned" animal fighting and violations of the state's animal cruelty law, a lawsuit was filed Wednesday in an effort to stop the wolf hunting and trapping season scheduled to begin this fall in Wisconsin.
The action was filed in Dane County Circuit Court against the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources and Natural Resources Board. At its heart: state rules authorizing the use of dogs to hunt wolves.
"A broad range of Wisconsin citizens oppose the rules established for this season," said Jodi Habush Sinykin, an attorney for HS Law in Milwaukee who is among those representing the plaintiffs. "From hunters to landowners, ecologists to volunteer trackers and community humane societies, there is strong agreement that the season was set up without the restrictions needed to prevent deadly animal fighting."
Plaintiffs include the Wisconsin Federated Humane Societies, Dane County Humane Society, Wisconsin Humane Society, Fox Valley Humane Association, Northwood Alliance, National Wolfwatcher Coalition, Jayne and Michael Belsky and Donna Onstott.
The wolf was removed from protections of the federal Endangered Species Act and returned to state management in January. Wisconsin had 815 to 880 wolves in 213 packs at the end of winter, according to the DNR. The recovery goal was 350 wolves.
The legislature passed and Gov. Scott Walker signed Act 169 in April. The legislation established rules for the planned wolf hunting and trapping season, including a season from Oct. 15 to the end of February; hunting at night; hunting with bait; and hunting with the use of dogs.
That last provision has attracted the most opposition and triggered the lawsuit. Wisconsin is the only state to authorize the use of dogs to hunt wolves.
Several acknowledged wolf experts in Wisconsin, including retired DNR managers Dick Thiel and Randy Jurewicz as well as University of Wisconsin researcher Adrian Treves, filed statements warning against the use of dogs to hunt wolves.
In written testimony, Thiel said wolves would regard dog packs as a threat.
"Attacks will be swift and furious," wrote Thiel, former manager of the Wisconsin wolf program. "Dogs will be seriously injured and die, and wolves will be injured and die as they both fight by slashing out."
David Clausen, National Resources Board chairman, and Kurt Thiede, administrator of the DNR's Land Division, said Wednesday they had not reviewed the suit and refrained from comment.
The prospect of a public wolf harvest in Wisconsin has drawn strong reaction from all corners of Wisconsin culture and citizenry, including farmers who have suffered livestock depredation and American Indian tribes who consider the wolf a clan member.
Although there wasn't uniform agreement on the rules established by the Legislature, many state hunting and conservation organizations supported the concept of a hunting and trapping season to manage the burgeoning population of wolves in Wisconsin.
Supporters included the Wisconsin Bear Hunters Association, which had a leading role in drafting the legislation, as well as the Wisconsin Conservation Congress and the Wisconsin Wildlife Federation.
"We're not surprised a lawsuit was filed," said George Meyer, executive director of the Wisconsin Wildlife Federation and former DNR secretary. "It's interesting that it doesn't challenge the delisting but focuses on a form of hunting."
Lawsuits filed in federal court twice had resulted in returning the wolf to protections of the federal Endangered Species Act in the last decade. As the wolf population increased in Wisconsin and regionally, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had sought to remove those protections.
Meyer said Chapter 29 of Wisconsin Statutes provides protection to hunting, fishing and trapping from lawsuits that claim the activities are "inhumane."
"The language was put there to prevent this type of lawsuit," said Meyer, also a lawyer. "It will be interesting to see how the judge rules on it."
Meyer said a judge could stop the entire season, could rule to prohibit the use of dogs but allow the other aspects of the season to proceed or rule that the lawsuit is without merit and allow the entire season to proceed.
According to Sinykin, the plaintiffs allege that the wolf hunting rules violate state law because they allow cruelty to animals by failing to include reasonable restrictions on the training and use of dogs to hunt wolves. In addition, she said, the plaintiffs believe that the rules violate Act 169's express directive that dogs be used to "track or trail" wolves because the rules don't include reasonable restrictions to prevent dogs from directly encountering wolves.
Sinykin said the action was filed to prevent the state from issuing wolf licenses before September.
The DNR is selling wolf permit applications through the end of August. Nearly 8,000 had been sold through Wednesday morning. The applications cost $10. Hunting and trapping licenses were set by the Legislature at $100 for Wisconsin residents and $500 for non-residents.
The DNR plans to issue licenses by lottery in September. The Natural Resources Board approved the DNR's request for a harvest quota of 201 wolves during the season.
The number of permits available, however, won't be known until American Indian tribes make their declarations. By law, the tribes are entitled to declare 50% of the quota in the ceded territory.
In addition to Sinykin, attorneys Robert Habush of Habush, Habush & Rottier and Carl Sinderbrand of Axley Brynelson are representing the plaintiffs.
The case was assigned at random to judge Peter C. Anderson. A preliminary hearing was set for Aug. 29 in Madison.
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well does not surprise me , but they have a point about using dogs .. Do not think dogs will be a productive way to control wolves since they are dotted all over the internet dead from wolves but it all does come down to those maggots trying to find everyway imaginable way to stop us from hunting ...Will be interresting what comes out of it !
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Personally id love to hunt wolves with dogs, not my dogs but actual breeds meant for wolf hunting. I love hunting any animal with dogs, wish they would stop trying to control people like our state and let them hunt. I hope that they throw this case out....
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so your saying it works on wolves ...? I never heard anyone killing wolves with dogs ...So how many have you killed or someone you know has killed ... Just trying to get some input on it and how productive it is ...I am all for hounds too but all I am saying is I can not see them being to productive unless there are alot of them and then I am sure the wolves will have the upper hand ...
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I live in Wisconsin again and hope I get a permit. Hound hunting is under attack here as always. It's simple and sad really. Old timers that have owned all the land are getting old and selling off sections and that new "land owner" that moves in thinks hounds scare all his deer away.
You can bet that a wolf will run from the dogs! ;) They actually don't seem as smart as the coyotes around here. I'm sure that will change in a hurry when the snow flies though!
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Here is what wolves do to hounds ... just saying !
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Great Danes are used as wolf hunting dogs in Europe.
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BH45 what about a decoy dog like they use for doggin coyotes? you use the dog to lure the wolf into range and Blam! dead wolf. Just because YOU don't know how to do it doesn't mean somebody cant figure out how to with out loosing thier dog. :twocents: I thougth doggin coyotes was crazy until i saw it on tv. :twocents:
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WI wolves aren't like our wolves, and they don't use black and tans to hunt them - they use these things
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dogbreedinfo.com%2Fimages15%2FIrishWolfhoundFrankBrendan.JPG&hash=c3dfcc46e162e8a32bbc474a2a745d63565e1efe)
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BH45 what about a decoy dog like they use for doggin coyotes? you use the dog to lure the wolf into range and Blam! dead wolf. Just because YOU don't know how to do it doesn't mean somebody cant figure out how to with out loosing thier dog. :twocents: I thougth doggin coyotes was crazy until i saw it on tv. :twocents:
:chuckle: :chuckle: I was waiting for someone to take it the wrong way :chuckle: I never said I did not want anyone doing it ...I was waiting for someone to tell me they have done it or how they do it ;)
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Here's a video about what SpecialT is talking about with decoy dogs.
Coyote Hunting in Montana - Montana Doggers DVD Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8faSu0Qog#)
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Wow, this is a shock. :chuckle: I never would have thought that after all the recovery plans and rules were put through, that the wolf lovers would have had a issue with keeping the agreed upon numbers where the commisions thought they should be, boy did I miss that one. :rolleyes:
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That doggers video was awesome!!!! I like how after the yote is dead the dogs attack it!!! :chuckle:
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I am still upset with WDFW making it illegal to use dogs for coyote hunting. In Wisconsin it's the Humane Society, in Washington it's the WDFW.
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Yeah now I recall seeing that video ...sorry ...you know BH45 always wants to see results :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I am still upset with WDFW making it illegal to use dogs for coyote hunting. In Wisconsin it's the Humane Society, in Washington it's the WDFW.
Haha isn't that the truth. So pathetic.