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Title: Toxic beaches
Post by: oldcamper on August 19, 2012, 08:15:08 AM: What's with all the toxic beaches? :dunno: How am I gonna get my clams

What are they toxic from, and who put the toxic material in the water?

What are they doing about it???????

http://ww4.doh.wa.gov/scripts/esrimap.dll?name=bioview&Cmd=Map&Step=1 (http://ww4.doh.wa.gov/scripts/esrimap.dll?name=bioview&Cmd=Map&Step=1)
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: DoubleJ on August 19, 2012, 09:13:42 AM: Is it just me or is DOH site down?
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: oldcamper on August 19, 2012, 09:16:10 AM: I clicked on the link and opened in a new tab and it opened right up. :dunno:
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: DoubleJ on August 19, 2012, 09:17:20 AM: And nobody put toxins in the water and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: DoubleJ on August 19, 2012, 09:18:04 AM: I had to go to the text version. Map wouldn't open for me

http://www4.doh.wa.gov/gis/mogifs/biotoxin.htm (http://www4.doh.wa.gov/gis/mogifs/biotoxin.htm)
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: oldcamper on August 19, 2012, 10:00:58 AM: I am seeing that Biotoxins are different than the pollution problem, It stands out more on the map about the pollution problem.

Pierce County:

32 Public Beaches

14 CLOSED BY MARINE BIOTOXIN ONLY

6 CLOSED DUE TO POLLUTION ONLY

1 CLOSED DUE TO POLLUTION AND MARINE BIOTOXIN

11 HAVE NO HEALTH CLOSURES
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: lokidog on August 19, 2012, 10:11:49 AM: The marine biotoxins are basically red tide, a dinoflagellate that has a paralyzing toxin in it. When the clams/oysters/mussels eat them, they accumulate the toxins in their tissues that are eaten and pass them to the eater. These blooms may be increased by high levels of fertilizer type runoff reaching the water.

The pollutants are usually not industrial type pollutants but E. Coli and other bacteria from leaky shoreline septic systems, and often too many geese that hang out in the parks and along the beaches.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: oldcamper on August 19, 2012, 11:16:46 AM: Yes it does thank you. Sounds like a good excuse to have geese hunting from boats along the shore. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 19, 2012, 12:08:08 PM: Quote from: DoubleJ on August 19, 2012, 09:17:20 AM
And nobody put toxins in the water and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
There are a few that were polluted by industry, but they are localized. Most of the widespread stuff seems to be biological. There are areas where old smelters, mills and plants discharged toxins back in the old days. Most are fenced off or have a bunch of signs. The ones I've heard of are on Hood Canal or on the east side of Kitsap. The eventually plan to clean them up by hauling off the dirt and bringing in clean dirt when they get the money.
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: smdave on August 19, 2012, 12:41:58 PM: Warm weather almost always brings out the toxic algea. I have family that live on the beach in Skagit and this happens every year.
Title: Re: Toxic beaches
Post by: magnanimous_j on August 19, 2012, 12:53:11 PM: Quote from: lokidog on August 19, 2012, 10:11:49 AM
The marine biotoxins are basically red tide, a dinoflagellate that has a paralyzing toxin in it. When the clams/oysters/mussels eat them, they accumulate the toxins in their tissues that are eaten and pass them to the eater. These blooms may be increased by high levels of fertilizer type runoff reaching the water.

The pollutants are usually not industrial type pollutants but E. Coli and other bacteria from leaky shoreline septic systems, and often too many geese that hang out in the parks and along the beaches.

Hope this helps.

:yeah: