Post by: backwoods_boy on August 19, 2008, 04:42:11 PM
prolly going to joes cause its close.
can spend about $80-$100$
do you guys think these would be ok.
http://www.gearbuyer.com/products/barska_optics_10x42_blackhawk_waterproof_binocular.html
Post by: bobcat on August 19, 2008, 04:51:43 PM
You can get them in 8x42's or 10x42's. I'd say if it's your only binocular, you might be better off with the 8x.
Post by: huntnphool on August 19, 2008, 04:54:47 PM
My experience has seen lots of friends do the same thing and end up purchasing several different sets over a 10 year period, only to end up getting a good set at the end, and having blown all that money in the mean time. :twocents:
Post by: snohohunter on August 19, 2008, 05:03:53 PM
I've bought a bunch of stuff from him.
Post by: bobcat on August 19, 2008, 05:16:16 PM
Try this link: http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/vortex.pl?page=vortexdiamondback8x42
Post by: Bean Counter on August 19, 2008, 06:07:30 PM
I bought Nikon Monarch ATBs (8x42) for $250 through some knife distributor on Froogle. If you could forgo xxxx vice (beer, three months cable, etc) to go up to there, you wont regret it. I've had mine for 3 hunting seasons and it will probably be 10+ years before I want to upgrade.
Time and gas are precious so if it were me I'd buy a $20 throwaway pair and take that for this weekend. Then I'd buy the above. Best luck.
Post by: huntnphool on August 19, 2008, 11:10:24 PM
I bought Nikon Monarch ATBs (8x42) for $250 through some knife distributor on Froogle. If you could forgo xxxx vice (beer, three months cable, etc) to go up to there, you wont regret it.
:yeah: Good advice right there.
Post by: MountainWalk on August 20, 2008, 11:47:27 PM
Post by: thinkingman on August 21, 2008, 08:38:26 AM
No experiences with Diamondbacks but Nikon Monarch ATB's are pretty darn good for the price range.
Save your money....$100 'nocs are garbage.
Post by: backwoods_boy on August 21, 2008, 08:50:04 AM
Leupold Olympic 10x50mm
$350.00
The Olympic 10x50mm binoculars are powerful, yet lightweight enough to be your full-time optics.
The slim, ergonomic design of the Olympics fits well in any size hand.
Fully multi-coated lenses ensure maximum brightness, clarity, contrast, and color fidelity.
Phase coated prisms work with the lens system to further enhance the sight picture.
Generous eye relief and twist-up eyecups for comfortable extended viewing, even with eyeglasses.
Armor coated, rugged, waterproof, and covered by the Leupold Limited Lifetime Warranty.
Available in natural, black, or Advantage® Timber™ HD™ camouflage finish.
Post by: GoldTip on August 21, 2008, 03:59:19 PM
Post by: Bofire on September 07, 2008, 09:10:12 AM
Carl
Post by: ICEMAN on September 07, 2008, 09:14:27 AM
Post by: robodad on September 07, 2008, 12:28:21 PM
The Nikon suggestion is very sound advice without costing so much and also by being the very best in optics under $300, you won't go wrong but like I mentioned above look for the largest exit pupil and I suggest the 8x42 over the 10x42 any day.
Good luck !!!
Post by: Ray on September 07, 2008, 12:36:36 PM
Post by: rasbo on September 25, 2008, 06:28:05 PM
Post by: ZRS-8x42 on September 25, 2008, 09:42:26 PM
I am writing this to help explain what to expect when comparing 10x with 8x binoculars. It is applicable to all the binoculars if they belong to the model lines when you put them side by side.
If you are comparing two binoculars from the same model line, the difference between 8x and 10x lies within the eyepiece. They both share exactly the same objective lens groups, roofprism, and internal focusing lens group (in most cases). The magnification power of a binocular is deduced by the ratio of objective focal length to the eyepiece focal length. Given the same objective lens, it is the eyepiece design that defines the magnification. Shorter focal length gives 10x power, while longer focal length provides 8x power.
The first thing you notice is the higher magnification power with 10x, of course. However, 10x binoculars tend to have narrower field of view than 8x power. That’s easy to understand since 10x brings the objects closer to our eyes. I spent a lot of time in the wooded area and found a large FOV is better for me to scan the area. If I am out on the open field, I would prefer 10x to look for distant critters.
Another important factor is exit pupil. If you hold your binoculars one foot from your eye and look through the eyepiece toward a bright light source, you will notice a bright circle in the middle. The diameter of that circle is called exit pupil size. It is determined by the ratio of objective lens diameter over magnification. So, a 10x42 has an exit pupil of 4.2mm and 8x42 will have an exit pupil of 5.3mm. Under bright daylight, our pupils tend to shrink to below 4mm, so either 10x42 and 8x42 will provide enough brightness. But at dawn or dusk, our pupils dilate, the exit pupil size might become a factor in determining the brightness when you look through the binoculars. Many amature astronomers like 7x50 format since it gathers a lot of light with 7mm exit pupil, which matches with a fully dilated eyes at dark.
All the binoculars have certain degree of edge distortion, which is actually helpful to prevent eye fatigue from scanning the field if it is not too excessive. Typically 8x has less distortion than 10x. In addition, 8x tends to perform better when it comes to overall image resolution across the viewing field.
I agree with Ray that both 10x and 8x are excellent all around formats. It really depends what your priority or preference is.
Post by: Intruder on September 30, 2008, 08:35:10 AM
ok so got some nice ones
Leupold Olympic 10x50mm
$350.00
The Olympic 10x50mm binoculars are powerful, yet lightweight enough to be your full-time optics.
The slim, ergonomic design of the Olympics fits well in any size hand.
Fully multi-coated lenses ensure maximum brightness, clarity, contrast, and color fidelity.
Phase coated prisms work with the lens system to further enhance the sight picture.
Generous eye relief and twist-up eyecups for comfortable extended viewing, even with eyeglasses.
Armor coated, rugged, waterproof, and covered by the Leupold Limited Lifetime Warranty.
Available in natural, black, or Advantage® Timber™ HD™ camouflage finish.
If these are the ones I'm thinking of they're pretty nices binos. I was real impressed w/ my buddy's pair. As far as power goes 8 or 10 is where you want to be. Although I use 10 myself there are times I'd prefer 8. To some degree it's a personal prefrence but there are surely some differences. When in doubt I'd probably recommend 8's 55/45 over 10s.
Post by: nw_bowhunter on September 30, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 30, 2008, 09:03:39 AM
Post by: SilkWWU on September 30, 2008, 09:04:16 AM
Post by: rjm5 on September 30, 2008, 09:09:02 AM
Post by: SilkWWU on September 30, 2008, 09:10:03 AM
Trav you're full crap. I have a pair of 10x40 zeiss classics which are nice. For backpack hunting I use 10x32 swaros. Don't skimp on optics save as much as you can and buy the best pair you can afford.
My friend Rob here "RJM5" is a retard. He is probably the LOUDEST hunter I've ever met. Not only that, but he pays to go to "farms" to get his animals. Worthless, and your Zeiss' suck. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
FYI: I went to high school with RJM5, and am on the phone with him right now. He is making me make it CLEAR that the above statement is false....kind of :chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on September 30, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
Post by: Bofire on October 13, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
Carl
Post by: columbiaman on October 21, 2008, 09:55:27 AM
Post by: jake on November 20, 2008, 10:28:27 PM
Post by: wrangler on November 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on November 21, 2008, 01:47:27 PM
Post by: alecvg on November 21, 2008, 09:38:57 PM
ok so got some nice ones
Leupold Olympic 10x50mm
$350.00
The Olympic 10x50mm binoculars are powerful, yet lightweight enough to be your full-time optics.
The slim, ergonomic design of the Olympics fits well in any size hand.
Fully multi-coated lenses ensure maximum brightness, clarity, contrast, and color fidelity.
Phase coated prisms work with the lens system to further enhance the sight picture.
Generous eye relief and twist-up eyecups for comfortable extended viewing, even with eyeglasses.
Armor coated, rugged, waterproof, and covered by the Leupold Limited Lifetime Warranty.
Available in natural, black, or Advantage® Timber™ HD™ camouflage finish.
thats exactly what I am going to get