Post by: johnr060 on August 22, 2012, 11:23:31 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on August 22, 2012, 11:25:52 AM
Post by: johnr060 on August 22, 2012, 11:44:41 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on August 22, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
Post by: dr.derek on August 22, 2012, 04:39:01 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 22, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
The public land "corridors" as they call them, are open, so you can drive into the big block of state land (in the Toutle unit).
Post by: Huntbear on August 22, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
It's closed to all motorized access, according to the message dated August 1st.
The public land "corridors" as they call them, are open, so you can drive into the big block of state land (in the Toutle unit).
Typical Weyco operating procedures. Closing their gates is one way to keep their logging operations safe from idiots during the work week.. because no matter how many signs they put up about active logging going on... some people HAVE to get to that spot on the other side of the operation... It also keeps their equipment from being shot up...
Oh, and they really do not want their timber going up in flames either...
Post by: elkhuntingcouple on August 22, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
I think I could shoot their rig up a little with out feeling to bad about it.
That and the gARBAGE oh my When we were up Toutle area there were certain roads that had just a ton of beer cans and garbage, we picked up some but could of spent a whole day there. Those are some other people I'd like to catch.
Post by: Nimrod on August 24, 2012, 05:36:39 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on August 24, 2012, 06:13:06 AM
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Show me 1 instance where this has happened by other than nature ot a work crew.
As much as I dont like it.I understand why they lock the gates. But this isnt a legit reason.
Post by: MADMAX on August 24, 2012, 06:31:20 AM
Its the fricken methheads and vandalism more than anything
I have talked to my share of loggers up there what they told me was after the second idiot put sand in the second high dollar processors hydraulics they slammed the gates shut everywhere they can.
Also fools would haul old crappy trailers up there and leave them all season while they cooked meth in them.
Post by: johnr060 on August 24, 2012, 07:46:53 AM
Post by: SI Eagle on August 24, 2012, 07:51:48 AM
[Oh, and they really do not want their timber going up in flames either...
Show me 1 instance where this has happened by other than nature ot a work cre-Pw.
As much as I dont like it.I understand why they lock the gates. But this isnt a legit reason.
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Check out the Featherville-Pine Fire in Idaho (Trinity Ridge Fire) that is going on right now. It's burned over 100,000 acres already and it was caused by a human on a ATV. Plenty of fires caused by people but you only asked for one.
Post by: sirmissalot on August 24, 2012, 08:06:30 AM
I'm not concerned wether or not it's closed to vehicles. I'd just like to be able to bike in there opening morning.
I'm with you John. Actually I'd prefer it to be closed to motorized vehicles. INCLUDING quads... I heard one in there last weekend. Ripping around in the Margaret, talk about frustrating
Post by: fireweed on August 24, 2012, 09:05:27 AM
But there is hope. The USFS is trying to get some of it back--at least the High Lakes part.
Post by: iRem on August 24, 2012, 09:53:44 AM
Don't forget Weyco. sold off a huge chunk of the Margaret in the last few years. Could be you were hearing the new owners exploring their exclusive playground--with exclusive access to the Mt. Margaret backcountry--which is still owned by all of us. (You just can't get there.)IMO there should always be access/an easement to public land regardless if most of it was purchased around the public land and the only way to it is through private land!
But there is hope. The USFS is trying to get some of it back--at least the High Lakes part.
Post by: zackmioli on August 24, 2012, 10:14:47 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on August 24, 2012, 06:14:11 PM
Don't forget Weyco. sold off a huge chunk of the Margaret in the last few years. Could be you were hearing the new owners exploring their exclusive playground--with exclusive access to the Mt. Margaret backcountry--which is still owned by all of us. (You just can't get there.)
But there is hope. The USFS is trying to get some of it back--at least the High Lakes part.
I was a long ways from the private land areas your talking about. I'll be scouting the backcountry this weekend.
Post by: Seabeckian on August 24, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
The section of noble fir that was sold off a year ago... how do I find those boundaries? I have yet to contact anyone of help and want to be respectful as possible by staying off private posted land. I have this years Weyerhaeuser map, which shows nothing, and none of the other maps I have show any boundaries either. Any help or suggestions on where to find this information would be appreciated. Thanks.
Post by: kglacken on August 24, 2012, 10:12:02 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 24, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
Fireweed or anyone else that may know the answer;
The section of noble fir that was sold off a year ago... how do I find those boundaries? I have yet to contact anyone of help and want to be respectful as possible by staying off private posted land. I have this years Weyerhaeuser map, which shows nothing, and none of the other maps I have show any boundaries either. Any help or suggestions on where to find this information would be appreciated. Thanks.
Cowlitz County website- GIS map
Post by: Hunter Dug on August 25, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
Post by: bowjunkie on August 28, 2012, 02:32:22 PM
so my question is if the fire danger is to high will they even lock out foot traffic?
Post by: firedog on August 28, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
so my question is if the fire danger is to high will they even lock out foot traffic?
Yes, last season it happened the first weekend and stayed locked up for a week when the rains came in. Having it locked to vehicle traffic is a good thing in my opinion.
Post by: bowjunkie on August 28, 2012, 03:39:54 PM
Post by: dr.derek on August 28, 2012, 04:14:50 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 28, 2012, 04:30:39 PM
i hope the gates are locked, my boots are shinned and ready to give me blisters im just curious if they lock out foot traffic if the fire danger is to high if so i need to work on a back up plan
Yes, if the woods are closed for fire danger, then no access is allowed of any kind.
Post by: fireweed on August 28, 2012, 04:38:35 PM
The "noble Farms" partion you are talking about is posted "no trespassing" at the gates only. I didn't even notice any signs until I went to a gate. The maps I have show it "sold" from about opposite the Castle Lake viewpoint, up to the High lakes (that was previously sold). Go to the Cowlitz Co. assessor website, look up T10 N R4 E sections owned by Noble Farms LLC. Keep in mind, according to state law on timberland the land must be conspicuously posted or the owner must personally communicate to you that it is closed. So.....if you don't see signs, technically, on timberland you are not trespassing. I know, the WDFW says it is all on your shoulders to know exactly who's property you are on and have express permission to be there, but that is not what Wa state law requires.
Post by: bowjunkie on August 28, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
and it is still open. any thoughts and ideas are greatly appriciated thanks
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 28, 2012, 05:21:11 PM
so, if the winston area closes do to fire danger what might be a unit with huntable land not affraid to hike my tail off or ride my mt bike. or do ya'all think they wont close it to foot traffic and im just jumping the gun. i called this morning the 1-800#
and it is still open. any thoughts and ideas are greatly appriciated thanks
You may have to look towards heading out to National Forrest land, DNR land, or private property owner's (farms, etc.) that border timerlands and may have animals traveling back & forth between the two.
Post by: iRem on August 28, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
Post by: medic6 on August 28, 2012, 05:46:11 PM
It was 97-98F with 15mph winds from the east for four days before they closed it. weather looks solid this year.
Post by: johnr060 on August 28, 2012, 06:33:01 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on August 28, 2012, 08:10:34 PM
Post by: grousetracker on August 28, 2012, 08:32:49 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 28, 2012, 08:47:23 PM
Post by: zackmioli on August 28, 2012, 09:12:24 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 29, 2012, 04:37:43 AM
weyco will close the day before the season, you watch!
I say 2 days after it opens, the close to public access on foot
Post by: Seabeckian on August 29, 2012, 07:22:44 AM
Post by: MLBowhunting on August 29, 2012, 07:30:44 AM
Post by: bobcat on August 29, 2012, 08:06:27 AM
The number is in the hunting regulations also.
Post by: bowjunkie on August 29, 2012, 09:16:34 AM
Post by: MLBowhunting on August 29, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
:tup:
Post by: bowhunterty on August 30, 2012, 08:45:21 AM
Post by: AKBowman on August 30, 2012, 01:20:11 PM
if Weyco closes to foot traffic where should i go and still have odds of getting an elk not affraid to put in a hike just spent all my time scouting the winston unit not knowing better my fault thanks any help would be great
DNR in Winston is where I will be if it closes, use the public access corridors to access
Post by: johnr060 on August 30, 2012, 03:13:39 PM
Same here!if Weyco closes to foot traffic where should i go and still have odds of getting an elk not affraid to put in a hike just spent all my time scouting the winston unit not knowing better my fault thanks any help would be great
DNR in Winston is where I will be if it closes, use the public access corridors to access
Post by: fireweed on August 31, 2012, 07:39:06 AM
Post by: funkster on August 31, 2012, 08:06:48 AM
Last season when they closed the woods a few days into the season, Wey.co left a printed note on my rig, it said something to this effect. As of today the land you are parked on is closed. If your vehicle is parked here tomorrow you will be towed.
When the tree farm is closed to all traffic that includes the access corridors.
Post by: johnr060 on August 31, 2012, 03:04:07 PM
Post by: bobcat on August 31, 2012, 03:12:20 PM
Where can i get a DETAILED map of the dnr land?(winston and coweman). Just in case we get shut out. The weather is not looking promising! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dept. of printing in tumwater.
(DNR Public Land Maps)
Post by: johnr060 on August 31, 2012, 11:53:08 PM
Where can i get a DETAILED map of the dnr land?(winston and coweman). Just in case we get shut out. The weather is not looking promising! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dept. of printing in tumwater.
(DNR Public Land Maps)
What are their hours? Are they open on weekends?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 01, 2012, 12:27:19 AM
Where can i get a DETAILED map of the dnr land?(winston and coweman). Just in case we get shut out. The weather is not looking promising! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dept. of printing in tumwater.
(DNR Public Land Maps)
What are their hours? Are they open on weekends?
I ordered a Capital Forrest map through here on-line, had it in the mail box a few days later, a little over $9.00 total.
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/Topics/Maps/Pages/photo_and_map_products_and_services.aspx (http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/Topics/Maps/Pages/photo_and_map_products_and_services.aspx)
Post by: fireweed on September 01, 2012, 08:42:25 AM
PS. Back-forty bull is bugling!
Post by: Basket Rack on September 01, 2012, 10:21:28 AM
Post by: johnr060 on September 01, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
I need one by monday.....Where can i get a DETAILED map of the dnr land?(winston and coweman). Just in case we get shut out. The weather is not looking promising! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dept. of printing in tumwater.
(DNR Public Land Maps)
What are their hours? Are they open on weekends?
I ordered a Capital Forrest map through here on-line, had it in the mail box a few days later, a little over $9.00 total.
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/Topics/Maps/Pages/photo_and_map_products_and_services.aspx (http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/Topics/Maps/Pages/photo_and_map_products_and_services.aspx)
Post by: Mudman on September 01, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 01, 2012, 03:38:20 PM
Where can i get a DETAILED map of the dnr land?(winston and coweman). Just in case we get shut out. The weather is not looking promising! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dept. of printing in tumwater.
(DNR Public Land Maps)
What are their hours? Are they open on weekends?
Here's a map to where they are located. Doesn't list hours, but I assume Monday thru Friday, 8-4:30, or maybe 5:00. You surely won't be able to get a map this weekend.
Try the "Go Hunt" map on the WDFW website. It shows public lands.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 01, 2012, 11:54:48 PM
I need one by monday.....Where can i get a DETAILED map of the dnr land?(winston and coweman). Just in case we get shut out. The weather is not looking promising! :bash: :bash: :bash:
Dept. of printing in tumwater.
(DNR Public Land Maps)
What are their hours? Are they open on weekends?
I ordered a Capital Forrest map through here on-line, had it in the mail box a few days later, a little over $9.00 total.
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/Topics/Maps/Pages/photo_and_map_products_and_services.aspx (http://www.dnr.wa.gov/BusinessPermits/Topics/Maps/Pages/photo_and_map_products_and_services.aspx)
Because of the holiday, Tuesday will be the earlist that you could get in or call to see if they have OTC purchases.
Post by: MatthewHunter98 on September 02, 2012, 10:10:55 PM
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