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Title: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on August 28, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
Here is the scenario:

I waited 9 years for a branch bull tag for archery and I was finally drawn this year!  I also have a cow tag in my pocket.  I have killed three elk in the same unit since I have been hunting it (cow 2005, spike 2007, cow 2009).  I have had shot opportunities at mature bulls every year since 2006 but no tag in my pocket.n :'(  I will be hunting September 7th to the 16th.  I also have the multiseason elk tag.

So my question is:  How many days should I hold out for a bull before I shoot a big fat cow?  I only have 10 days to hunt and I am so very aware how tough bowhunting can be.  I have my answer but I am curious what you guys would do?  My standard for a bull is pretty low given I have never shot one.  My goal is the first decent 5x5 or bigger that I get a shot at.

So what say you?
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Button Nubbs on August 28, 2012, 10:55:53 AM
I hunt bulls thru the last day. After all you've waited 9 years right?
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Maverick on August 28, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
Yeah hold out for a bull the whole time. It'd be your luck that you'd shoot a cow and then the big boy would come out. I'd rather regret passing up a cow at the end of the season than shooting a cow and thinking i might of had a bull. Good luck!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: deadwoodbuck on August 28, 2012, 11:41:03 AM
if meat is your goal...the first legal animal.  if a bull is your desire wait and get the best you can bull in sight then get it down.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: grundy53 on August 28, 2012, 11:43:05 AM
Yeah hold out for a bull the whole time. It'd be your luck that you'd shoot a cow and then the big boy would come out. I'd rather regret passing up a cow at the end of the season than shooting a cow and thinking i might of had a bull. Good luck!

 :yeah:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 28, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
It would depend on what tag you drew for what to hold out for point/score wise imo... I'd leave the cow tag in the truck/camp till your last day out.... 
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Band on August 28, 2012, 11:48:24 AM
See that bull in my avatar?  I held out for him last year when I could have shot a cow or spike.  Since I waited about 1/2 hour into the season to shoot him, passing all other legal animals that I had a shot at (none) I would advise holding out at least that long.  Does that help? :chuckle:

I hope you had the same luck I did.  Go get 'em. ;)
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: 300rum on August 28, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
I try to approach every season as if I won't get anything.  Go to the bitter end. 
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: iRem on August 28, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
It would depend on what tag you drew for what to hold out for point/score wise imo... I'd leave the cow tag in the truck/camp till your last day out....

 :yeah:
Hold out till the last day and then put the tag in your pocket and hunt your heart out! What tag did you get, that might change things?
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dvolmer on August 28, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
You probably will not be getting another big bull tag for many years.  with this said I wouldnt shoot a cow or small bull until 1 minutes left on the last day.  This is your year!  It wont come again for many and maybe never.  you have next year and many more others to shoot cows and small bulls.  I am sure you have went years in the past without any meat so one more wont hurt you.  Go for the wall hanger or nothing!  "Give me Liberty or give me Death"!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: bloodhound on August 28, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
yup it took me 15 years and 13 points to draw, if it isnt 300+ i'm not wasting my time ill keep moving and looking till the last day then ill shoot any legal bull on the last day.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: wall of wood camp on August 28, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
I say hold off on the cow until the last day your bound to run across something with enough antler to satisfy your quest might as well make your first one a big one those tags are not easy to come by.  good luck
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Huntbear on August 28, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
If you can cow call with confidence... you can bring in a branch bull.  It may not be a book bull, but you can get a decent (satellite) bull.   

I would give till the last weekend/day... then drop the first full grown cow I saw.    Elk meat in the freezer beats tag soup any day.... I like eating elk meat.. :chuckle:

Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: rasbo on August 28, 2012, 01:10:26 PM
hold out,Im thinking there is no late hunt season you could take a cow in :dunno:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: jrebel on August 28, 2012, 01:12:57 PM
No way I would shoot a cow until the last day and I love meat in the freezer.  As for how big I agree with your thinking depending on the unit and pressure.  For me anything that is 5x5 or bigger with a bow is a true trophy.  Good Luck and can't wait for the pictures. 
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on August 28, 2012, 01:21:01 PM
Thanks all for the replies.  Please keep them coming!  I can say my thinking is in agreement with most of you.  The tag can produce a good 300"+ bull as I have seen them before.

I can call pretty well but I have a great caller (my dad) that will be in my back pocket until we get it done.  We will be hitting it dark to dusk!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: deleted BGS on August 28, 2012, 01:21:18 PM
hold out forever, drawing a branched tag is not worth shooting a cow. if it is the last minute of the last day then maybe ya
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: cedarriver on August 28, 2012, 01:35:57 PM
 I would hold out. There should be a late season you could shoot a cow or a spike in? Never a sure thing, but these tags are hard to come by.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: buglebuster on August 28, 2012, 08:47:30 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Kola16 on August 28, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
Definitely wait until the last evening hunt  before you shoot a cow :twocents:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 28, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
hold out ....but I would definately get one of Phelps open reed calls ...it seems to drive bulls nutz even when they should not be bugling  :chuckle: :chuckle: :yeah: Seriously ! :twocents:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: h2ofowlr on August 28, 2012, 09:11:35 PM
I hunt for anything legal.  I am in it for the elk meat.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Caseyd on August 28, 2012, 09:36:40 PM
Bull or nothing
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: rebal69972 on August 29, 2012, 12:55:40 AM
Yeah hold out for a bull the whole time. It'd be your luck that you'd shoot a cow and then the big boy would come out. I'd rather regret passing up a cow at the end of the season than shooting a cow and thinking i might of had a bull. Good luck!

 :yeah:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: huntnnw on August 29, 2012, 04:47:21 AM
I rarely get opportunities around here in Sept when bowhunting elk at cows..its always bulls that I get shots at first
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on September 01, 2012, 11:20:50 PM
Okay gents... I am reserving the first 7 days of my 10 day hunt for a bull.  I sure wish I had the first 3 days as well but I have work responsibilities that have me tied down until Thurs evening.  Good luck to all on Tuesday!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Instinct on September 02, 2012, 01:20:26 AM
Id wait for a bull and if i go home empty so be it, then again always late season
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: 268bull on September 02, 2012, 06:40:18 AM
I have a similiar tag down south of you, here in Oregon. I'm allowed a cow on my bull tag if I choose to do so. But I'm planning on hunting bulls till the last afternoon and then if a cow show's, well, I'll see. Yeah, we all have visions of that 5x5, but bull opportunities are pretty chancey here in mid- October. And also, even the biggest of racks make thin soup, so I've taken to mind, the first bull that present's an opportunity, I'm puttin' the lead to him. But I hopein' you get a big one! Good huntin' to ya! :tup: Bull
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Kioti on September 02, 2012, 07:17:51 AM
I would hold out for a few days and see whats moving.  If you want a bull then I would hold out for a bull, but there is nothing like elk steaks on the BBQ.   Cow or bull...now one ever said...thats a nice bull elk steak or a nice cow elk steak. 
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: windygorge on September 02, 2012, 07:23:17 AM
Yeah hold out for a bull the whole time. It'd be your luck that you'd shoot a cow and then the big boy would come out. I'd rather regret passing up a cow at the end of the season than shooting a cow and thinking i might of had a bull. Good luck!

 :yeah:
don't shoot a cow, if you already have a cow tag and a multi season tag in your pocket.  hunt for big bull(whatever that means to you) until last light of last day. :twocents:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: mtman on September 02, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
I would eat my tag If it wasnt a big bull.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: windygorge on September 02, 2012, 07:49:42 AM
I would eat my tag If it wasnt a big bull.

 :yeah:
with all the flavorings on the market, you could easily make it taste like elk.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: krapmit on September 02, 2012, 10:52:40 AM
there's always late season for a cow
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on September 03, 2012, 08:05:32 PM
My dad and cousin are already up there.  They pulled the pics off the trail cam and sent them to me.  Three different 6x6 on the camera.  We put it out Aug 4th.  Now I won't be able to sleep for the next three nights!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Muleyslyr on September 03, 2012, 08:43:06 PM
Hold out! You have an oppurtunity to shoot a cow every year and have been fairly successful doing so...a chance at a big bull is once every 5-10yrs. Its a no brainer. Best feeling I've ever had bowhunting was holding out on a 6 day hunt and shoot a 6x6 on the last hour of the last day. Hold out or go home empty. Good luck!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on September 06, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
I am heading out tonight.  Word on the street is that the action is heating up.  I am going to hold out as long as I can and hope that I get blessed with an opportunity.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: JLS on September 06, 2012, 11:41:29 AM
Good luck.  You can always hunt the late season for a cow in the Ahtanum area.  That said.....

....don't pass up on the first day what you'd shoot on the last.  It's your tag, your priorities.  I didn't hestitate to shoot a cow on my MT tag last year, and wouldn't again.  However, my priority is white packages in the freezer.

Shoot straight.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: jackmaster on September 06, 2012, 12:18:07 PM
Yeah hold out for a bull the whole time. It'd be your luck that you'd shoot a cow and then the big boy would come out. I'd rather regret passing up a cow at the end of the season than shooting a cow and thinking i might of had a bull. Good luck!
:yeah:
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: WSU on September 06, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
I wouldn't shoot a cow at all.  There are tons of late season cow hunts that give you a very good chance at killing cow.  If you just want meat, shoot a cow in the late season.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on September 20, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
I didn't shoot a cow but I wasn't very picky either.  I will tell the story in another thread but here are a couple of pictures.  I shot it on my second day afield, September 8th.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: YoterHunter on September 20, 2012, 01:47:40 PM
Congrats . any bull with a bow is a specal.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 20, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
That's a bull to be proud of. Looks like you put a hole in his heart, too. Nicely done.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: Wyoming08 on September 20, 2012, 02:53:19 PM
That will do just fine!! :tup:  :tup:
Nice job...
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: coachcw on September 20, 2012, 04:36:14 PM
way to go man !
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: steeleywhopper on September 20, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
That should be a very tasty animal right there!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 20, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
 :yeah:
Congrats . any bull with a bow is a specal.
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 20, 2012, 05:41:16 PM
Looks like a great shot. congrats on putting meat in the frezer
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: bullfisher on September 20, 2012, 05:59:35 PM
Way to go!
Title: Re: A good problem to have... What would you do?
Post by: dreamingbig on September 21, 2012, 06:35:21 AM
Looks like you put a hole in his heart, too. Nicely done.

Thanks all for the nice comments.  It was a great hunt and he eats very nicely.  We lost zero meat on this guy and we shot him on a day when it was in the 80s and we were over 7 miles from the truck.  Having a plan before hand certainly helps.

As Pianoman noted, the shot entered just through top of heart and lower lung and exited middle of offside lung.  He was a little uphill from me when I released the arrow and he didn't go more than 50 yards after the shot.
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