Post by: h20hunter on September 14, 2012, 09:02:19 AM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Snoqualmie-man-under-investigation-for-killing-black-bear-169714566.html (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Snoqualmie-man-under-investigation-for-killing-black-bear-169714566.html)
Post by: mfswallace on September 14, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
Post by: Curly on September 14, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
Post by: h20hunter on September 14, 2012, 09:17:20 AM
Post by: robescc on September 14, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
I would like to know the details before anyone judges him. It could have been aggressive.
Post by: mfswallace on September 14, 2012, 11:50:14 AM
I would like to know the details before anyone judges him. It could have been aggressive. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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your all drinking the Koolaid and giving every idiot the benefit of the doubt just to :stirthepot: huh??? When would it ever be OK for someone to fire four shots outside in your neighborhood with your kids sleeping in there beds.... Don't give me the intruder response cause that isn't this and don't say he had no choice when he could have went inside his house and shut the door and called it in. I know there isn't anything in the story to suggest anything was done wrong but come off your innocent school boy stance, he clearly needs some guidence as to firearm safety and ethics lessons :stup:
Post by: predatorpro on September 14, 2012, 12:33:08 PM
Post by: Alchase on September 14, 2012, 12:33:58 PM
Post by: h20hunter on September 14, 2012, 12:39:31 PM
Post by: predatorpro on September 14, 2012, 12:43:49 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on September 14, 2012, 12:58:42 PM
Post by: Curly on September 14, 2012, 01:02:32 PM
Post by: mfswallace on September 14, 2012, 01:12:46 PM
Where are the pics. Didn't happen if there are no pics, right? 8):yeah:
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: pjb3 on September 14, 2012, 02:05:04 PM
I'm 100% sure it is not a 450lb bear either
Post by: D-Rock425 on September 14, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
Post by: saylean on September 14, 2012, 03:25:36 PM
Why are all the bears in the news 400 pounds plus :bash:. I cant even find a nice 250 pounder.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
I hear ya. I read that and was suprised a WDFW officer said that weight....I would really like to see a pic of a bear that big.
Who knows, might have been a problem bear, getting into trash...might have startled him after dark, etc...false charge... :dunno:
or could have been " I want to shoot a bear"....either way....issaquah residents need to realize they are surrounded by bears and should be securing garbage as such.
Post by: Ryan308 on September 14, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 14, 2012, 08:14:29 PM
Post by: robescc on September 14, 2012, 08:17:03 PM
The only thing he did wrong was not using a suppressed rifle :chuckle:
I would like to know the details before anyone judges him. It could have been aggressive. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
your all drinking the Koolaid and giving every idiot the benefit of the doubt just to :stirthepot: huh??? When would it ever be OK for someone to fire four shots outside in your neighborhood with your kids sleeping in there beds.... Don't give me the intruder response cause that isn't this and don't say he had no choice when he could have went inside his house and shut the door and called it in. I know there isn't anything in the story to suggest anything was done wrong but come off your innocent school boy stance, he clearly needs some guidence as to firearm safety and ethics lessons :stup:
Dude, you need to relax. I was making a joke. I am just about done with all the up tight, know-it-alls in this forum. Some of you all need to pull your heads out. It's to the point where I don't even want to post a pic because of all the picture police out there. Gee wiz.
Post by: robescc on September 14, 2012, 08:21:40 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on September 14, 2012, 09:16:29 PM
Post by: mfswallace on September 15, 2012, 07:54:46 AM
c yaThe only thing he did wrong was not using a suppressed rifle :chuckle:
I would like to know the details before anyone judges him. It could have been aggressive. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
your all drinking the Koolaid and giving every idiot the benefit of the doubt just to :stirthepot: huh??? When would it ever be OK for someone to fire four shots outside in your neighborhood with your kids sleeping in there beds.... Don't give me the intruder response cause that isn't this and don't say he had no choice when he could have went inside his house and shut the door and called it in. I know there isn't anything in the story to suggest anything was done wrong but come off your innocent school boy stance, he clearly needs some guidence as to firearm safety and ethics lessons :stup:
Dude, you need to relax. I was making a joke. I am just about done with all the up tight, know-it-alls in this forum. Some of you all need to pull your heads out. It's to the point where I don't even want to post a pic because of all the picture police out there. Gee wiz.
Post by: grizzlyadams on September 15, 2012, 08:10:15 AM
I know that fine officer and I believe him. He's seen enough in years of service to know. I think this guy is trigger happy and just stupid for shooting in Snoqualmie Ridge those house are 6 ft apart at best. Go inside and put your guns for sale here so responsible people can buy them. :twocents:
What does this mean????? :dunno: Let's see....hmmm..because an LEO has been in service for say 20 or 30 years this means he's ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, ABLE TO KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS EVEN WHEN NOT THERE, AND CAN READ PEOPLES MINDS.
What a load of crap!!!
If I saw a 400 lb bear hanging out where my daughter plays I'd kill it too. Of coarse legally with a tag in one hand and a stick and string in the other.
Post by: mfswallace on September 15, 2012, 08:40:55 AM
I know that fine officer and I believe him. He's seen enough in years of service to know. I think this guy is trigger happy and just stupid for shooting in Snoqualmie Ridge those house are 6 ft apart at best. Go inside and put your guns for sale here so responsible people can buy them. :twocents:
What does this mean????? :dunno: Let's see....hmmm..because an LEO has been in service for say 20 or 30 years this means he's ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, ABLE TO KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS EVEN WHEN NOT THERE, AND CAN READ PEOPLE MINDS.
What a load of crap!!!
If I saw a 400 lb bear hanging out where my daughter plays I'd kill it too. Of coarse legally with a tag in one hand and a stick and string in the other.
Ryan308 said he believes this LEO about the bear weight since he knows him personally. He is saying "I"(Ryan308) thinks the guy is trigger happy not that the LEO did or is ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, ABLE TO KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS EVEN WHEN NOT THERE, AND CAN READ PEOPLE MINDS.
Post by: grizzlyadams on September 15, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
What makes a father who is protective of his children and their play area "Trigger Happy"? The fact that he shot at a bear last year and missed for being in the same area where his children play. Hmmm, guess I'm trigger happy then, because I kill every predator that I see around my place to protect my young children, dog, chickens, garden ect. Again, of coarse I do it legally with tags...either predation tags or hunting tags.
I think the LEO needs some help with his judgement and more training if he is calling a protective father trigger happy for shooting a bear where his children play..... :twocents: Besides, who made him the judge labeling him trigger happy and since when does his opinion matter. State the facts and enforce the law is all he is required to do. His opinion of this guys character doesn't mean jack to me and its none of his business. That is the job of a judge and jury if it gets to that point.
Don't like it, then go live somewhere like Russia, China or Iran where the police are free to exact there judgements on the people. We live in a democracy where you are innocent until proven guilty.
Post by: Curly on September 15, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
I know that fine officer and I believe him. He's seen enough in years of service to know. I think this guy is trigger happy and just stupid for shooting in Snoqualmie Ridge those house are 6 ft apart at best. Go inside and put your guns for sale here so responsible people can buy them. :twocents:
What does this mean????? :dunno: Let's see....hmmm..because an LEO has been in service for say 20 or 30 years this means he's ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, ABLE TO KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS EVEN WHEN NOT THERE, AND CAN READ PEOPLE MINDS.
What a load of crap!!!
If I saw a 400 lb bear hanging out where my daughter plays I'd kill it too. Of coarse legally with a tag in one hand and a stick and string in the other.
Well, I doubt it's legal to shoot a bow there either. If he really did shoot the bear because he was protecting his family, then using a firearm probably was not out of line.........
Post by: Hunterman on September 15, 2012, 10:08:35 AM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Ryan308 on September 15, 2012, 07:54:32 PM
Post by: grizzlyadams on September 15, 2012, 09:51:02 PM
I know that fine officer and I believe him. He's seen enough in years of service to know. I think this guy is trigger happy and just stupid for shooting in Snoqualmie Ridge those house are 6 ft apart at best. Go inside and put your guns for sale here so responsible people can buy them. :twocents:
The problem with this statement is that it is highly judgemental.
1. You believe this LEO because you know him and his years of service. (does this mean someone can't be incorrect?)
2. You think the guy is trigger happy and stupid for shooting the bear. (by your own admission you don't know all of the facts so what makes you qualified to judge him in any way?)
3. You say go inside and put your guns for sale so someone responsible can buy them. (again you're judging this mans responsiblity level whithout knowing the whole story. As a Dad, father, husband ect... I would say he acted very responsibly, by killing a 400 lb bear wandering through the neighborhood, but I suppose you would have the bear kill a child first before action is taken.)
Oh and as for shooting archery equipment within the Snoqualmie city limits, if it is illegal which I am sure that it is I guess that would be one of the times breaking a rediculous law would be ok with me to protect my kids.
and yes the word (as you spell it) whoops, would actually be spelled out as ooops. :DOH:
I don't know if the guy was right or wrong in what he did, but I surely wouldn't judge him one way or the other. This topic was supposed to be about would we do it, not throwing the guy under the bus.
Post by: Ryan308 on September 15, 2012, 10:32:44 PM
Post by: Curly on September 16, 2012, 08:38:04 AM
Oh my. Judgemental is right. The question was would you. I would not shoot at night in a housing devlopment. Does anyone know the stats of blackbear attacks for Washington St? I would guess not real high.
I don't think he shot at night.......at least I doubt it. The story says a neighbor was woken by gunshots but I'm assuming it was just early morning after or shortly before sunrise. But I don't know; the story has such little amount of detail, it is hard to judge anything by the story. I just find it unlikely that a guy could put several rounds into a bear at night............
Post by: Ryan308 on September 16, 2012, 06:03:21 PM
Post by: grizzlyadams on September 16, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
"So I personally know the person who shot the bear. He feels horrible for shooting it. He didnt want to. He was scared for his life. He has a permit to carry and he always carries a gun outside because of past run ins with bears. One lunged at his dogs, thats why he fired last year. One lunged at his pregnant wife on their porch last December. They contacted the police, and the home owners assoc in an attempt to get the bears removed so something like this wouldnt happened. He was outside getting the mail. He was outside at night because he works nights. People need to think before they comment. Hes not a punk, or an animal hater. Have a bear come at you and then you can talk. He wishes this never would have happened. So maybe the people who are on here calling names should take a hard look at themselves. You dont see him on here degrading other people."
Can't blame the guy a bit and I would do the same....so good for him. It sounds like inaction by the proper authorities is the real reason behind the shooting.
As for a reply to ryan308. I think you can rest comfortably. Sounds like the shooter was responsible and skilled enough to hit his mark in the dark. As a responsible gun owner protecting his family, it sure sounds to me like he did everything right.
Post by: Curly on September 16, 2012, 07:54:28 PM