Post by: buglin4bulls on September 16, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 16, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on September 16, 2012, 06:00:52 PM
Just curious now that you can shoot sabots how many of you are still shooting lead. My dad has been shooting the no excuses bullets and the question always arises are the sabots truer flying and more deadly? Thanks in advance.
About the only thing that I can say about the use of sabots and copper/lead projectiles vs. big lead is you can shoot a lighter projectiles with greater velocity creating the energy to equal big lead and the shoot flatter. Greater velocity also reduces the time in flight of the projectle.
There is a reason that most modern hunting is done with the newer copper lead, copper, or brass projectiles vs. the lead of yesterday. But none-the-less -> lead will do the job...
Post by: busterbrown on September 16, 2012, 06:06:38 PM
Post by: buglin4bulls on September 16, 2012, 06:12:46 PM
Post by: Gunfire on September 16, 2012, 08:50:31 PM
Post by: Forrestrover.02 on September 16, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
Post by: huntnnw on September 16, 2012, 11:41:50 PM
you gets guys out there who dont spend the time with their muzzy and learn them..they think more powder= more speed! each lead bullet has a max velocity it should reach..u over push a all lead bullet you will get a pancake effect and good bye mr elk
Post by: Gunfire on September 17, 2012, 08:55:16 AM
Post by: Sabotloader on September 17, 2012, 10:27:36 AM
After shooting several sabots yesterday, I cleaned my ML and didn't see any plastic residue.
The new formulation of polymere being used by MMP and Harvester do not leave much plastic behind unless they are shot with such a load that they melt. Plastic fouling is a thing of the past for the most part....
This is the bullet I am shooting... it will pancake if it hits enough steel or basalt rock..
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2F458-305.jpg&hash=ed23af00ee24ea555cd266b7bac7ff6ebbfd8e22)
Post by: Dan-o on September 17, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
After shooting several sabots yesterday, I cleaned my ML and didn't see any plastic residue.
The new formulation of polymere being used by MMP and Harvester do not leave much plastic behind unless they are shot with such a load that they melt. Plastic fouling is a thing of the past for the most part....
This is the bullet I am shooting... it will pancake if it hits enough steel or basalt rock..
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2F458-305.jpg&hash=ed23af00ee24ea555cd266b7bac7ff6ebbfd8e22)
What are those?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
Post by: Sabotloader on September 17, 2012, 11:08:30 AM
This paricular bullet is a .458-305 gr. DOA - Made by Lehigh Defense. They are actually a bullet built for a 45-70 rifle. They are also availble in a ML edition and marketed by Knight as a Bloodline bullet - .458-300 gr. DOA.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FLehigh300DOA.jpg&hash=745411efe692901bdf43e61ca24d9c314dafcd5b)
Here is some information about the bullet.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FRem-300Lehigh.jpg&hash=428d5a448b275a3bdcde02af3d5bccdd685aa0f7)]
I have used the ML version for years hunting elk, but switched to this one this year after reading about the success that the 45-70 guys were having with it dropping Buffalo.
Knight also offers a .458-275 gr. DOA which I use during deer season - it is an excellent all-around bullet...
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 17, 2012, 04:22:49 PM