Hunting Washington Forum

Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: flyguide on September 16, 2012, 06:24:20 PM


Advertise Here
Title: Big Archery Bull
Post by: flyguide on September 16, 2012, 06:24:20 PM
What a hunt.  This was a new one for me, a great tag on my home turf near Ellensburg.  Sounds easy right?  I thought so anyway, but found out otherwise once the season started.  My two best bowhunting buddies and I drew the Observatory tag, we have put in for several years and really wanted both the Goose Prarie or Peaches which I had drawn both in the past and killed bulls and had awesome hunts.  I live in Ellensburg and thought to myself, "man, wouldn't that be cool to hunt elk so close to home for once!"  I already knew the areas fairly well but not so much from an elk standpoint, mostly from shed hunting and trucking around with the family.  I scouted my brains out this summer putting hundreds,  maybe even a thousand tough miles on my rig driving and hiking really quirky little spots especially in the Umtanum unit.  I prowled this site a bit but didn't ask for information, I would have been embarrassed asking for help in my own backyard anyway.

We found some really cool elk country in some places that were very unsuspecting and were pretty amped about being able to hunt the Umtanum unit on this tag which doesn't have a general archery season.  Sounds good in theory right?  It is a tough unit.  There were a lot of bull tag holders on this side and although I wouldn't describe the pressure as "heavy" it was certainly a factor as most of the better zones in this unit are pretty well documented. 

I set up a couple of trail-cams and found some great little herds in some weird places, lots of pictures of cows, spikes, a  bear, a mountain lion, and even a few bucks.  No big bulls but I wasn't worried.  The bulls will find the cows.  Two days before season I set up camp with my 8 year old daughter and we stayed the night in the woods before she went back to school for the year, great daddy-daughter date.  I made her a Mountain House meal that she ate in bed and thought that was pretty awesome, hopefully she will always be that easy to take hunting and please.  We did some late night bugling and we did a road trip in the morning scouting and calling but were unable to locate any bulls.  Opening day arrived, same thing.  Up at 2 am - driving, bugling.... driving, cussing, no responses.   We hiked into a hot spot on opening morning in Umtanum and shared it with another well educated hunter, kudos to him for finding that zone.  We bumped a big herd in the dark just as it was getting light.  That was it.   No action.

That night we again tried another quirky little spot that we knew about and had 5 spikes feed and walk by at 25-60 yards, passed 'em up.  It was easier to do than I thought.  Good thing it was opening day because a few more days in and it would have been a spike soup double for Connor and I.  While we were on these spikes we herd some bugling.  I figured it was hunters, but just to check we walked over the hill and it sounded like World War 3 down there.  Bulls were SCREAMING at each other.  We debated hauling down there and making a play but it was opening day, we could get them in the morning.  We set up in the morning and it turned out these bulls were living in this little patch of hell down there and that is why they were willing to bugle.  You couldn't see 10 feet in places. 

We found a couple of rubs down there that were a little abnormal and saw some tracks that looked like a Moose had been there, at one point i muttered "we are hunting a BIG bull".  I felt a bit like Ahab pursuing Moby Dick at that point.  I wouldn't give up on this bull so we dedicated ourselves to that zone.  For 3 days we hunted this small patch of garbage with minimal action and when the elk would bugle they were not very responsive to our calls (which in the past have been proven to sound VERY sweeeeeet as proved by a garage full of antlers).  Finally we decided after 3 days to quit calling and wait along a saddle that the bulls had been using we nick-named "bull pass".  We got in at about 5:30 pm that night and waited for about an hour without making a sound.  There were two bulls we herd, Connor and I split up about 200 yards apart each of us above a bull.  The bull I was near bugled soft 3 times in the course of about an hour.  At about 7:15 I couldn't stand it anymore, I put a full frontal assault on. 

3 times we had attempted to call this bull in and each time he hung up, every time we backed off and played patiently.  We have a joke in our hunting clan called "let's hurry up and kill 'em"  because every time we try that we flush 353 days of physical and mental preparation down the toilet in about 6 minutes.  I waited until it was almost dark in this nasty timber and moved into his zone, I bugled weak after an estrus cow call right from his bed and he started raking and rolling rocks down the hill.  I don't know if he was doing it with his horns or feet but he was rolling rocks while raking and thrashing but  no more bugling.  He didn't come, the clock was ticking.  I vowed to stay in that patch of timber until I couldn't see a single pin. and it was a long ways from the truck by headlamp and dead fall standards.  Still getting darker.  As he raked I moved up another 50 yards, same drill, this time it got quiet and I heard the "crunch crunch" of a bull moving in!  He had better hurry, getting darker.  He came out, black mane first followed by some massive headgear.  His head went down and I thought, what is he going to feed?  Nope, he started raking the heck out of the ground and thrashing!  I came to full draw, leveled and waited making sure to breath to keep my blood flow healthy because I was going to be drawn for a while.  He raked then made the turn towards me from 30 yards, 25, 20 still chest on, no shot, can't take it, 15 yards, finally at what was later determined to be 11 yards I zapped him while walking as opened up to a quartering on angle.  All hell broke loose he turned ran 30 yards, coughed moved another 5 yards and tipped over just barely out of site!  He went about 40 yards.  When I shot I was in a kneeling position behind an old growth log, from that perspective this bull looked as big as a wooly mammoth.

This is a huge bull, I never thought I would top a 330-340 bull that I shot in 2009 but somehow I did.  God is good.  To me at least, I can't speak for my hunting buddies whom are awesome elk hunters and unfortunately didn't tag out.... yet.  There is still 2 hours of season left.  I got pretty damn lucky.   I knew we were on a big bull but I was expecting a 300-320" type bull.  This bull is enormous.  The body to the 57" main beams. 

Overall, the Observatory is a pretty freakin' tough tag.  The success rate in the past for bulls on this hunt is 7.9% which I checked after we drew.  The Manastash unit gets hunted very hard, the Umtanum doesn't have a lot of elk distributed throughout the unit.  I would probably put in for it again because I live in the valley but compared to the Goose Prairie and Peaches hunts I would put the level of difficulty at a MUCH higher level.  We scored my bull over a cup of whiskey in the garage at 365 gross, 357 and some change net.  It will shrink but I am sure we got it close.  Thanks to anyone that read this entire post, yea it is long. 

I got pretty lucky, my friends that know me though realize that I eat, sleep, and breathe archery elk hunting.  I run ultra-marathons, shoot, scout, and am pretty frickin' ridiculous when it comes to preparation.  I even have a 3-D range at the lodge where I am a fly fishing guide!  They say it was all me, not this time.  I am truly blessed to have killed a bull like this.  I have to say that while it is great to kill a bull like this I am more proud of 9 days in the backcountry with no bull last year but sometimes when opportunity meets preparation you get lucky.  I got very lucky this year. 
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Huntbear on September 16, 2012, 06:32:27 PM
Wow!  Congrats on a pig!!!!!!!! 

Am in Eburg as well.. although I rifle hunt...  You did that tag proud!!!  :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Jason on September 16, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
Awesome!! congrats man!! :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: runamuk on September 16, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
Congrats.......gorgeous bull.....
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: ellensburgpo on September 16, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
Congrats...I don't think there are any "gimme" archery tags...heck of a bull.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 16, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
Awesome story man...congrats...There are some killer holes up there I found when I used to live over there...looks like you did your homework.
 :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: boneaddict on September 16, 2012, 06:38:58 PM
Great write up!   Beautiful trophy!  Thank you for taking the time to share your hunt.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: muleyslayer#1 on September 16, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
Good job :tup: Nice Shot :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 16, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
Now thats a bull of a lifetime congrats!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: adamR on September 16, 2012, 06:42:11 PM
Great story and an awesome bull, congrats!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: DRENALINJUNKIE on September 16, 2012, 06:46:11 PM
Great bull!! Congratulations!  Sounds
Like you put in the time and effort.
Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: X-Force on September 16, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Great story! Great Bull!!!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: boneaddict on September 16, 2012, 06:48:48 PM
AND.......   Thank you for a really cool HUNTING thread. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on September 16, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
Sounds like a hard earned bull, fantastic write-up thanks for giving us the great story.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: remington300mag on September 16, 2012, 06:57:47 PM
Awesome Bull! Jealous as Heck over here! Great story too......Loved reading it!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Wea300mag on September 16, 2012, 07:06:04 PM
Wow, great story and bull. Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: MuleySniper on September 16, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
STUD BULL man congrats!!!
MS
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: elkoholic1 on September 16, 2012, 07:10:15 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: lewy on September 16, 2012, 07:14:05 PM
Nice job man! great bull....
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Devinshoe on September 16, 2012, 07:17:44 PM
Thanks for the story!  What a amazing hunt! sounds like such a fun time. great job!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: olsy on September 16, 2012, 07:18:29 PM
Outstanding write up!  Great job on a great Bull.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: kramer on September 16, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
beautiful bull and well deserved.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Backstraps on September 16, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
Congrats on another outstanding hunt Joe!!! I love reading your hunting stories every year! AWESOME BULL!!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: ellensburgpo on September 16, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
What a toad! I have no doubt you earned him.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 16, 2012, 07:50:35 PM
WOW ...WHAT A STUD ... Good job !! Very nice bull  :tup: :tup: :yike: :yeah:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: sled on September 16, 2012, 07:52:12 PM
Awsome!  Huge bull.  Dream come true.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: danderson on September 16, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
Congratulations on a great hunt and story, I know it was a tuff early season with the heat and closures.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: RG on September 16, 2012, 07:56:56 PM
Good job, you did your homework and it paid off!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: SniperDanWA on September 16, 2012, 07:58:06 PM
wonderful bull and excellent write up.  love the bull :drool:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: blacktailer on September 16, 2012, 08:06:30 PM
What a beauty.  Congrats...
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: backcountry55 on September 16, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
nice bull hard work pays off great job!!!!!
Title: Big Archery Bull
Post by: iRem on September 16, 2012, 08:15:08 PM
Great Job, Great Write up!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: oldleclercrd on September 16, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
Huge!  :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: autodink13 on September 16, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
Beautiful bull!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on September 16, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
Nice heavy horned bull!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 16, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
That is a true stud right there! Congrats
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: huntnphool on September 16, 2012, 09:39:35 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Ridgerunner on September 16, 2012, 09:46:42 PM
Great bull
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: hunting4sanity on September 16, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
We all dream of bulls like that, congrats on putting your tag on him.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: pips4bucks on September 16, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
What a stud!  You and the bull!  Congrats on an awesome bull!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: RadSav on September 16, 2012, 10:52:34 PM
Congratulations!  Not sure I have seen a more perfect bull come out of the Observatory area.  From the pics it looks like there is no more than 3" of deductions.  What a fantastic bull :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Maligator on September 16, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
What a beautiful bull! Congrats on the great hunt and nice write up.  ;)
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: wall of wood camp on September 17, 2012, 01:42:46 AM
Nice work that is a great bull.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Camp David on September 17, 2012, 04:17:06 AM
My heart rate kept increasing the closer the story got to the end. Well done!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: coachcw on September 17, 2012, 06:21:27 AM
one hell of a bull nicely done !
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: flyguide on September 17, 2012, 06:40:58 AM
Thanks for all the kind words guys, this was a great hunt and that bull is pretty incredible. I horn hunt this area as well and although I have picked up some great sheds nothing compares to the size of this bull.  I don't think the pics even do it justice.  The frame is really big.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: buck man on September 17, 2012, 07:42:07 AM
Great write up and an awesome bull!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: combs338 on September 17, 2012, 07:43:19 AM
Awesome Bull!!!!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: jason4429 on September 17, 2012, 08:12:03 AM
Great story,I love to read stories like this and to see the pics . It gets me all ready to go.I love to see meat on the packboards.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: cedarriver on September 17, 2012, 08:13:23 AM
 Great bull, and great story. It's nice to read a story that gives credit to the animals, your friends and family and everything that goes into a hunt like this. Congrats.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Labs07 on September 17, 2012, 08:31:07 AM
Great story and great bull!  Thanks for sharing and congrats on a magnificent animal!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: bearhunter99 on September 17, 2012, 08:32:56 AM
Outstanding bull!  Congratulations, sounds like your hard work definitely paid off!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 17, 2012, 08:55:05 AM
Nice bull and congrats!   :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Ridge Roamer on September 17, 2012, 09:12:24 AM
Stories & pics like this that make this site great!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Elkpiss on September 17, 2012, 10:34:36 AM
I was wondering about you flyguide, haven't heard you on h :tup:ere in awhile and imo ur one of the legit guys on here... fffffn bad ass bull brother... donkey.. beauty.. :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: quadrafire on September 17, 2012, 10:46:33 AM
My heart rate kept increasing the closer the story got to the end. Well done!
:yeah:
I was holding my breath. Awsome story, Great Bull
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: FSTaxidermy on September 17, 2012, 10:58:54 AM
Awesome bull and hunt, congrats  :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: BuckHunter23 on September 17, 2012, 11:24:44 AM
Awesome bull!!!  I know we all love pictures, but when someone takes the time to write a great story to go along with it, it makes the pictures that much better.  Congrats  :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: doyourtime89 on September 17, 2012, 11:38:32 AM
Congrats.......Awesome bull!!!   :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: TheHunt on September 17, 2012, 12:02:15 PM
Congrats on your great bull.  That is definately a good one for this state.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: MADMAX on September 17, 2012, 12:18:36 PM
Congrats on your great bull.  That is definately a good one for this state.

most definetely congrats
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 17, 2012, 02:10:41 PM
That is a excellent bull... Great job.. I am waiting to hear from another member who has that tag as well.. Hope his story is as good as yours..
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Austrian Hunter on September 17, 2012, 02:20:20 PM
 :yike: :yike: :yike: Congrats!! We deserved trophy and thank you for sharing!! 
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: SuperDave on September 17, 2012, 06:53:31 PM
One helluva bull!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: tgray on September 17, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
Nice work and a great story. I had a muzzle loader tag also for the same unit in 2010 and even with all the ups and downs it was the most exciting hunt I have ever been on and on the 7th day of the hunt it ended with a 46 yard shot on a beautiful 7×7 366 2/8" bull. When I figure out how I will post pictures.  Great job.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on September 18, 2012, 09:29:40 AM
That pack looks pretty heavy!  NICE WORK!!!! 
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: stpeterhunter53 on September 18, 2012, 11:19:08 AM
i am the guy that stop by your camp to look at  that big bull i new it go 360 way to go i have not seen to much yet but still looking (in peach ridge unit for muzz.) (go huskies)
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Wyoming08 on September 18, 2012, 11:44:12 AM
 :tup: :drool: :drool: :yike:
Great Story and what an amazing Bull!!! Congratulations on a great well earned successful Hunt!
 :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: flyguide on September 18, 2012, 07:15:09 PM
i am the guy that stop by your camp to look at  that big bull i new it go 360 way to go i have not seen to much yet but still looking (in peach ridge unit for muzz.) (go huskies)

Ha!  You did say it would go 360" + and I didn't think so, I was having a hard time getting 355 out of it at best but when I got home and looked at my other horns it grew tremendously.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: motcha on September 19, 2012, 04:50:24 PM
Flyguide... Is this you?  I received this in a text from a friend of a friend that knew a buddy that got a big bull... LOL

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff307%2Fbspencersp785%2FIMG958922elk_zpsf06f0032.jpg&hash=1b7501be2da0578b326da6d57236cfefb9b1c68b)
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: Gunfire on September 19, 2012, 05:40:47 PM
*censored*, that's the one I was going to shoot.

Congrats!  Awesome bull.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: flyguide on September 21, 2012, 06:49:53 AM
Flyguide... Is this you?  I received this in a text from a friend of a friend that knew a buddy that got a big bull... LOL

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff307%2Fbspencersp785%2FIMG958922elk_zpsf06f0032.jpg&hash=1b7501be2da0578b326da6d57236cfefb9b1c68b)

No but that is an INCREDIBLE  Bull!  Wow, the top end on that bull is stellar.  I would love to know more about that bull. Track it down.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: ribka on September 21, 2012, 07:09:23 AM
That is tough unit for archery. Plus the dry weather and heat. I saw a few decent bulls and a monster earlier in July then they disappeared by end of August.


 Great write and congrats
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: bowsandhose on September 21, 2012, 07:49:12 AM
great bull  :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: packwoodcoug on September 21, 2012, 10:24:30 AM
AWESOME!!!  You are begining to reach legendary status!  I was at my cabin in Packwood when some good friends visiting from Tacoma asked how hunting season was going and I said good but not as good as fly guide...long story short it was your Aunt and Uncle (the mannings).  I thnik we need a reality TV series pitting you against Randy Ulmer.  Amazing Bull great story.
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: zackmioli on September 22, 2012, 11:27:27 AM
 :tup: all around!!
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on September 22, 2012, 11:12:10 PM
Awesome Bull!! WTG :tup:
Title: Re: Big Archery Bull
Post by: go4itlab on September 23, 2012, 08:46:31 PM
Thanks for sharing your story not just of the experience of taking such a great bull but also in the preparation
of the hunt. I think far to many people miss out on some great experiences in the woods because they're not prepared for what it takes. Train n hunt hard. Even within 3 days of having my L5-S1 fused together I spent a month with a walker try to make it around the block. By early archery I was up down trails, crawling thru slash and wind fall in drainages and loving every minute of it. The only part i was not able to participate in was pack boarding meat out that year. 2 yrs latter I am able to put some serious miles in and when meat falls. My buddies allow me the privilege of putting on the pack and humping meat out.
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal