Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on September 18, 2012, 10:12:09 PM
I'm wondering how many points he gets and how that all works?
He may be on to something? :chuckle:
Post by: shoot-em-dead on September 18, 2012, 10:15:55 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 18, 2012, 10:21:25 PM
Apparently it's up to the discretion of the officer. I think you need to be sure to ask for your points.
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on September 18, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
He knew of several guys that kept shooting animals (and bragging) and wouldn't use their tags or would get replacement tags. He just got tired of it I guess.
Post by: Bob33 on September 18, 2012, 10:24:50 PM
I heard they don't need a conviction to receive the bonus point reward.Correct on both counts.
Apparently it's up to the discretion of the officer. I think you need to be sure to ask for your points.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 10:30:12 PM
Post by: Bob33 on September 18, 2012, 10:34:11 PM
6. Citizen reward for reporting violations - bonus points: A person who provides information which contributes substantially to the arrest of another person for illegally hunting or killing big game or an endangered species as defined by Title 77 RCW is eligible to receive ten bonus points toward the special hunting permit drawing for one application category of deer or elk special hunting season permits.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 10:43:03 PM
Post by: Bob33 on September 18, 2012, 10:48:34 PM
I'd find an enforcement officer would is willing to give out points, and then follow up after you've provided information.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 10:51:12 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 18, 2012, 10:51:21 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 10:53:33 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 18, 2012, 10:55:22 PM
I wonder if when a animal is taken "in a not legal manner" like when a person is tresspassing. Is that considered poaching? If so then there sould be some point for me this year :bash:
Well to me there are different "degrees" of trespassing. Did the person know he was trespassing, and did it anyway?
Post by: Bob33 on September 18, 2012, 10:57:06 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 10:57:29 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 18, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
In all of my cases yes. The yellow signs every 50 yards are hard to miss :tup:
There's your ticket to another Skagit bear hunt!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 11:00:12 PM
I have 2 messages to the local guy here to come seal my cat to get it to a taxi. It's going to be a grill fest when he get's here this time :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on September 18, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
They only give them for elk and deer if I remember right bobcat.
I have 2 messages to the local guy here to come seal my cat to get it to a taxi. It's going to be a grill fest when he get's here this time :chuckle:
Oh yeah. I knew that. Just wasn't thinking.
Oh well, I'm sure you could use 10, 20, or 30 extra points for deer or elk. Maybe I'll come down and spend a couple weekends catching trespassers too. I'm in need of some more points too.
Post by: Bob33 on September 18, 2012, 11:04:34 PM
They only give them for elk and deer if I remember right bobcat.Correct.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 11:06:27 PM
I think I am going to have to have the robo deer start up on my place :IBCOOL:
Post by: Bob33 on September 18, 2012, 11:07:51 PM
I tell you what! I spend more time running people out then hunting anymore. It is getting stupid!That's funny. I've joked about going to our local Home Depot and hire some fellows to go poach an animal for me for $50.
I think I am going to have to have the robo deer start up on my place :IBCOOL:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
Post by: winshooter88 on September 18, 2012, 11:26:54 PM
Post by: coachcw on September 19, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on September 19, 2012, 06:58:43 PM
Post by: Bob33 on September 19, 2012, 07:16:58 PM
7(4) If a person unlawfully hunts and kills wildlife, or retrieves hunted wildlife that he or she has killed, on the property of another, then, upon conviction of unlawfully hunting on, or retrieving hunted wildlife from, the property of another, the department shall revoke all hunting licenses and tags and order a suspension of the person's hunting privileges for two years.
Post by: hoytem on September 19, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
It does not say up to ten bonus points. It says ten bonus points.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 19, 2012, 07:53:28 PM
Wasn't hunting on private property without permission just made into a Game Violation where you stand losing your hunting license for 2 year minimum along with fines? I think that started this year if I'm not mistaken. That should lead to Carp getting 70 elk points this year.
I like the way that sounds!!! If that is the case it has to be some points for me!!!
Who wants to take me elk hunting in the blues next year :IBCOOL:
Post by: WonkyWapiti on September 19, 2012, 08:45:42 PM
When I got points they said that points were only given out for big game violations. Trespassing is not a big game violation, even if you were hunting big game at the time. Poaching, shooting and animal out of season, shooting a spike in a three point or better area, things like that are what you can get points for. No there does not have to be a conviction. You can recieve up to ten points, the number of points and whether you get any is up to the investigating officer.
Trespassing is now a game violation as of this summer. I'm having a brain fart and can't remember right now if it was enacted June 1 or July 1.
Post by: olsy on September 19, 2012, 09:14:39 PM
Who wants to take me elk hunting in the blues next year :IBCOOL:
Dibs! :chuckle:
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on September 19, 2012, 09:23:39 PM
When I got points they said that points were only given out for big game violations. Trespassing is not a big game violation, even if you were hunting big game at the time. Poaching, shooting and animal out of season, shooting a spike in a three point or better area, things like that are what you can get points for. No there does not have to be a conviction. You can recieve up to ten points, the number of points and whether you get any is up to the investigating officer.
Trespassing is now a game violation as of this summer. I'm having a brain fart and can't remember right now if it was enacted June 1 or July 1.
I will have to pass this on to some of our landowner friends down near the blues they get several a year it is usually handled by the sheriff I guess they will have to request a game officer.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 19, 2012, 09:24:56 PM
When I got points they said that points were only given out for big game violations. Trespassing is not a big game violation, even if you were hunting big game at the time. Poaching, shooting and animal out of season, shooting a spike in a three point or better area, things like that are what you can get points for. No there does not have to be a conviction. You can recieve up to ten points, the number of points and whether you get any is up to the investigating officer.
Trespassing is now a game violation as of this summer. I'm having a brain fart and can't remember right now if it was enacted June 1 or July 1.
SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could have had about 30 already this year if I would have know that.
Post by: bobcat on September 19, 2012, 09:27:52 PM
When I got points they said that points were only given out for big game violations. Trespassing is not a big game violation, even if you were hunting big game at the time. Poaching, shooting and animal out of season, shooting a spike in a three point or better area, things like that are what you can get points for. No there does not have to be a conviction. You can recieve up to ten points, the number of points and whether you get any is up to the investigating officer.
Trespassing is now a game violation as of this summer. I'm having a brain fart and can't remember right now if it was enacted June 1 or July 1.
I will have to pass this on to some of our landowner friends down near the blues they get several a year it is usually handled by the sheriff I guess they will have to request a game officer.
I think the Sheriff's Office should be able to handle wildlife violations.
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on September 19, 2012, 09:32:25 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 19, 2012, 09:48:54 PM
I meant so they could get points Bobcat I may be wrong, but the sheriff cannot do that I don't think. They had one deer shot on the opener last year that was handled by a sheriff I don't know if it was followed up by a gamie.
OK, I understand. I'm still not sure if a trespassing charge would qualify for points though.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 19, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 19, 2012, 09:54:53 PM
From what they are saying bobcat, it just changed so that trespassing while hunting is now a game violation.
I realize that but I'm still not sure it qualifies.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 19, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
Post by: Bob33 on September 19, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
Post by: get one leakin on September 19, 2012, 10:13:46 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 19, 2012, 10:20:07 PM
Maybe we can hunt the blues together :tup: Well if you switch to archery :chuckle:
You and joe need more of a challenge now days :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 25, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
I had my local warden over today and got to pick his brain hard. He called up one of the head guys and talked to him on the phone with me and asked the questions I had given him. The end result is: That is a good question!!! Both are not sure by the way it reads with the new laws they say it should but they are not positive for sure. I guess we will have to wait until we submit the paper work to see what Olympia says about it. The other thing the big wig said was he was not sure, since I would be a victim in the case, If I could get the points. By the way it reads, any person turning in someone that gets charged, can get the bonus points.
So I got my cat sealed and asked a few more questions and all in all tunred out to be a great visit.
Still wish I knew for sure so I could day dream about my 10 or 50 or 100 bonus points :chuckle:
Post by: Yelm hunter on October 01, 2012, 11:22:29 PM
Post by: deaner on October 02, 2012, 12:05:36 AM
Post by: Deep Forks on October 02, 2012, 03:46:40 AM
this is new to me, you guys are saying points only apply to deer and elk tags? cant use the points for moose?Can't get bonus points for moose, goats or sheep (all OIL tags) no Points!!!
Post by: grousetracker on October 02, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
Post by: Atroxus on October 02, 2012, 01:51:29 PM
dangerous game, just turn them in and forget the points, help the officer in any way , dont give your info. i turned in 2 guys who shot a bull elk out of season, tried to get my points and gave my name and address. i got a summons for court, they got convicted,i got 5pts and about $ 8000 worth the damage to my house and truck, was robbed twice and still recieve death threats. just turn them in anonomously.
That is messed up, definitely something to consider though. :(
Post by: woodswalker on October 02, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
dangerous game, just turn them in and forget the points, help the officer in any way , dont give your info. i turned in 2 guys who shot a bull elk out of season, tried to get my points and gave my name and address. i got a summons for court, they got convicted,i got 5pts and about $ 8000 worth the damage to my house and truck, was robbed twice and still recieve death threats. just turn them in anonomously.
Had something similar happen. Add false reports against me to the mix and its about what i had happen. either anon report or something less savory. :bash:
Post by: bankwalker on October 02, 2012, 08:28:36 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 02, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
dangerous game, just turn them in and forget the points, help the officer in any way , dont give your info. i turned in 2 guys who shot a bull elk out of season, tried to get my points and gave my name and address. i got a summons for court, they got convicted,i got 5pts and about $ 8000 worth the damage to my house and truck, was robbed twice and still recieve death threats. just turn them in anonomously.
Had something similar happen. Add false reports against me to the mix and its about what i had happen. either anon report or something less savory. :bash:
What about giving a work address and phone number instead of your personal one? Or a PO Box or personal mailbox?