Post by: taylorb on September 19, 2012, 04:55:09 PM
-taylor
Post by: Huntbear on September 19, 2012, 05:00:44 PM
I’m starting to get worried that there won’t be much left to hunt this year if these fires keep up… I haven’t been hunting in Washington too long (few years) but I know in other states they have pretty much closed the season when the fire danger was this high – has Washington ever done that?
-taylor
It can happen.... usually the NF will stay open unless there is an active fire inside the borders... state land, private timber land... gone...
Post by: Woodchuck on September 19, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
Post by: golfguy0912 on September 19, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
Post by: sled on September 19, 2012, 05:12:49 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 19, 2012, 05:15:39 PM
they already have several areas shut down, and I dont see some of them being opened up till the snow fliesI wouldn't exactly count on just snow. The FS will probably have to go through the area to make sure it is safe.
In Sep 2011 there was a fire along the Duckabush River on the peninsula. The FS didn't open the area until maybe a month and a half ago (???). They said the fire knocked down trees and moved rocks and made the ground unstable---making the area unsafe for people. They had to have trail crews go in and out and finally give the approval to reopen.
The rangers were saying it was a violation to enter the area (they put up all kinds of signs) that could be punished by $5K and/or 6 months in jail.
Post by: bobcat on September 19, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on September 19, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on September 19, 2012, 06:12:03 PM
Post by: Sawbuck on September 19, 2012, 06:14:04 PM
Post by: Huntbear on September 19, 2012, 06:14:17 PM
The bigger question is what is the damage to the wintering range?
That is the 64,000.00 question right there.... unfortunately... the elk and mule deer will die of starvation while the question gets answered.
Post by: NW-GSP on September 19, 2012, 06:23:15 PM
It is going to be bad news this season and a few to come but realistically this is going to be great for wildlife a few years down the road. Think of how many more meadows are going to be providing food for the deer and elk.
I am no expert but that is just my :twocents:
Post by: NaturalSelection on September 19, 2012, 06:39:49 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on September 19, 2012, 06:42:11 PM
Anybody know what they (WDFW) have done in the past with special permits if an area is closed? Are you just screwed?I sure hope were not screwed. I got a Rimrock any bull tag (modern) in my pocket
Post by: Huntbear on September 19, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
My thoughts about the fires is that they have been prevented for so long that fuel has been building up on the Forrest floor till it has reached a dangerous level, now when a fire does start it is burning hotter and longer then it would have if allot more controlled burns had been done.
It is going to be bad news this season and a few to come but realistically this is going to be great for wildlife a few years down the road. Think of how many more meadows are going to be providing food for the deer and elk.
I am no expert but that is just my :twocents:
Well, I hope you are young enough to be able to see it.. cause it may be 20 years before the game comes back like it is now.. with wolves, tribal hunting, and winter starvation... gonna be a long row to hoe...
Post by: Special T on September 19, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 19, 2012, 08:53:01 PM
It will take 2 or 3 years, yes, but then that country will be full of wildlife.
They ought to make it permit only hunting for deer and elk starting next year, and leave it that way, just increase permits as deer and elk numbers increase. It could turn into some great quality hunting.
Of course the Yakama tribe would need to limit their take as well.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 19, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
Post by: Special T on September 19, 2012, 09:14:50 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 19, 2012, 09:27:11 PM
HDDD that is the case as long as the fire isn't too hot. if the temp gets too hot is kills everything off. most spring burns have the ability to burn the dead wood but not get temps too high because there is still moisture that the fire has to combat. The super dry conditions make it much harder to have a deadwood only fire. If the fires are small in size i would think that it would benefit the animals a lot creating a new meadow in a place where there once was Forrest. :twocents:
The Swakane fire burned mostly brush and Sage, but it cleared out a lot of dead trees that a previous windstorm knocked down. Fortunately, it was early enough in the year to burn up to the green vegetation at the receding snow line and didn't get into the higher elevations. It could have been much worse.
Post by: spin05 on September 20, 2012, 03:16:56 AM
Post by: brokehunter on September 20, 2012, 08:41:44 AM