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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: adictd2hunting on September 25, 2012, 10:03:41 AM

Title: williams peep question.
Post by: adictd2hunting on September 25, 2012, 10:03:41 AM: Do you follow the bullet with the sight like a bow or do i move my sight oppsite direction.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 25, 2012, 10:09:24 AM: If the bullet hits left, move the rear sight to the right. In other words, opposite. Don't know about bow sights--haven't bowhunted in over 40 years. Didn't use sights back then... :chuckle:
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: wraithen on September 25, 2012, 10:11:15 AM: You're moving the rear sight aperture. It's the same with any weapon. You correct with the front sight by moving the sight up to shoot lower and down to move high, exact opposite with the peep. You want to shoot more to the left you move the peep to the left, you want to shoot higher bring the peep up.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 25, 2012, 10:14:23 AM: Move the rear sight in the same direction you want the point of impact to move, if you move it in the opposite direction, you will just get farther away from where you want to be.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: trophyhunt on September 25, 2012, 10:20:03 AM: Probably a stupid question but I have to ask since I have one, on the williams peep there is the piece you look through that screws out, Why does that screw out? Am I supposed to remove that piece after I'm sighted in?
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 25, 2012, 10:26:11 AM: Quote from: trophyhunt on September 25, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
Probably a stupid question but I have to ask since I have one, on the williams peep there is the piece you look through that screws out, Why does that screw out? Am I supposed to remove that piece after I'm sighted in?

It is so you can adjust the aperture size that you look through. There are different sizes available (larger & smaller holes) for different shooting situations.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: trophyhunt on September 25, 2012, 10:28:04 AM: Would the smaller size give you a more accurate location each shot? How do I know what size I have? Thanks
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 25, 2012, 10:45:33 AM: Generally speaking, that is the theory...aim small...miss small. But the smaller the hole you are looking through, the harder it is to find your target, especially in lower light situations.

As far as determining which one you have, probably have to take it into a shop that carries several different ones for your sight and compare. If it is the original one, you may be able to look it up on-line and it may show what size they left the factory with.

I had one years ago on a Remington 740, took it out and just looked through the big, open hole in the sight itself. Worked great for fast sighting/aiming, what would be called a "Ghost Ring" sight now.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: wraithen on September 25, 2012, 11:31:30 AM: I have one on my win 94 30-30 and fired three shots at the range and then heard something bounce off the concrete. I picked up the "screw" and looked for 5 minutes on my gun trying to figure out where this thing went. I looked over the action quite a few times and said screw it, everything looks in order. Went to take aim and thought the ring seemed farther out in my peripheral vision. Stupid screw was the ring. I leave the small one in for the range, take it out when stomping through the woods for 2 reasons. 1. I don't want to lose it and 2. I want to acquire targets a bit faster. They also make a competition insert with a hole so small you think you can't see through it. Ghost rings are great sights as far as irons go, I personally don't think they can be beat after you learn how to use them. Remember you stare at the front sight post and make sure it is centered in the ring, then make sure the front sight post is where you want it on the target. I hit e-type steel silhouettes with that gun at 300m. People laugh when I tell them I have to aim a foot above the head though.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 25, 2012, 10:22:13 PM: The small aperture is for target shooting, and is best for accuracy. But for sighting on a deer in the brush in low light conditions it will be difficult. Thus, a bigger aperture for hunting. Williams makes many different screw-in apertures, and even brass ringed ones to make it easier to see in hunting conditions. The apertures are sized in decimals like a drill index. I tried several sizes on my muzzle loader, and i think I settled on one size down from the biggest one.

I learned the proper way to look through a peep sight from an old shooter years ago. You look through the aperture at the front sight, and put the front sight where you want to hit. Your brain will automatically center the front sight in the aperture. If you consciously try to center the front sight in the peep sight, you will hit in a different spot every time!
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: adictd2hunting on September 25, 2012, 10:33:00 PM: I thought i was suppose to follow the bullet with my peep. That's the samething you do with a bow when looking through the peep in the bow string to see your sight on the bow its self i was just having a hard time figuring it out because i had one Person telling me to sight it in one way and another guy telling me to sight it in a different way. And i got tired of wasting ammo and powder. And i was also wondering about the removalable piece on the peep but that question was answered.

Thanks for all the info.

Anything else that might help me use these sights better. Other then shot more. :)
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on September 25, 2012, 10:50:06 PM: Do not try to correlate rifle shooting with bow shooting. They are entirely different. I know because I used to bow hunt, back in the days when they started making broadheads out of steel instead of flint. :chuckle:
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: Sabotloader on September 26, 2012, 07:45:26 AM: Quote from: adictd2hunting on September 25, 2012, 10:03:41 AM
Do you follow the bullet with the sight like a bow or do i move my sight oppsite direction.

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Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: HoofsandWings on September 26, 2012, 07:04:15 PM: Quote from: Blacktail Sniper on September 25, 2012, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: trophyhunt on September 25, 2012, 10:20:03 AM
Probably a stupid question but I have to ask since I have one, on the williams peep there is the piece you look through that screws out, Why does that screw out? Am I supposed to remove that piece after I'm sighted in?

It is so you can adjust the aperture size that you look through. There are different sizes available (larger & smaller holes) for different shooting situations.
It has been my experience that the arperture should be smaller according to your comfort level.
Personally, I like small ones so I can concentrate on the target. Smaller the arpreture, the easier it is to center.
I have to admit that as I age, the arpeture is blurry, so I have to concentrate more.
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: wildwood on September 26, 2012, 07:10:29 PM: I put a willams on my black diamond didnt like it when it came to putting it on an elk at close range in low light cost me the biggest bull i have had a chance at but to each there own
Title: Re: williams peep question.
Post by: wildwood on September 26, 2012, 07:18:08 PM: O I put the factory sights back on and pulled super tight groups and can set the bead easier