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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: Buckmark on September 25, 2012, 08:29:45 PM

Title: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 25, 2012, 08:29:45 PM: At the end of last year i started out with a "new" to me setup as my old (see really old) bow was no longer usable, all was going well spring and summer, but the last few weeks something has changed and i can't figure it out. My shots are either spot on or flyers, left, right, outside etc, no ryhme or reason were they will go, I missed 2 deer this year (found both arrows) and tonite was a chip shot but something does not feel right. So my season ends or is aleast on hold if i can figure out the problem before the late hunt. I am no bow tuning expert so i am stopping before i wound something. I may run over my bow with the truck tommorow.. >:(
I am not new to bow hunting or shooting, just fricken frustrated and like i said not the best tuner........just venting i guess...
On a good note, i did see 27 deer in 2 days and 4 (if ya count cubs) bears....and 1 grouse..
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: DoubleJ on September 25, 2012, 08:33:33 PM: After how you helped me out, I can only hope you get this worked out. You deserve better than that.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: hughjorgan on September 25, 2012, 08:40:24 PM: Fletching contact maybe?
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: grousetracker on September 25, 2012, 08:57:02 PM: jacket cuff in the way, fletch hitting should leave a black mark on fletch. spray with tinactin.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 25, 2012, 08:58:52 PM: target panic maybe? string stretch? maybe your bow got whacked? came out of time? :dunno:
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: WonkyWapiti on September 25, 2012, 10:05:11 PM: If you are shooting left or right are you putting a death grip on the bow and torquing your shots left or right? I try and hold my bow basically with the meaty part of my palm and gripping it with my thumb and forefinger and just relaxing my other fingers. I know my grip used to be the cause of giving me fits in the past when i was shooting all over the place.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: sakoshooter on September 26, 2012, 08:15:35 PM: Anytime you have any kind of accuracy trouble and everything's tight on the bow and you did not drop it, go back to "Basic Form". That usually where the problems exist.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 08:44:56 PM: Not a fletching hitting issue, i use a biscut, i agree most likely a grip issue with an anchor point issue, i noticed i was not anchored the same as years past but thought i could compensate, i am sure that is the issue, not a target panic situation sad to say i don't get buck fever anymore, wish i did but after 30yrs it does not happen.
I used to be able to call my shot, but now i am questioning were i hit the target.
LB agreed i should get a new bow and sell the current, bad juju...
I am not sure i can get a new new bow and be confident with it in 6wks
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: JLS on September 26, 2012, 08:46:44 PM: I second the target panic thought. Target panic has nothing to do with buck fever. It comes from mentally trying to time the shot.

Is your draw length too long?
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 08:55:49 PM: I actaully think my draw length is too short, just a tiny bit, i used to anchor at my nose and scrape it ,(the end of my nose would get raw after shooting alot) but now i dont touch my nose with the string, when i went into and asked the bow shop to help set me up, they said it was ok.
I used to shoot grouse easy, now i can not hit a 10 inch paper plate at 20 yds with consistancey
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 26, 2012, 08:55:55 PM: Ya shudda came over today and I would of taken you to get it fixed in Colville or Chewelah. Didn't even think about it until this morning.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 08:58:44 PM: No big campmeat, i am thinking after modern i will come over and we can chase bears....gotta find those blondies babies daddy...and put bearmanrics calls to work...
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: JLS on September 26, 2012, 09:01:00 PM: Quote from: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 08:55:49 PM
I actaully think my draw length is too short, just a tiny bit, i used to anchor at my nose and scrape it ,(the end of my nose would get raw after shooting alot) but now i dont touch my nose with the string, when i went into and asked the bow shop to help set me up, they said it was ok.
I used to shoot grouse easy, now i can not hit a 10 inch paper plate at 20 yds with consistancey

Barring something incredibly wrong with the bow, I'm thinking target panic. I'd bet money you're punching the heck out of the release trigger.

Shoot some arrows with your eyes closed and have someone watch you.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 09:13:55 PM: Not discounting what your saying JLS, but its the same release i have had for 6yrs and i pressure it like my favorite rifle trigger, it actually surprises me when it breaks as i float the pin, i did notice, and maybe it was just me but as i was trying to figure it out i was trying to center my peep wth the target and thats not right. It will come together, just frustrating...
I used to take a backup rilfe when i modern hunted, never thought of having a backup bow...
I do appreciate all ideas,and am taking them all in. Thank you..
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: JLS on September 26, 2012, 09:25:16 PM: Have someone else shoot the bow. That will help you isolate it or eliminate it as being the cause of the problem.

Is this inaccuracy with field points and broadheads alike, or just broadheads?
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 09:32:05 PM: Thats the plan, sell it so someone else can shoot it :chuckle:, on a serious note so far just broadheads as that is all i have been shooting for the last 6wks... I will say my fieldpoints and broadheads never hit the same spot on target.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: bloodhound on September 26, 2012, 09:46:11 PM: first thing i always do for people when they arent shooting right and not sure why, is i shoot there bow for them, through paper and check tuning, then i shoot 30 yards and see if im shooting way better then them. that way i know its not the bow and its them. or if i get the same results as them then i start tweaking the bow. so i would recommend if you know a crack shot near by have them fling a few arrows with your bow and see if they have the same or better results. note your looking for a good group doesnt mater where they hit. then take the next step fixing you or the bow. or maybe both.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: JLS on September 26, 2012, 10:05:23 PM: Quote from: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 09:32:05 PM
Thats the plan, sell it so someone else can shoot it :chuckle:, on a serious note so far just broadheads as that is all i have been shooting for the last 6wks... I will say my fieldpoints and broadheads never hit the same spot on target.

Okay, that helps. Sounds like a tuning issue to me. Start with your broadhead/arrow combo and then tune your bow for broadheads.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: RadSav on September 26, 2012, 10:13:29 PM: What bow? How does the string look where it goes through the cable slide? Stock string? Did the problems start at about the same time the weather got hot?
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: RadSav on September 26, 2012, 10:17:49 PM: You didn't let DoubleJ touch it, did you? Never mind. I guess it's only sharp things you have to keep him clear of :chuckle:
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 10:26:04 PM: Rad i will send you a pm (tommorrow), i do think, pretty sure i have seen my arrows propoise towards the target and sometimes are not sticking straight in the target, off to a side slightly?
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: RadSav on September 26, 2012, 10:49:46 PM: Quote from: Buckmark on September 26, 2012, 10:26:04 PM
Rad i will send you a pm (tommorrow), i do think, pretty sure i have seen my arrows propoise towards the target and sometimes are not sticking straight in the target, off to a side slightly?

I will be looking for your PM tomorrow. You can send it down here and I can fix 'er up. Or you can take it to Gary at Riverside, Mt. Vernon. I'm quite confident in his work.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: D-Rock425 on September 27, 2012, 06:20:34 AM: Buckmark i think we need to go shooting one day. I'll watch you shoot and look over your bow.
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: coachcw on September 27, 2012, 06:31:23 AM: If your close to Enumclaw give denton a call at Rock Creek archery he has a new shop near the hospital and does great work . I respect your integrity to stop flinging arrows till you get it straitend out .
Title: Re: Shooting issues end my season early
Post by: DoubleJ on September 27, 2012, 07:06:38 AM: Quote from: RadSav on September 26, 2012, 10:17:49 PM
You didn't let DoubleJ touch it, did you? Never mind. I guess it's only sharp things you have to keep him clear of :chuckle:

>:(

:chuckle: