Post by: Hilltop123 on September 30, 2012, 09:29:04 AM
Now what to feed it? Being that this is my first AR, I'm tempted to go as cheap as possible on ammo, right now Cabelas seems the cheapest, with their Herters brand and they open in Yakima thursday I believe :IBCOOL:. Does anyone have any experiance with this brand? I did read the reviews, it seems either hit or miss. If you think I should be headed a different direction, let me know...........
Post by: Austrian Hunter on September 30, 2012, 09:46:33 AM
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Post by: Hilltop123 on September 30, 2012, 09:47:31 AM
Post by: actionshooter on September 30, 2012, 09:51:52 AM
Post by: Huntbear on September 30, 2012, 09:53:15 AM
If you check around online, you can get some pretty good deals on 1000 round cases.. If you order through Cabelas, it might be cheaper to drive and pick it up than to pay for shipping....
Oh, and if you are not set up to reload... I think you know someone that is... 8)
Post by: Caseyd on September 30, 2012, 09:57:07 AM
Herters is fine for plinking, just stay away from steel case ammo.
Isn't steel in moderation fine?
What's the problem with steel?
Post by: Hilltop123 on September 30, 2012, 09:57:24 AM
Post by: Hilltop123 on September 30, 2012, 09:59:31 AM
Herters are steel cased I believe? :dunno:Herters is fine for plinking, just stay away from steel case ammo.
Isn't steel in moderation fine?
What's the problem with steel?
Post by: Stinkyrat on September 30, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
I had a buddy to raved about how great wolf 5.56 (another steel cased brand from Russia) was in his AR till he started getting stove piping problems to the point that it would not operate in semi-auto. Powder gunked up the gas tube and he got to spend a couple hours scrubbing it out.
Many may disagree, but I have 6 AR's and running brass cased stuff has kept failures to zero.
Stinkyrat
Post by: Huntbear on September 30, 2012, 10:32:43 AM
Herters are steel cased I believe? :dunno:Herters is fine for plinking, just stay away from steel case ammo.
Isn't steel in moderation fine?
What's the problem with steel?
Herters does make some brass cased ammo.. You can buy both at Cabelas, I think..
Post by: cwuwildcat on September 30, 2012, 12:30:52 PM
Post by: actionshooter on September 30, 2012, 02:52:42 PM
yesHerters are steel cased I believe? :dunno:Herters is fine for plinking, just stay away from steel case ammo.
Isn't steel in moderation fine?
What's the problem with steel?
Herters does make some brass cased ammo.. You can buy both at Cabelas, I think..
Post by: actionshooter on September 30, 2012, 02:56:40 PM
The russian steel cased stuff is great for running in AK type rifles with fairly loose tollerances, however I'd avoid it in an AR-15. That stuff runs pretty dirty. For a couple bucks more you can pick up XM193 or M855 Lake city bass cased stuff under the American eagle label, Federal or Olin factory packages. Russian ammo in an AR is like buying a Ferrari and putting Arco unleaded in it. You spent the extra denero to get an AR over an AK, buy good ammo for it and you have that rifle last a lifetime.
I had a buddy to raved about how great wolf 5.56 (another steel cased brand from Russia) was in his AR till he started getting stove piping problems to the point that it would not operate in semi-auto. Powder gunked up the gas tube and he got to spend a couple hours scrubbing it out.
Many may disagree, but I have 6 AR's and running brass cased stuff has kept failures to zero.
Stinkyrat
Its the laquer they apply to the case that will plug up gas tube/gas port. Also if your chamber isn't perfect you will get constant jambs. On a RR that probably won't happen, but cheaper makes is hit and miss.
Its best to pay the extra couple of bucks for brass.
Post by: Doublelunger on September 30, 2012, 03:03:20 PM
Post by: actionshooter on September 30, 2012, 03:32:31 PM
I have a RRA LAR-15 coyote carbine. It doesn't like steel case at all, especially Herters. Every other shot with that stuff I either got a stove pipe or a FTE. I only shoot brass now and have never had a problem.Look at your brass and if you have lines or scarring, you need a chamber reamer, not uncommon.
Post by: FC on September 30, 2012, 11:41:11 PM
If you are really concerned you can go to your local auto-parts store and buy a can of carburetor cleaner to give a squirt down the gas pipe every time you clean the rifle. There is a significant difference in price between steel and brass cased ammo, enough to pay for a new barrel or even a new rifle pretty quickly.
Post by: Jburke on October 01, 2012, 12:17:43 AM
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Post by: dscubame on October 01, 2012, 06:56:32 PM
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 01, 2012, 07:08:09 PM
I put an AR together at Rainier Arms but had it built for more accurate shooting. WOA 18" ultra match barrel in a 1:7 twist with a rifle length gas system, a fancy expensive match bcg and a nice trigger. Last time a shot a 200 yard target the holes would touch using 75 grain black hills stuff. The bulk stuff goes boom, and is alright for plinking at a 100 yards. But I've only ran brass threw the machine.
And one of my feed ramps is scratching the heck out of my brass and bullet but I don't know what to do about it or if it really matters
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 01, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
Post by: dscubame on October 01, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Feed it what it likes.
I put an AR together at Rainier Arms but had it built for more accurate shooting. WOA 18" ultra match barrel in a 1:7 twist with a rifle length gas system, a fancy expensive match bcg and a nice trigger. Last time a shot a 200 yard target the holes would touch using 75 grain black hills stuff. The bulk stuff goes boom, and is alright for plinking at a 100 yards. But I've only ran brass threw the machine.
And one of my feed ramps is scratching the heck out of my brass and bullet but I don't know what to do about it or if it really matters
I like your build and love Rainier Arms good work. Just my two cents.... feed ramps are not even necessary your never be mud deep in crap with your AR....scratch the hell out of them it does not matter and shoot steel for the sake of gettig rounds down range on the cheap. 1:7 is necessary only with tracers but not bad to have no harm done and match grade barrel is sweet. Treat it like a AR it will appreciate the brass and steel without prejudice.