Post by: Jim the Plumber on September 30, 2012, 04:47:27 PM
130 Berger over 42.2 H4350, CCI 450 in a 6.5X47 Lapua netted this 3 shot group at 590 yards.
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Post by: RadSav on September 30, 2012, 05:05:00 PM
Post by: JohnVH on September 30, 2012, 05:05:43 PM
Post by: Salmo on September 30, 2012, 05:15:14 PM
Gotta love a 6.5!!!
Post by: wackum on September 30, 2012, 05:54:07 PM
Post by: rbros on September 30, 2012, 06:58:15 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on September 30, 2012, 07:37:31 PM
I threw these from my slightly modded RCBS thrower. Checked every 10th. My Redding comp seater shines the ogive too much for my taste, so I'm getting a Forester. I think a drop tube is in my future as well. 42.2 fills the 6.5. And this shoots better in once fired cases so far.
Post by: deaner on October 01, 2012, 06:24:06 AM
Post by: FALFire on October 01, 2012, 06:27:54 AM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 01, 2012, 10:56:09 AM
what kind of glass you have on that thing?5.5-22X50 Nightforce NSX.
Post by: JLS on October 01, 2012, 11:03:28 AM
Post by: mazama on October 01, 2012, 12:25:34 PM
Post by: Blacklab on October 01, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
seriously that is (*^&%(*%(*&^%(&*^% shooting ;)
Post by: dscubame on October 01, 2012, 07:15:57 PM
I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist. When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still imprssive groups from other my question is wheher the rifle is under additional aid. Meaning a lead sled, elctronic guidance, or other. What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to guage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?
In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?
I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.
Thanks.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 01, 2012, 07:47:26 PM
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots. I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.
I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist. When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still impressive groups from other my question is whether the rifle is under additional aid. Meaning a lead sled, electronic guidance, or other. What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to gage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?
In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?
I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.
Thanks.
99% of my shooting is prone, Harris bi pod up front and a Redman mini bean bag under the butt stock.
I don't use any 'electronic aids'.
You really must have a solid foundation to start with. This is where classes can help. If you are doing it wrong, you can shoot thousands of rounds a year and still suck.
Start with a rifle from a reputable builder and instructions from a reputable teacher. This lays the great foundation. The rest, then, is up to you.
As an aside, I'd rather get kicked in the nuts than use a lead sled.
Post by: huntnphool on October 01, 2012, 07:49:14 PM
Post by: kentrek on October 01, 2012, 07:55:02 PM
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots. I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.
I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist. When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still imprssive groups from other my question is wheher the rifle is under additional aid. Meaning a lead sled, elctronic guidance, or other. What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to guage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?
In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?
I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.
Thanks.
..its all in the trigger finger..the gun isnt moving regardless of rest
really the only concern in my opinion is whether it was an unintentional group..but looking at the rifle im sure he has repeated this result to some extent..which is pretty freeekn good :tup: congrats
Post by: dscubame on October 01, 2012, 08:15:57 PM
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots. I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.
I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist. When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still impressive groups from other my question is whether the rifle is under additional aid. Meaning a lead sled, electronic guidance, or other. What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to gage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?
In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?
I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.
Thanks.
99% of my shooting is prone, Harris bi pod up front and a Redman mini bean bag under the butt stock.
I don't use any 'electronic aids'.
You really must have a solid foundation to start with. This is where classes can help. If you are doing it wrong, you can shoot thousands of rounds a year and still suck.
Start with a rifle from a reputable builder and instructions from a reputable teacher. This lays the great foundation. The rest, then, is up to you.
As an aside, I'd rather get kicked in the nuts than use a lead sled.
Thanks man. This has been a long time question of mine that you have given me the opportunity to ask and then very generous in your response. Appreciate the information and thank you. Dan.
Post by: Greenhorn on October 01, 2012, 08:35:44 PM
Post by: rbros on October 02, 2012, 09:57:15 AM
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15 shot group from 308 during breakin
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Post by: bearpaw on October 02, 2012, 10:00:52 AM
Post by: Bob33 on October 02, 2012, 10:16:48 AM
Please don't take this wrong; it's a sincere question: is this type of group typical?
I've shot some very good groups at distance, but not every time. If you shot 10 groups with this combination, would there be much deviation in the group sizes?
Thank you.
Post by: rbros on October 02, 2012, 10:22:59 AM
Post by: Atroxus on October 02, 2012, 10:30:23 AM
Post by: thinkingman on October 02, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
Very impressive.Bingo!
Please don't take this wrong; it's a sincere question: is this type of group typical?
I've shot some very good groups at distance, but not every time. If you shot 10 groups with this combination, would there be much deviation in the group sizes?
Thank you.
I can post a picture of my 2" @ 100yds group out of my 45acp 1911 with iron sights.
Just don't ask me to do it again.
Post by: Dan-o on October 02, 2012, 12:49:56 PM
I'm going to say no way is that group a fluke.
On a more positive note, I can shoot even tighter groups than that out to 500 yards. My secret is that at that distance I shoot 1-shoot groups. It keeps them very tight.
Thanks for haring. I wish I had the rifle, but even with the rifle, I couldn't make 3-shot groups like that. Very impressive.
Post by: Fuzzy on October 02, 2012, 03:06:42 PM