Post by: Instinct on September 30, 2012, 08:18:29 PM
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Post by: ouchfoss on September 30, 2012, 11:14:58 PM
If it aint broke........
:yeah:
This is something I had a hard time grasping for most of my years bowhunting. I was always trying to get my bow that much faster and that much more power to the arrow when all it ever did was make me that much less accurate and consistent. I figured that if the bow will go to 70 lbs then I better set it at 70 and try and match my shooting to that weight. I have since tuned my bow down to 57 lbs and I have never been this accurate and consistent in my 16 years of bowhunting. If you can still keep your accuracy the same and still feel comfy going above 65 then go for it but as others have said, your not going to gain a whole lot, your bow is already set up to hit plenty hard.
Post by: RadSav on October 01, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Why go any higher? That unit should hit plenty hard. Doubt you'll notice much difference.
Except in your arm. :o
If you are going after some sort of bison I might suggest more. But that's about the only thing in North America I'd worry about with that set-up. And even then I wouldn't lose much sleep if just shooting the 65#.
You are already pushing the limits of the 340 in regards to spine. And, I expect you are already over 300fps. Success will give you more "Man Cred" than speed or poundage ever will.
Just think about a penny falling out of your pocket. It would be traveling about the same as the speed you would pick up. And remember...better to kill them at 230 than miss 'em at 400 fps. Or in your case it's better to kill them at 307 than miss 'em at 318 fps
Post by: Duffer on October 01, 2012, 12:48:00 AM
If it aint broke........
:yeah:
This is something I had a hard time grasping for most of my years bowhunting. I was always trying to get my bow that much faster and that much more power to the arrow when all it ever did was make me that much less accurate and consistent. I figured that if the bow will go to 70 lbs then I better set it at 70 and try and match my shooting to that weight. I have since tuned my bow down to 57 lbs and I have never been this accurate and consistent in my 16 years of bowhunting. If you can still keep your accuracy the same and still feel comfy going above 65 then go for it but as others have said, your not going to gain a whole lot, your bow is already set up to hit plenty hard.
:yeah: :yeah:
After competing in the poundage chase, 2 things got my mind right:
First I realized that it was my ego pushing me upward, not common sense. Lots and lots of game are killed at much more comfortable poundages. Especially with todays modern bow speeds! I had to embrace old age with all of its aches and pains.
2nd and more directly: I blew a chance at a nice whitetail while sitting on a bucket on an elevated stand cuz I suddenly couldn't draw full! I'd even tested myself in this situation and then at the moment of truth, with the adrenaline and the buck fever and the cold and after sitting for hours..... I just couldn't quite get those cams to break over the peak. :(
It sucked. At that point I decided to put my ego back where it belongs and went so far as to buy a completely different, lighter poundage bow. I traded off an awesome 2yr old bow at a huge loss because my ego wrote a check that my aged muscles couldn't cover.
Older and smarter! @ 56#s of draw
Post by: Instinct on October 01, 2012, 08:10:38 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on October 01, 2012, 08:15:52 AM
Post by: Instinct on October 01, 2012, 09:13:55 AM
Good decision. Bow hunting is hard enough without adding an ego boost to it.:chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on October 01, 2012, 01:37:29 PM
Currently im at 260f/sec but thanks for all the replies and everything makes sense. That good ol wise statement, if it aint broke dont fix it is true. I think i will stay where i am at, just wanting everyones thoughts and openions on it :)
Where did you get 260 fps? That seems very slow for the Destroyer at 65# and 28.5 draw. If that is off of AA there are some tricks to getting your actual speed correct. Again if the charts are right it doesn't matter other than ego. But, I expect you are shooting much faster than that. If not I think you might have a problem.
Post by: Battle Ready on October 01, 2012, 01:43:15 PM
Spending time practicing the ART of archery is far more reliable than counting on the SCIENCE of archery...without one..the other cannot happen.
Post by: Instinct on October 01, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
Post by: RadSav on October 01, 2012, 04:56:59 PM
I shot it through a chrono. A 28.5" arrow w/ a 27n draw. Arrow weighs 423 to 435 grains
Sounds like that is a camo shaft :dunno: Could you give me some details on your arrow. Like fletching, wrap, etc. And you are sure you have the Destroyer 350 and not the 340? Numbers even look a little slow if shooting the 340 with camo Axis 340's at 65#/27". Spine looks great though. :tup:
I find PSE's to miss the mark on FPS projections by quite a bit, but Bowtech is usually awful darned close. Sure would like to find out what the deal is. Though archery chrono's are known to vary about 10 fps from one to the next. 45 fps seems a little extreme.
Do you have a good pro shop with people you trust close by?
Post by: Instinct on October 01, 2012, 07:05:43 PM
Post by: RadSav on October 01, 2012, 07:47:55 PM
Yup its the 350. It is 9.5gr/in axis nanos (not camo) blazer wrap and has 4 blazer fletchings.
That is just plain weird. 10 grains heavy on what your arrow should be (that's a lot of glue) and 30 fps slow. I'd have someone with a real good knowledge of Bowtechs take a look at your bow. Cams might be a bit out of whack. You really should be above 270.
That being said...If you are shooting it well I'd still leave it where it is on poundage. 260 is plenty to kill just about everything in North America with a good sharp broadhead. Good luck to ya :tup:
Post by: Instinct on October 01, 2012, 09:09:45 PM
Post by: RadSav on October 01, 2012, 09:23:25 PM
Well i had a cam modual replaced cuz the little pin broke off it and the archery sho said it was out of time after he replaced it, he got it back into time so ya think that would have something to do with the speed? Its my first speed bow so its new too me.
I've broke that little pin a few times too. Shoots fine with just one, but that is a weak part of that cam. They make them with an interference fit. Sometimes it's a little much for such a small thread size.
That cam is insanely good at keeping it's time regardless of things you might do while shooting. But, it has to be "In Time" from the start to fully transfer effeciency and energy. I would have it double checked just to be sure. Octane strings are very good, but there is always a chance something could have changed. Especially since Bowtechs just aren't often off the mark on projected speeds. It happens, but not often.