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Title: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Hemtragus jemlahicus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 02, 2012, 09:35:32 PM
Chamois on public land are extremely weary.

These ones are well positioned to keep an eye on who's coming.

I got some close up pics froom close up and they never saw me.

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A Nice Day In the South Island Mountains

I got out fishing with my son yesterday....you've got to say it looks inviting.
Saw lots of Canada Geese...there is now an open season on these birds in New Zealand.

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New Zealand Wild Rams

The Arapawa Ram is included in the SCI trophy book.

The Arapawa Rams come from one of about 8 different wild ram flocks in New Zealand.

Most of these flocks have just about been wiped out.

This Woodstock Ram in this picture isn't in the SCI trophy book because they are so rare and have not been released in trophy estates.

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This is what ELK bulls look like at this time of the year here in the Extremely Southern State.

So hunting is more about tahr and chamois at this time of the year.

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ELK BULLS  versus   RED STAGS

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Scientists have reclassified the relationship between Elk bulls and Red Stags.

I was out hunting a couple of days ago and I was lucky enough to get some good photographs that show the variation in the devlepoment of Elk and Red Stag antlers in New Zealand.

It's now the end of October yet the red stag in the picture has still got both of its antlers.

In contrast with the elk which has dropped its antlers and already has a rack of velvet...I find this very interesting and it must surely show that there is a fundamental difference between the two animals.

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New Zealand FERAL SHEEP

I have an interest in the few remaining feral sheep flocks in New Zealand.

These sheep became isolated from domesticated stock over 100 years.

They can survive in the wild because they have clean faces and can shed their fleeces.

Unfortunately on public land these sheep are becoming rarer and rarer.

Today I got some good pictures of several Woodstock Rams...

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone know where this was animal was photographed recently?


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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 05, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
That was an unfair question. :)

This picture might help to clarify the location of the above animal.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Bigshooter on October 05, 2012, 06:20:48 PM
I believe there called tarh not sure about the spelling.  I'm not sure where you can hunt them in the states but i'm pretty sure they're in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 05, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
Big shooter,

Yes you got it. They're Himalyan tahr and the pictures are from the Rangitata River in the South Island where there is a big herd of wild tahr.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 07, 2012, 12:47:41 PM
Here in New Zealand we are supposed to be enjoying Spring. But yesterday I was hunting on the West Coast of the South Island with a mate. It had snowed overnight and we had to walk in snow from the carpark. The powder snow  was deep above timberline.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Bigshooter on October 07, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
Cool pics.  I believe those are called Chamois not sure if that is spelled right.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 17, 2012, 04:53:15 PM

This is what the New Zealand tahr hunting mountains look like at this time of the year.

I hunted up the valley on the left of the picture

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I managed to get quite a good tahr. This is an extremely steep slide and I had trouble stopping the tahr for the photograph

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: X-Force on October 17, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
I think i could get use to that beautiful country!  :chuckle:

 :tup:
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 17, 2012, 05:11:15 PM
Mate, I'm over 50, have been hunting all my life and I can't get enough of it.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Woodchuck on October 17, 2012, 05:19:40 PM
Great intro to the site. I have to ask, how in the world did you find it?
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 17, 2012, 05:25:56 PM
Sorry mate, not sure what you mean.

Are you asking how I found your forum?
Title: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Austrian Hunter on October 17, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
Some of them look like Chamois (Austrian Gams).
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Jason on October 17, 2012, 06:05:09 PM
Awesome! thanks for sharing the pics :tup:
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: NW-GSP on October 17, 2012, 06:07:27 PM
Sorry mate, not sure what you mean.

Are you asking how I found your forum?

I believe he is wondering how you came upon this forum.

Amazing pictures thank you for sharing
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 17, 2012, 07:10:30 PM
I've been to the USA a fair bit. The Southern States & Texas etc are mad on hunting. California too.
Recently I went to Pensylvannia and it was blackpowder and bow hunting only.
There's a lot of variation between the different states.
I hadn't been up Washington way ( or even thought about that part of the USA) so I checked on the net and found your very active forum.
Interesting reading.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Bean Counter on October 18, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
Welcome aboard, Kiwi! Hope ya stick around  :tup:
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 18, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
Thanks Mate, very nice of you to say so.

I've posted a picture of me on a recent hunt.
We had to walk through powder snow from the valley floor.
I basically ran out of grunt.

In New Zealand we mostly can hunt in areas free of snow at this time of the year.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: Bigshooter on October 18, 2012, 02:58:44 PM
Those are some awesome pics.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 22, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
Thanks for the nice comment...this pic is taken at the edge of a large high fence safari operation in the South Island mountains.

The grass is starting to grow as the temperatures start to increase...I guess it's the reverse with you guys up there?

Shorter days and lower temperatures??

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ****** Elk Bull versus Red Stag
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on October 31, 2012, 12:56:44 PM
Sorry Guys,

For some reason my picture didn't come up.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ****** Elk Bull versus Red Stag
Post by: Special T on October 31, 2012, 01:14:58 PM
Cool pics!  :tup:
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******* Elk Bull versus Red Stag
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on November 02, 2012, 02:18:50 PM
See my pics of Elk in the South Island high country.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******* Elk Bull versus Red Stag
Post by: 6x6in6 on November 02, 2012, 02:25:30 PM
Very cool!!

Welcome!!!  :)
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: elkoholic1 on November 05, 2012, 11:52:17 AM
welcome aboard!!!   :tup:
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: Ballance1 on November 05, 2012, 01:34:10 PM
Hunted out of christchurch with some friends up the poulter and various other places.  Had a great time and I am planning another trip back in 2014.  Love the pictures
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on November 05, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
Thanks Guys for your comments.

I'm pleased you enjoyed the Poulter...it's very scenic.

These pics are from a recreational hunt in December last year. (Yes I still enjoy recreational hunting)

It shows me looking up the Poulter from above the North Branch gorge having busted a gut to get up there.

The other picture is of a chamois with its kid taken on the same day in a head basin.

The majority of doe chamois have dropped their kids by mid December.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: Holg3107 on November 05, 2012, 03:16:39 PM
Fun thread! glad you found the site. Its always neat to see what others around the globe are doing!
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: Ballance1 on November 05, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
That is a great pic of the poulter. We walked from the car park to the poulter hut and hunted above lake minchin. Unbelievable place.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on November 05, 2012, 07:46:59 PM

You are no bunny...that is a good walk...look at the scale of the map (sorry about the quality)

I agree that Lake Minchin is a magical place...with fish in the lake.
I first went there as a boy and I can remember seeing three deer walk through the bush at the end of the lake.

My photograph from the mountain is looking across to the  Casey Stream.

You would have walked past the Casey Hut on your way up to Minchin Hut.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Ram
Post by: Ballance1 on November 06, 2012, 07:19:47 AM
Our friends kicked us yanks out at the car park and laughed as we carried our huge packs away.  It was fun but now I know why they go light everywhere. 
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Canada Geese
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on November 10, 2012, 10:39:45 AM

The New Zealand Mountains in Spring

At this time of the year, this is what you see up the Poulter.  There is an open season on these birds as of last year so they can be shot by anyone with anything.

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We got up here to do some fishing yesterday by 4WD & then by mountain bike.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on December 02, 2012, 10:16:03 PM

This pic is of chamois taken on public land.

It took me all day to get this photo. The animals are extremely wary.

At the moment the does tend to hang around timberline to drop their kids.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: csaaphill on December 02, 2012, 10:22:44 PM
cool nice stuff.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: shanevg on December 05, 2012, 08:00:16 AM
Chamois and Ibex are my two dream foreign animals.  I would love to come down there for a DIY chamois hunt sometime!  It looks like a ton of fun!
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: fillthefreezer on December 05, 2012, 08:20:36 AM
thanks for sharing! we camped this year with a kiwi that was showing us some of his stag hunts on his vid cam. crazy how similar the terrain is! 8)
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on December 05, 2012, 10:21:19 AM

This time of the year the stags aren't carrying their timber...but you can meat hunt.

The reds come out of the forests at dawn and dusk and you can pick up good meat with a yearling.

Only trouble is because of the hunting pressure  they keep very close to cover, like these two animals I photographed recently on public land.

You have to be quick.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: fillthefreezer on December 05, 2012, 10:24:53 AM
he was also showing us some helicopter hunts :drool:
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on December 05, 2012, 10:40:44 AM

Yea. We also use choppers to get onto the tops for tahr or chamois if necessary.

This one we used to get into a remote part of Fiordland.

I've walked into these places but it takes days to get there and days to get back.

A chopper is so tempting.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Red Stags
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on December 11, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
I went out for a hunt today and this is what I saw.

Red stags loaded with velvet...they were scrapping with each other, kicking and hustling.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Red Stags
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on December 29, 2012, 03:59:07 PM

SUMMER Tahr

Tahr in summer look like a different species...the bulls lose their manes and change colour.

The top animal is a mature bull, the others immature bulls meaning that they are not yet the full four years of age.

Hunters tend to go for tahr in winter because the pelt is also a great trophy at that time of year.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Tahr
Post by: L8NITE on December 29, 2012, 04:36:27 PM
WOW awesome pics...thanks for sharing and welcome to the site!!!
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Tahr
Post by: Machias on January 02, 2013, 06:44:16 AM
Awesome photos!  Someday!!!
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Tahr
Post by: Ballance1 on January 03, 2013, 11:14:47 AM
Are those stags behind the wire?
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Tahr
Post by: Widgeondeke on January 03, 2013, 11:37:51 AM
Saweet pics.  Thx for sharing them and the info. 
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Tahr
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on January 06, 2013, 02:25:44 AM

Summer Alpine Chamois

This is wot chamois look like in summer...taken recently on the eastern side of the main mountains of the South Island New Zealand.

Alpine Chamois are now nearly as wide spread as red deer.

The two chamois had been resting through the middle of the day but have just stood up in order to go for their afternoon snack.

They never saw me.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on January 16, 2013, 05:23:12 PM

Adult Female Chamois.     Canterbury New Zealand

This picture (taken yesterday) shows an adult female chamois under full acceleration.

Note that the coat is fully summer without any blemishes due to moult.

She did a 1000 foot climb with hardly a pause.

The agility and fitness of these animals, especially those hounded on public land is truly amazing.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Red Stag velvet
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on January 23, 2013, 08:38:38 PM

This is what the king of the deer family looks like at the moment...the antlers need a bit more time to harden up
but within about 2.5 months these boys will be making a bit of noise.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Red Stag velvet
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on February 07, 2013, 02:16:12 AM
Alpine chamois in New Zealand are hunted 24/7 like this one photographed two days ago on public land.

On the same morning this photograph was taken a commercial venison recovery helicopter was shooting the area for deer.

This animal was extremely touchy.

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Title: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Alpine Chamois
Post by: Austrian Hunter on February 07, 2013, 03:44:24 AM
Awesome pictures NZ.   Wow, makes me home sick, lol, but  not from New Zealand.  C
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Alpine Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on February 08, 2013, 12:58:09 PM

Thanks Mr Austria for your kind comment. (These animals were originally imported from Austria over 100 years ago as described in my book.)

This photo was taken a few moments after the one above.

At around 8 times optical zoom, I'm pretty close. But she still hasn't seen me.

A yellow hunting helicopter flew past a few minutes later.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Alpine Chamois
Post by: scree on February 10, 2013, 10:43:05 AM
I may have missed it but what is your book?
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Alpine Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on February 11, 2013, 01:54:25 AM

I took this photo this morning to illustrate two points..

1. You gotta get out of bed early to be consistently successful on public land.
    The time is 9.00 am and this animal has already lain down. It would be extremely hard to spot if you didn't know where it was.

2.  Chamois live in a wide range of habitats in New Zealand...this pic is taken in Marlborough in a rainfall area of about 30cm.
     Chamois also live in areas with a rainfall of well over 450cm.
(Book is "Chamois A New Zealand Hunter's Handbook)

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Alpine Chamois
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on February 20, 2013, 08:04:39 PM

Trophy?

Is it ok to call the back legs of this animal, a trophy?
Probably the best feed possible in New Zealand.

To get to it required about 1000m of climb...a gut buster by many hunters' standards.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Roaring Red Stags
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on April 16, 2013, 12:58:21 AM

THE RED STAG RUT (ROAR) NEW ZEALAND

The roar started early for me this year...I was lucky to get onto some good active Red Stags on public land in Mid March.
In new Zealand we have wild deer herds that originate from liberations made 100 years ago using founder stock from various parts of the UK and Scotland.


This photo was taken at 109m with 12 optical zoom.
When I put up the next photo of this stag maybe you can relate to the process of roaring in a Red Stag


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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus juvenile Hemitragus
Post by: lokidog on April 16, 2013, 11:22:32 AM
Nice photos, awesome that you are on public land.  My dad was down there a year and a half or so ago, he shot a huge stag (#11 I think) and a monster of an elk (#1 crossbow) as well as a few other critters.  He was not on public land.   :chuckle:  I'd love to get  down there some day, as would most of us I think.   ;)

Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on April 19, 2013, 09:29:21 PM
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I gave a low growl. So quietly that he didn't hear at first.
Suddenly his ears pricked up but he stayed sitting and roared.
Then after a few minutes he stood up and started raking the ground.

He was on his way to say hello to me.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on April 22, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
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So the red stag is on his way.
He doesn't make any more noises but what is clear is that he has pinpointed exactly where my growl has come from.
April is the only time of the year when red stags on public land can be readily seen...the rest of the time the stags stay buried in the brush.
The commercial venison recovery helicopters are not allowed to operate during the rut but the rest of the year they shoot these animals from the air.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on July 01, 2013, 04:29:31 PM
Picture of a buck mooching around in June at the end of the rut.

We've has just experienced one of the heaviest dumps of snow in decades.
Much of the normal hunting areas are unsafe because of avalanche danger.
Luckily warm winds have juststarted to melt the snow off the river flats which means that we will be able to get out hunting again soon.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: longrange7mm on July 01, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
awesome pics
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on August 01, 2013, 11:14:23 AM
The record snowfall in Canterbury has melted back over the last month and hunting is now readily available.

Here is a group of nine chamois I found recently.

We chose to take the master buck who was still spending a lot of energy trying to chase off a lesser buck.


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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: CoryTDF on August 01, 2013, 11:31:18 AM
Thats it! New Zeland is now on my to do list. My wife went there about 6 years ago and loved it.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on August 05, 2013, 05:18:36 PM
Wild Red Stags

The wilderness Red Stags have been quiet now for several months but they have not yet shed their antlers.

This is the Red Stag shown approaching me in the above pictures (at about 20 meters).
It took one look at me, snorted and then bolted over a distant ridge.

I wonder if it has yet fallen to a helicopter hunter.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: CoryTDF on August 06, 2013, 07:20:50 AM

I wonder if it has yet fallen to a helicopter hunter.

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Really? You can hunt them in helicopters? Thats a little unfair.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on August 14, 2013, 07:55:16 PM

Mate I think "a little unfair" is an understatement.
Helicopters take deer in New Zealand as part of venison recovery operations for overseas markets.

However, the chamois in recent years have been largely untouched because over the last few years no European importers have offered profitable contracts for chamois meat.

Chamois, like this one taken last week, offer great sport often in challenging terrain.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Rupicapra rupicapra
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on August 14, 2013, 08:50:54 PM
If I was to ever move away from the US, New Zealand would be top of my list!  Hunting and fishing paradise.  I would love to go there and do a DIY hunt/fish trip, but wouldn't know where to start.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Cervus elaphus
Post by: CoryTDF on August 15, 2013, 07:02:43 AM

Mate I think "a little unfair" is an understatement.
Helicopters take deer in New Zealand as part of venison recovery operations for overseas markets.

However, the chamois in recent years have been largely untouched because over the last few years no European importers have offered profitable contracts for chamois meat.

Chamois, like this one taken last week, offer great sport often in challenging terrain.

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Man that is absolutely beautiful! Would love to get my boots on that soil someday. And that is a fine looking animal.
Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Rupicapra rupicapra
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on August 22, 2013, 12:17:14 AM
When hunting tahr the question is always whether you're onto a trophy or not.

This animal is probably around 4 years and not a mature bull....you can tell by the colour of its pelt, body bulk and the shape of its horns.

But by getting above him I'm in a superior position.

Tahr don't seem to worry about danger on the mountainside above them so coming down is the ideal approach.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Rupicapra rupicapra
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on August 27, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
Bull Tahr

Some of the bull tahr have grouped together now, although they're still staying close to their nannies.

These ones  got a whiff of us and we didn't get a chance even for a long shot.

We watched them climb a mountain and then disappear around a ridge...to follow them would have been both too hard and a waste of time.

You can see that the one at the rear is a mature bull while the other two are less than four years old.

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Title: Re: Extremely Southern State ******** Ram versus Rupicapra
Post by: nzhuntinginfo on September 24, 2013, 03:08:45 PM
Wild Animal Behaviour    Alpine Game

This fellow recently photographed in the Canterbury high country knows that something's up so he's following his instinct and looking downhill.
New Zealand doesn't have any natural predators for chamois but this sort of response to danger makes you wonder about the tactics of the chamois' natural predators in Europe...me thinks climb high and jump although you wouldn't want to go over the edge here. There's a genuine 1000 ft drop below.

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