Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: KFhunter on October 06, 2012, 10:58:19 AM
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http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2012101004 (http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2012101004)
If you want to hear this from the beginning
http://podcasts.tvw.org/201210/2012101004.mp3 (http://podcasts.tvw.org/201210/2012101004.mp3)
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I am surpised that no one from here went to that meeting. It will be interesting to see the whole thing. I just started watching it.
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wish we could see the screens he's referring too
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talking about poaching now
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wish we could see the screens he's referring too
:yeah: Unfortunately I couldn't watch the whole thing anyway because of my mifi :P
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101 packs in Idaho!! :yike:
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At least Anderson is admitting how quickly WA will get "colonized" by wolves
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helicopter darting coming this winter!
no foothold traps in the winter - wolfs foot might get cold :chuckle:
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they want to delay turnout to open range for ranchers, that's going to add cost to ranchers
really promoting range riders
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At least Anderson is admitting how quickly WA will get "colonized" by wolves
I obviously am not rubber stamping everything Anderson has or wants to do, and I still maintain that the WDFW implemented a faulty wolf plan, but when you consider the large number of pro-wolfers in this state, I think Anderson is handling this better than any director we've had in decades would have handled it.
Brace yourselves, Washington will end up spending a fortune on woves just like every other state.
I think that hunters should work with legislators to get the wolf "tab" put onto the taxpayers, the people who wanted wolves, the costs of wolves should not be coming from the wildlife fund in WDFW which is derived from hunting and fishing license sales. Unless I am mistaken it will take a legislative action to do that.
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they are really concerned about poaching
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I think that hunters should work with legislators to get the wolf "tab" put onto the taxpayers, the people who wanted wolves, the costs of wolves should not be coming from the wildlife fund in WDFW which is derived from hunting and fishing license sales.
Oh no no...those greenies don't want to have to pay for them, they just want to run everything else about them. If they really wanted all the wolves and protections then why don't they spend more than a discover pass per year if that??? Sure they will pay for legal fees to fight the hunters but make no mistake there is no outpouring of cash otherwise... :dunno: Just sayin :dunno:
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If you go to the wolf section on WDFW website, you can click on "Briefing to Commission on Wolf Conservation and Management Plan Implementation - Oct 5, 2012" and watch the slides as you listen to the meeting in another window.
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This link should get you into the WDFW Director's presentation which follows the previous posted link.
http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2012101005 (http://tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2012101005)
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I've now listened to the frist 1.25 mins...public comments begin approx around 50 min mark. Anway, I've now listened to the first 6 or 7 public speakers and all have been pro-wolf. :bash: ...still listening tho....
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I've now listened to the frist 1.25 mins...public comments begin approx around 50 min mark. Anway, I've now listened to the first 6 or 7 public speakers and all have been pro-wolf. :bash: ...still listening tho....
What are they asking :dunno:
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first 10 speakers (approx.)..still all pro wolf....
Mainly the pro-wolfers want more accountabilty by wdfw before lethal actions are taken, re-location before lethal action, and more public awareness/communications as the situation progresses (not just in the aftermath).
I will say after the commission spoke they did give the head cattle rep a while to speak before open mic to the public comments
...oooh finally at 1.37 mark and a non pro wolf speaker is up. :tup:
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I want to choke that guy that keeps coughing and hocking up luggies!!! :mgun: :bfg: :mor: :lol4:
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WDFW had very good data and professional experts opinions supporting their decision to remove the pack. Director Anderson said the GPS monitoring showed the collared male wolf followed the cattle trucks as they removed the cattle from the grazing allotments. :chuckle:
It's amazing how stubborn the wolfers are, to protest the killing of habituated livestock killing wolves really displays their mentality. I especially would note the brilliant advice for WDFW to translocate wolves that are proven to be cattle killers to other parts of Washington. For the most part once you've heard two or three of them testify, you've heard them all, pretty much all the same naive comments by all of them, sort of like a broken record.
Then there was the guy who claimed he was an elk & deer hunter, ya right mate! How about the woman complaining about Washington "smoking a pack a day". The lady wanting us to live with the wolves, I only ask that she do the same. Perhaps we can arrange a translocation of any remaining wedge pack wolves to Seattle so that she can practice what she preaches. These people are certainly a bag full of unsurprises. :chuckle:
I enjoyed Senator Morton joking about a canadian wolf license. Farm Bureau, Bill McIrvin, and the other ranchers and county commissioners did a good job of representing ranchers and asking the WDFW to delist Eastern WA.
What I do see here is another expense to add to the wolf management tab, this time it was spent on managing wolf lovers. :twocents:
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I watched the whole meeting and it was quite informative to see what kind of ignorant opposition we are up against. Another letter sent to Senator Bob in support of all those who are participated at the meeting in support to delist wolves. It looks like we are forced to live with wolves for the rest of our lives. I don’t know the solution to the big picture or even if there is one. The big thing here is, not to back down and continue to let our voices be heard. If we don’t speak up, the environmentalists will absolutely win while defining our destiny from across the Cascades.