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Title: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: et1702 on October 08, 2012, 01:34:45 PM
INCREDIBLE Place!!!  I shot a cow elk opening day here in WA before I had to go to New Mex. for my Valles Caldera hunt.  While in New Mex.  I had shot opportunities everyday at big bulls and passed up shots at smaller bulls the first couple days.  I had two 360 to 370 inch bulls fighting in front of me on opening morning and drew back on them a couple of times but had to let down as I just couldn’t get the shot (i.e., they were moving around and timber was pretty thick).  Same morning, I was hiking out and came across a big bull that was bedded on other side of log.  I estimated 40yrds and center punched the log beside him.  He was 52 to 53yrds...Darn they grow them big down there!  On the second morning, they were going up the hill early and in the dark.  Bugling all around me, plus had a bull cross in front of me in the dark at 15 to 20yrds...too dark to shoot.  After he passed on by, I chose one of the big boys bugling on either side of me and  followed a big bull & his cows up the hill.  I was able to shadow them to their bed.  Perfect set up, they were on a bench above me and steep slope that I was on below them.  SO, I just kept watching the bulls antlers (i.e., make sure he wasn't startled and still looking away from my position) and I was able to get within 30 yards of him while he was bedded down near top of the mountain.  When I peeked up over the lip of the bench, he had his rear to me and no shot.  So, as I was waiting for him to stand up, the sun was getting higher overhead and the wind started to shift from downhill to uphill and he winded me.  Bull and about 8 cows didn't wait to see where I was at or how close I was and just took off.  On the third afternoon of the hunt, it was warm and I decided to hunt a water hole out in the open valley.

That evening there were 80 to 120 cows spread out along the tree line for a couple miles with numerous bulls all around different groups of cows w/herd bulls fighting off all the satellites.  But, it was warm and even the big boys had to leave the cows and come down to the water hole for a quick swim to cool off and then trot back up the hill where the action was located.  Within 20 minutes of sitting at the water hole, I already had two smaller satellite bulls that came down and were rolling in the mud at the far end.  They just decided to wait until the cows came down for the evening.  But, the bigger bulls would come down, drink some water, go for a swim and then back up the hill.  Before I got set up at the water hole, I saw a nice 345/350 bull came down and did just as I mentioned.  So, I was just lying in the grass on the back side of the earthen dike and waiting to hear splashing before seeing if it was the bull I wanted.  When I heard one splashing in the water hole, I peeked up over the top of the dike and all I saw were the tops of BIG antlers. I knew he was a big one and I didn't even do a quick count.  I just got my knees up underneath me and then drew my bow as I straightened up to shoot over the top of the dike.  I estimated 40yrds and put the pin behind his shoulder, settled in and touched off.  At this point, the bull was standing in the water and the arrow hit right at the water line.  A perfect lung and heart shot, as he was slightly angled away and I was shooting downhill. When the arrow hit he bucked like a mule and ran through the water and then trotted up the hill where he bedded down about 100yrds away.  I watched him and his head was getting heavy.  He dropped his head a couple times and I thought he was done.  Then, he stood up and I thought "oh *censored*."  But, he only took a couple steps and then put his head down.  He then buried his brow times in the dirt in front of him to stabilize him from falling over.  I could see him getting wobbly in the hind end and then he just did a four-legged flop onto his side and was down for good. Obviously, all this only took a couple minutes, but it seemed like forever.  Absolutely amazing to see it all, rather than just hearing the crashing in the trees when they go down.  Like I said, I didn't really judge how big he was when I first saw him at the water hole.  So, when I walked up to him, I was absolutely amazed. Then, I saw how big he really was, plus the double brow tine too!  Lots of Mass, long tines and he scored 359 & 3/8 as non-typical 6 X 7!!!  The Valles Caldera crew estimated that he was between 700 and 800lbs on the hoof and was approx. 7 to 8 years old.  I also gave them the heart and kidneys for further evaluation of herd heatlh.

An absolutely amazing place!!!  Wish I could live there.  In the meantime, I'll continue buying lottery tickets every year!!!  I’ve attached a couple pics for everyone.

ET
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Maligator on October 08, 2012, 01:43:32 PM
Man that's a BEAUTIFUL bull!!  :drool: Congrats to you!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Bigshooter on October 08, 2012, 01:46:10 PM
Nice bull.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: wamuledeer on October 08, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
Awesome bull, congrats.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: christopheri on October 08, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
What a great hunting trip! Thanks for shareing :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 08, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Thats a dandy bull you got! :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on October 08, 2012, 02:03:09 PM
Awsome bull....sounds like a hell of a hunt!
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: 270Flat on October 08, 2012, 02:09:24 PM
Awesome job! Great story
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Wea300mag on October 08, 2012, 02:14:52 PM
Very nice story and elk, congrats!
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: et1702 on October 08, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
Thanks everyone!  I forgot to mention that there were only 15 hunters allowed during my second archery season at the Caldera.  With New Mex's tag allocation system, 13 tags are for residents, one for outfitters and one for non-residents.  I was lucky enough this year to draw the one non-resident tag!  The hunt was Sept 14th thru the 18th, and I shot him on Sunday the 16th at about 530pm.  This same afternoon/evening, three other archers were also successful and tagged out.  One of the guys shot a 382" monster.  Where my bull has weak 3rds, his was really long on the 3rds.  Two other guys had tagged out on the first day, plus one more on the second day.  Most of the other bullls were between 298 and 345".  So, when I tagged out, success rate was approx 50% with two more days to hunt.  Also, jus about all the other hunters had passed on smaller bulls the first couple days, so shot opportunity was 100%.

ET
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: BIGMIKE on October 08, 2012, 02:45:00 PM
awesome bull bro. congrats.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: ellensburgpo on October 08, 2012, 02:52:31 PM
Very nice write up. Beautiful bull.
Title: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: jackelope on October 08, 2012, 02:55:22 PM
Congrats again, Ed. Beautiful bill..,Glad you got the pics to work.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: et1702 on October 08, 2012, 02:59:53 PM
Congrats again, Ed. Beautiful bill..,Glad you got the pics to work.

Hey Josh,  Thanks for the help w/resizing the pics!

Take care,

ET
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 08, 2012, 03:00:01 PM
Hell yeah that works ...congrats  :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: FSTaxidermy on October 08, 2012, 03:18:08 PM
Awesome bull :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 08, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
Congrats on a heck of a bull!!!! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on October 08, 2012, 04:41:55 PM
That is an awesome bull, congrats!!!
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Fullabull on October 08, 2012, 04:55:56 PM
Nice story, congrats on a beautiful bull and experience !!!  :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Button Nubbs on October 08, 2012, 05:00:22 PM
wow beautiful bull! :tup: :drool:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Basket Rack on October 08, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
Great bull!!
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: bearhunter99 on October 08, 2012, 08:11:34 PM
Great bull!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: dewandgin on October 08, 2012, 08:20:56 PM
Nice Bull!! :drool:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: ribka on October 08, 2012, 08:58:37 PM
Ed
What are you going to do for an encore?

A 180 mule deer buck late archery? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:


Big bulll congrats
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: nwhunter on October 08, 2012, 09:06:33 PM
COngrats on a great bull. I agree the caldera is one of if not the most beautiful elk hunting area on earth. I can only hope to get to hunt there again someday. Good job. nwhunter
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: SniperDanWA on October 08, 2012, 09:50:25 PM
Nice story, congrats on a beautiful bull and experience !!!  :tup:

 :yeah: x2
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Mfowl on October 08, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
X3
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Bluesdude on October 09, 2012, 06:17:03 AM
Great bull, I would love to hunt there someday! :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 09, 2012, 06:22:17 AM
Very nice ED. I take it this was your first time draw for this permit.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Elkpiss on October 09, 2012, 07:09:43 AM
Awesome man, that is a dream hunt right there.. I bet you got alot of  :tup: on your drive home with that hog in the back of your truck like that!... Congrats on your success!>.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: et1702 on October 09, 2012, 07:18:44 AM
Ed
What are you going to do for an encore?

A 180 mule deer buck late archery? :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:


Big bulll congrats

Hey Tom,

You bet, that Entiat late archery tag of mine is still waiting to be filled.  Come on over w/me and hunt Swakane for your doe tag, or general Buck.  I've been getting some great intel on both Swakane and Entiat and plan to go familiarize myself before the snow flies.

ET
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: Elkrunner on October 09, 2012, 07:44:29 AM
Great job again Ed. 

Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: lokidog on October 09, 2012, 07:53:08 AM
Great animal, and DIY at that.   :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: cedarriver on October 09, 2012, 08:17:18 AM
Great Bull! Congrats! Love that extra point off the brow.
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: et1702 on October 09, 2012, 09:35:23 AM
Very nice ED. I take it this was your first time draw for this permit.

Thanks!  Actually, this is the second time I've hunted the Caldera.  I was lucky enough to be drawn the first time I applied there in 2007, and I've been applying EVERY year since.  In 2007, I was chasing around a 380 bull all week that we nicknamed Ole Growly, because he roared instead of bugling.  It came down to the last few minutes of the last day of the hunt.  I had no less than 12 different bulls all coming down the hill.  But, it was getting dark and I shot a spike that stepped out into the open.  But, saw lots of big bulls and had several shot opportunities during the week.  Just got greedy and wanted Ole Growly.  Again, this is the best place on earth that I've ever hunted elk, and I've hunted in just about all the western states.  So, I'm buying tickets again this year!!!

ET
Title: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: iRem on October 09, 2012, 01:05:42 PM
Wow nice job, I think it's time to go next year!
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: elkoholic1 on October 09, 2012, 01:13:35 PM
AWESOME BULL!   congrats   :tup:
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: et1702 on October 09, 2012, 01:45:50 PM
Awesome man, that is a dream hunt right there.. I bet you got alot of  :tup: on your drive home with that hog in the back of your truck like that!... Congrats on your success!>.

Yes, lots of  :tup: during the drive home and every time I stopped for diesel fuel I had several guys come over and ask if they could take pictures.  It was 1400 miles of driving.  So, after first day I put him in the 5th wheel for the rest of the ride home, as I didn't want to take any chances of him growing legs and walking away while I was sleeping in the trailer...lol
Title: Re: My DIY Archery Valles Caldera, New Mex. Bull...359 & 3/8's!!!
Post by: trophyhunt on November 12, 2012, 10:33:12 AM
How did I miss this thread?? Sweet bull Ed, great job! I'll be waiting for the pic's of your late archery hunt, get a big one!
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