Post by: Band on October 11, 2012, 07:03:40 AM
I was going to leave town after work today but now I guess I have to figure out plan B...which might be to skip the damn season this year. %#*-@& :bash: :guns:
Post by: runningboard on October 11, 2012, 07:06:08 AM
Post by: boneaddict on October 11, 2012, 07:07:33 AM
Post by: Band on October 11, 2012, 07:10:38 AM
which GMU if you don't mind?GMU 130. I researched this piece of property for years until finally asking and getting permission. I didn't take a shot last year but I could have taken one of about 10 legal bucks the first two days but chose to wait for the big one which never came. The place is crawling with deer, almost all of them bucks. And now, back to square one. :(
Post by: ICEMAN on October 11, 2012, 07:13:16 AM
Its gods way of saying "Check out a different ridge". Change sucks, just ask any Obama hater. Its how we roll with change that will define you.
Agree. Make this season a chance to explore and learn something new.
Post by: Band on October 11, 2012, 07:21:51 AM
Agree. Make this season a chance to explore and learn something new.Sounds like a good idea, I just wish I had more notice than this. I'd love to hunt near my new cabin in Roslyn but this doesn't leave me much time to research public land around there. Grumble, grumble...
Post by: lokidog on October 11, 2012, 07:23:18 AM
The land owner could have said no, he already promised access to someone else, which would have been the stand up thing to do. Maybe you could have done something more to maintain your position? Touch bases more during the off season, offer to pay something for the owner's troubles, restaurant gift card, etc.
My parents have land (400+ acres) in northern WI on which about 10 friends hunt as well as them. They have asked them to do at least one work day and pay $100 each to help cover taxes.
Again, don't want to come down too hard on you as it really sucks to lose access, especially at such a late date. Hopefully others with a good deal will take note and do what they can to keep their own access.
Good luck, there are little pieces of state land all over. I got a doe two years ago on one that I had never set foot on previously (never saw another hunter on my side of the road that split the unit) and saw a shooter on another piece the first time on it (after opening weekend).
Post by: boneaddict on October 11, 2012, 07:24:04 AM
Post by: snowshoes22 on October 11, 2012, 07:26:49 AM
Post by: h20hunter on October 11, 2012, 07:26:57 AM
Post by: ribka on October 11, 2012, 07:34:19 AM
The past 20 years seems a good deal of prime deer property is being leased up all accross the US. Pay to play. If you find a good piece of land consider setting up a long term lease and pay for it.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 11, 2012, 07:39:32 AM
That sucks, but blame could probably be spread around to the land owner and maybe yourself.
The land owner could have said no, he already promised access to someone else, which would have been the stand up thing to do. Maybe you could have done something more to maintain your position? Touch bases more during the off season, offer to pay something for the owner's troubles, restaurant gift card, etc.
A small token of appreciation goes a LONG ways with landowners...a gift card, bottle of their favorite top shelf drink, some fish or smoked meat..those gifts pay off.
Post by: link on October 11, 2012, 07:50:47 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 11, 2012, 08:03:22 AM
Post by: Band on October 11, 2012, 08:10:30 AM
The daughter and son-in-law both welcomed me back this year and I maintained occasional contact with them since they seemed to be taking over the permission duties. And I brought them a nice smoked salmon fillet when I showed up to hunt last year.
And then I was surprised by the daughter with the phone call. Apparently she had reminded her mom that I was coming and then mom said "oh, wait a minute...".
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on October 11, 2012, 08:21:25 AM
Post by: Huntbear on October 11, 2012, 08:25:11 AM
Some damn fine bucks in the Teanaway.
And in the Taneum.
Post by: TeanawayStalker on October 11, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
Some damn fine bucks in the Teanaway.
Nope no deer in the Teanaway....nothin to see here ;)
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 11, 2012, 11:39:05 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 11, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 11, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Post by: buckster on October 11, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
which GMU if you don't mind?GMU 130. I researched this piece of property for years until finally asking and getting permission. I didn't take a shot last year but I could have taken one of about 10 legal bucks the first two days but chose to wait for the big one which never came. The place is crawling with deer, almost all of them bucks. And now, back to square one. :(
[pay him some money to get in too.. i mean if its as good as you say.]
Post by: bosshogg112 on October 11, 2012, 03:50:27 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on October 11, 2012, 03:53:19 PM
Hate to say it, but, who in their right mind wants to hunt around a bunch of numbskulls anyhow. It's waaaaaaaaaaay to close to Seattle for me, even when I lived in Graham. I just flat out stopped hunting any where near Seattle people, too trigger happy !!!Hey Campmeat you hitting the deer camp adult beverages early :chuckle: :chuckle:. He did say GMU 130 that is way on the east side unless your talking about his cabin which is also on the eastside.
Yeah that sucks big time to be so late in the game for you. Good luck and yes from what I have heard lots of nice size muleys around your cabin.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 11, 2012, 03:53:59 PM
Post by: Band on October 11, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
Is that around Cheney where this happened? I exclusively hunt gmu 130 for deer (all state land) and would gladly point you to a few pieces of land that we have seen shootable deer on. let me know.It is indeed in the Cheney area. Thank you for your very kind offer but I've decided to head to the cabin and hunt what looks like a decent area (on paper anyway). Wish me luck, I'm going to need it! :hello:
Post by: Kola16 on October 11, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on October 11, 2012, 04:21:44 PM
but your gripe is way over the top.
i dont think the OP is being over the top, he lost access to a piece of ground because a group of guys flashed a bunch of money at the land owner. im sorry but hunting in WA is expensive enough as it is and can be pretty tough to find good spots and then only to loose a good spot because some guy shows up with a fist full of cash, yeah id be hacked off too. do i blame the old gal not really cash in cash, i do blame the outdoor channel for the commercialization of hunting and the need to show off how big your ego is by "owning" "hunting rights" to land parcels and kill monster bucks
To the OP: sorry dude that sucks, hopefully this momentary set back is just a bend in the road and it'll all work out for ya next week
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 11, 2012, 05:37:03 PM
Hate to say it, but, who in their right mind wants to hunt around a bunch of numbskulls anyhow. It's waaaaaaaaaaay to close to Seattle for me, even when I lived in Graham. I just flat out stopped hunting any where near Seattle people, too trigger happy !!!Hey Campmeat you hitting the deer camp adult beverages early :chuckle: :chuckle:. He did say GMU 130 that is way on the east side unless your talking about his cabin which is also on the eastside.
Yeah that sucks big time to be so late in the game for you. Good luck and yes from what I have heard lots of nice size muleys around your cabin.
His cabin, but he didn't mention 130 in the OP. Now I'll have a beer before Biden gets his ass kicked !!! :chuckle: He should look into the Swanson Lakes Rec Area.
Post by: Band on October 11, 2012, 06:00:25 PM
Post by: deerslyr on October 11, 2012, 06:22:57 PM
Agree. Make this season a chance to explore and learn something new.Sounds like a good idea, I just wish I had more notice than this. I'd love to hunt near my new cabin in Roslyn but this doesn't leave me much time to research public land around there. Grumble, grumble...
pm me about public land near roslyn. Im sure you already know some areas but I'd give you what I got
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 11, 2012, 06:25:02 PM
Just one more comment before I head out of town. The guy who aced me out did it purely out of spite and selfishness. Am I being over the top? Not only "no" but "he'll no". I'm deciding to turn the other cheek rather than get even with the guy. Life is too short. And now I'm outta here...
Good luck and moon the jerk for us !!
Post by: gadwall on October 11, 2012, 08:52:27 PM
which GMU if you don't mind?GMU 130. I researched this piece of property for years until finally asking and getting permission. I didn't take a shot last year but I could have taken one of about 10 legal bucks the first two days but chose to wait for the big one which never came. The place is crawling with deer, almost all of them bucks. And now, back to square one. :(
I know it's disappointing but find another place to hunt, seriously. 130 has become a pain in the butt for the reasons that you state here. I lost 40 acres of premium duck hunting ground years ago for the exact same reason. It took a season or 2 and some intensive homework in the off-season but we found a new spot. Good luck and don't give up.
Post by: sticky on October 11, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
The statement rings more true each year.
Post by: huntnphool on October 11, 2012, 11:36:04 PM
Post by: csaaphill on October 11, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
welcome to my club same thing happened to me: at least similar. Land me and my dad hunted for years was boght up and now has fricking no hunting signs all over pisses me off. Are there any feel free to hunt signs close by use em get my meaning.
This thing is what I deal with in my area hard to get to public land and where it's close is all no trespassing >:(
I guess I should go along with the others on this but can't
We should start some kind of group for this kind of *censored*!!!!!!
Post by: csaaphill on October 12, 2012, 12:07:24 AM
Ya no he aint over the top right on the money!!! sucks to have open land pulled from ya like that.but your gripe is way over the top.
i dont think the OP is being over the top, he lost access to a piece of ground because a group of guys flashed a bunch of money at the land owner. im sorry but hunting in WA is expensive enough as it is and can be pretty tough to find good spots and then only to loose a good spot because some guy shows up with a fist full of cash, yeah id be hacked off too. do i blame the old gal not really cash in cash, i do blame the outdoor channel for the commercialization of hunting and the need to show off how big your ego is by "owning" "hunting rights" to land parcels and kill monster bucks
To the OP: sorry dude that sucks, hopefully this momentary set back is just a bend in the road and it'll all work out for ya next week
This one will always bring my blood to boil.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 12, 2012, 03:08:28 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 12, 2012, 03:58:30 AM
I have maintained a honey hole access or two by buttering up the landowner, treating the land well, showering them with gifts, and still expecting nothing in return. So far it has worked. One has even turned down other hunters who have come knocking with open wallets. Some day I may get ousted. I'm not going to attack the other guy by calling him a "hunter" instead of just a fellow hunter. That's something I'm ready for especially without a contractual relationship. Its one thing if you had a contract for $100 a year for five years and in the middle of year two another guy comes along with $3,000 to interrupt.
If you think its bad in the west try hunting back east. There is far more public hunting land in WA (at least federal land) than in Texas. :yike:
Post by: jmx369 on October 12, 2012, 05:19:05 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 12, 2012, 05:27:36 AM
Unfortunatly a lot of the best hunting is on private land these days. You can't blame the guy for locking up a good chunk to hunt himself, if he's got the means why not?Spoken from a man in the same situation.
Post by: tater77 on October 12, 2012, 05:30:11 AM
Post by: S&W38spc on October 12, 2012, 05:40:23 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 12, 2012, 05:50:50 AM
Post by: headshot5 on October 12, 2012, 06:01:38 AM
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Here's the bottom line: if you want unfettered access to private land without the possibility of losing it, buy some. Otherwise, you're outta luck.
And as soon as you do buy some private property get ready to meet the tresspassers, thieves etc.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 12, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
QuoteHere's the bottom line: if you want unfettered access to private land without the possibility of losing it, buy some. Otherwise, you're outta luck.
And as soon as you do buy some private property get ready to meet the tresspassers, thieves etc.
I have some property and nobody I know would want to meet me and my little friend in the middle of the night or day.. :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 12, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
QuoteHere's the bottom line: if you want unfettered access to private land without the possibility of losing it, buy some. Otherwise, you're outta luck.
And as soon as you do buy some private property get ready to meet the tresspassers, thieves etc.
I have some property and nobody I know would want to meet me and my little friend in the middle of the night or day.. :tup:
That's "leetle" friend, and I believe you, CM! :yike: :yike:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 12, 2012, 08:53:04 AM
QuoteHere's the bottom line: if you want unfettered access to private land without the possibility of losing it, buy some. Otherwise, you're outta luck.
And as soon as you do buy some private property get ready to meet the tresspassers, thieves etc.
Not if it were mine.
Post by: huntnphool on October 12, 2012, 09:05:56 AM
Yes Sir ;) I was in the same situation years ago and watched a outfitter slowly take over the area I had been hunting for years. I got to become friends with the land owner and could hunt the land but each year the outfitter put more and more pressure on the land owner to not allow anyone but his clients hunting rights. The land owner was between a rock and a hard place because all though we were friends, with today's economy, they really needed the extra income. Old land owners in much of the country are land rich but income poor and have come to rely on stuff like that just to get by these days.Unfortunatly a lot of the best hunting is on private land these days. You can't blame the guy for locking up a good chunk to hunt himself, if he's got the means why not?Spoken from a man in the same situation.
Long story short, my options were to whine and look somewhere else or get in the fight, I chose to fight.
Post by: huntnphool on October 12, 2012, 09:07:58 AM
Here's the bottom line: if you want unfettered access to private land without the possibility of losing it, buy some. Otherwise, you're outta luck.+1, or pony up the lease money yourself.
Post by: Fishstiq on October 12, 2012, 09:56:54 AM
The supply of huntable areas is either static or declining (likely the latter). The demand for use of these lands grows every year. Ergo, the value of the use of the huntable areas goes up year after year. The outcome is inevitable, someone will pay more for the use of the land.
That pretty much leaves 3 choices. 1, be the guy who bids more $. 2, be the guy who gets outbid and move to other land. 3, be the land owner, and be pretty much guaranteed a growing source of income.
It's an unfortunate situation if you are guy #2, but I can't really relate to being "sick to my stomach" over it... :dunno:
Post by: csaaphill on October 12, 2012, 05:01:31 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on October 12, 2012, 06:56:28 PM