Post by: novice870 on October 11, 2012, 09:56:45 AM
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Matt
Post by: 92xj on October 11, 2012, 09:59:14 AM
I believe its plenty of bullet to hunt deer.
Deer have been killed with 22s for many many years.
Hit where you are aiming and aim in the right spot and you/he will kill deer every shot.
If you continue to question this load, switch. The bullet is fine, but your questioning will now be a mental thing in the field and your mind will be on the bullet and it doing its job and not shot placement. Hunt with something you will not question or think twice about.
Post by: Huntbear on October 11, 2012, 10:05:10 AM
In other words, do not try to bust a shoulder to get through to the vitals. He will have to wait till the leg is forward on a broadside shot. IF he is taking nothing but headshots, good to go....
Post by: novice870 on October 11, 2012, 10:07:41 AM
Post by: Dan-o on October 11, 2012, 10:27:56 AM
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
Post by: brokenvet on October 11, 2012, 10:37:29 AM
Post by: packmule on October 11, 2012, 10:42:26 AM
Post by: Huntbear on October 11, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
243 is way plenty for whitetail.
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
That is because the .257 Roberts is actually an Elk and Bear gun for THOSE OF US who know how to shoot.. unlike others like.. cough cough DAN-O cough cough.... that obviously have to make up for a shortage of something by using SUPER MAGNUM rifles on Mice, and chipmunks..... :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on October 11, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
Post by: blacktailcody on October 11, 2012, 11:05:21 AM
Post by: dscubame on October 11, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Post by: TheFewTheProud on October 11, 2012, 11:12:09 AM
Post by: C-Money on October 11, 2012, 11:21:30 AM
Post by: TheFewTheProud on October 11, 2012, 11:38:49 AM
Post by: Caseyd on October 11, 2012, 11:44:04 AM
Post by: Derailed on October 11, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 11, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
Post by: novice870 on October 11, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
You all are alright! :tup:
Post by: wsucowboy on October 11, 2012, 12:23:38 PM
Post by: CHUCK S on October 11, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
Post by: novice870 on October 11, 2012, 12:32:27 PM
Post by: bradslam on October 11, 2012, 09:18:46 PM
243 is way plenty for whitetail.
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
I can only hope you are joking about the .257 Roberts not being adequate for white-tail.
Post by: runamuk on October 11, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
243 is way plenty for whitetail.
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
I can only hope you are joking about the .257 Roberts not being adequate for white-tail.
he is razzing huntbear..... :nono: :nono: messing up this good thread.....
I think if modern doesn't open soon everyone is gonna implode around here
Post by: Huntbear on October 11, 2012, 09:28:32 PM
243 is way plenty for whitetail.
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
I can only hope you are joking about the .257 Roberts not being adequate for white-tail.
Yes, he is trying to mess with me... what he does not know, is I sent pictures of his human wife to his Bigfoot wife via Chipmunk messenger....
DAN-O you gonna have a lot of explainin to dooooooooo..... :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: huntnphool on October 11, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
My son will be shooting a .243 for whitetail this year. I currently have him shooting 100grain bullets...my question is, is that adequate weight for hunting whitetail? I totally understand that shot placement is paramount, but I am just wondering if more weight is required for an ethical kill?I seriously doubt you will find a bigger whitetail than these two muley's and both of these were dropped with single shots from a 100gr. Nosler Partition from a .243. ;)
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Matt
Post by: dbor on October 11, 2012, 09:46:18 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on October 11, 2012, 09:49:03 PM
My nephew used my Custom Rem .243 last year and shot his muley buck at 367 yards with my handload of 95gn Berger VLD"s with 40 gns of H4895 and the buck just humped up and walked out to 404 before i reset the turret to 400 and he dropped him with the 2nd shot. Both bullets were within 3 inches of eachother right in the boiler room.
Post by: bradslam on October 11, 2012, 10:04:28 PM
243 is way plenty for whitetail.
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
I can only hope you are joking about the .257 Roberts not being adequate for white-tail.
he is razzing huntbear..... :nono: :nono: messing up this good thread.....
I think if modern doesn't open soon everyone is gonna implode around here
OK. I feel better now. I was about to implode myself. BOB RULES!
Post by: mallard79 on October 11, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
Post by: Huntbear on October 11, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
243 is way plenty for whitetail.
Any round in that neighborhood (with the obvious exception of the 257 Roberts) ;) is fine.
I can only hope you are joking about the .257 Roberts not being adequate for white-tail.
he is razzing huntbear..... :nono: :nono: messing up this good thread.....
I think if modern doesn't open soon everyone is gonna implode around here
OK. I feel better now. I was about to implode myself. BOB RULES!
And the Improved version is even better..... :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: flinter on October 11, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 12, 2012, 12:30:12 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 12, 2012, 03:03:49 AM
Post by: novice870 on October 12, 2012, 07:20:42 AM
I took my little man out again last night to shoot...the confidence factor is definitely present. He is anxious to shoot his gun, and out of 10 rounds, he pulled two and both times told me what he had done before I could look through the spotting scope. I think his shot placement will be there. Also, (this may have been overkill) but I had him go through one of my hunting mags and tack a black sharpie and put an X on where he would put the crosshairs on each deer. I just wanted him to get used to seeing a deer "target" and thinking about shot placement. He came running in when he was done and we looked at each one...he was money! And it was actually really fun for both of us!
Bring on the real thing!!!!
Again, thanks!
Matt
Post by: DeKuma on October 12, 2012, 07:49:49 AM
Again, thank for all of the feedback! I really do appreciate when someone takes the time to reply...even with all of the crazy tangents and "implodes" recently on here, this site is really a great resource.Do the same thing with my wife. She is getting pretty good at it. Noticed our deer calendar has sharpie marks on the deer now too!
I took my little man out again last night to shoot...the confidence factor is definitely present. He is anxious to shoot his gun, and out of 10 rounds, he pulled two and both times told me what he had done before I could look through the spotting scope. I think his shot placement will be there. Also, (this may have been overkill) but I had him go through one of my hunting mags and tack a black sharpie and put an X on where he would put the crosshairs on each deer. I just wanted him to get used to seeing a deer "target" and thinking about shot placement. He came running in when he was done and we looked at each one...he was money! And it was actually really fun for both of us!
Bring on the real thing!!!!
Again, thanks!
Matt
Post by: huntnphool on October 12, 2012, 09:18:03 AM
My daughter shoots the same 140gr. Partition out of her 7mm-08 as I do out of my 7mm RM but substantially less felt recoil. ;)
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 12, 2012, 09:29:44 AM
Post by: novice870 on October 12, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
One more thing to think about in the years to come novice870. The .243 is a great caliber and one that is easily found in youth/compact sizes. If you ever feel the need to move the young man up to a larger bullet but don't want the added recoil as he gets a little older, the .243, 7mm-08 and .308 all utilize the same cartridge. They are all based on the .308 case, just necked down from .308 to 7mm (.284) and 6mm (.243). Very much similar load/recoil as the .243 but able to move up in bullet weight.
My daughter shoots the same 140gr. Partition out of her 7mm-08 as I do out of my 7mm RM but substantially less felt recoil. ;)
Stupid question but, the felt recoil is from the grains of powder not the bullet weight, right? So to move from a .243 to 7mm-08 would allow for a larger bullet weight (100 to 140 for example) but not significantly more grains of powder and therefore slightly more recoil? Am I tracking?
Post by: Holg3107 on October 12, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
Post by: snowshoes22 on October 12, 2012, 09:48:49 AM
Post by: Gamblin Guy on October 12, 2012, 09:59:52 AM
My daughter and I are headed out tonight for her first hunt this weekend and she'll be shooting a Remington 700 in 6mm with Hornady's 95 gr SST. The gun was given to her by a good friend who shot numerous deer and elk with it over the years.
Good luck to your son.
Post by: blacktailcody on October 12, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 12, 2012, 12:16:52 PM
Correct, and if you get into reloading you can even get it down to zero difference in felt recoil depending on your loads.One more thing to think about in the years to come novice870. The .243 is a great caliber and one that is easily found in youth/compact sizes. If you ever feel the need to move the young man up to a larger bullet but don't want the added recoil as he gets a little older, the .243, 7mm-08 and .308 all utilize the same cartridge. They are all based on the .308 case, just necked down from .308 to 7mm (.284) and 6mm (.243). Very much similar load/recoil as the .243 but able to move up in bullet weight.
My daughter shoots the same 140gr. Partition out of her 7mm-08 as I do out of my 7mm RM but substantially less felt recoil. ;)
Stupid question but, the felt recoil is from the grains of powder not the bullet weight, right? So to move from a .243 to 7mm-08 would allow for a larger bullet weight (100 to 140 for example) but not significantly more grains of powder and therefore slightly more recoil? Am I tracking?
My grandmother used a .243 for years in Montana while I was growing up, she killed two moose, several elk and loads of deer with it before handing that same gun down to my brother that killed those two muleys in the pictures with it, and many more too.
Post by: novice870 on October 12, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
How cool that you come from a hunting heritage where even your grandmother hunted! That is just awesome. I am jealous.
Matt