Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Bird Dogs => Topic started by: BIGINNER on October 19, 2012, 08:10:45 AM
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OK, HERE'S THE STORY. I LOVE HUNTING, AND I LOVE SPENDING TIME WITH MY KID. MY KID LOVES HUNTING, BUT I CAN'T TAKE HIM UPLAND BIRD HUNTING WITH ME BECAUSE HE CAN'T WALK THROUGH BRUSH VERY WELL.... SO HE BAWLS HIS EYES OUT EVERYTIME I GO HUNTING BECAUSE HE CAN'T GO. HE WENT DOVE HUNTING WITH ME AND HE LOVED IT BECAUSE WE SIT IN ONE SPOT WAITING FOR BIRDS. AND NO WALKING AROUND.
SO I WANT TO GET INTO DUCK HUNTING A BIT MORE SO I CAN TAKE MY KID WITH ME,
AS HARD AS IT IS FOR ME. I AM THINKING ABOUT SELLING MY WEIMARANERS AND GETTING A LAB PUP FOR NEXT SEASON SO I CAN DO MORE DUCK HUNTING.
SO IF I AM GOING TO GET A LAB, I WANT TO GET A GOOD ONE FROM A GOOD BREEDER AND GOOD LINES. I MOST LIKELY WON'T BUY A PUP UNTILL RIGHT AFTER THE SEASON, BUT I THINK IT WON'T HURT TO START LOOKING. :)
ANU SUGJESTIONS?
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if your that determined to make room for a lab so you can go duck hunting next season, it would benefit you greatly to go with a started/finished dog, it would make for a good headstart.
even if you picked up a puppy right now, you wouldn't be able to do a whole lot of hunting with it next season. many young dogs can get burnt out in the cold very quickly.
are you giving the Weims the boot before or after your bitch drops her pups?
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if your that determined to make room for a lab so you can go duck hunting next season, it would benefit you greatly to go with a started/finished dog, it would make for a good headstart.
even if you picked up a puppy right now, you wouldn't be able to do a whole lot of hunting with it next season. many young dogs can get burnt out in the cold very quickly.
are you giving the Weims the boot before or after your bitch drops her pups?
way after. at the end of the season. might keep the bitch most likely. i like her alot. but then i like all of them.. lol
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i was actually thinking about getting a started dog,.. but don't know how a started dog will bond with my kid?.. :dunno:
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i was actually thinking about getting a started dog,.. but don't know how a started dog will bond with my kid?.. :dunno:
never under estimate a dogs ability to bond with someone who gives it food, shelter, and friendship.
you got to remember most started dogs are still just pups themselves. they are just a little older and bigger. they go from living outdoors in a kennel to being part of your family. bonding should be the least of your worries.
if your worried about it biting your kid, this would be an excellent time to teach your youngin' how to mind his manners around strange dogs.
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kingsland labradores, I've breed my female with her stud dog twice and recieved some very good pups. She has been in the business for over 30 years and only sells chocholate labs, they are located in puyallup. 253-845-1311 Her name is Teresa.
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mallard lakle kennels in granit falls , great field pups
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so how much should i expect to pay for a good started lab?
as for the bonding thing.... now that i think about it, most of my dogs i had i got when they were older, and they all bonded great with my kid. and he takes care of the dogs really good. i have to keep an eye on him though because he likes to overfeed the dogs. :chuckle:
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so how much should i expect to pay for a good started lab?
depending on the breeding and level of training it has been through I would say $1200.00 on the very low side and $2400.00 being the average.
even at $2k a many started dogs or semi finished dog are trained at a level that most hunters never reach, and can be an absolute bargain. especially when you take into account all the food, time, and resources that went into that dog.
most decent pups these days have a price tag at around $1000 so paying twice that much for a dog you can test drive -and know for sure it will be an awesome hunter right out the gate- just makes a lot of sense in the world of gun dog investments.
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I have heard nothing but good things about wind river labs. they usually have a few started dogs to choose from
http://www.windriverlabs.com/wind_river_websi_000005.htm (http://www.windriverlabs.com/wind_river_websi_000005.htm)
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You can easily get by without a dog for duck hunting, but upland birds, not so much, especially pheasants. I'd keep the Weimaraner and skip the lab for now. Spend the money on a boat instead.
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You can easily get by without a dog for duck hunting, but upland birds, not so much, especially pheasants. I'd keep the Weimaraner and skip the lab for now. Spend the money on a boat instead.
:yeah:
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You can easily get by without a dog for duck hunting, but upland birds, not so much, especially pheasants. I'd keep the Weimaraner and skip the lab for now. Spend the money on a boat instead.
:yeah:
duck hunting sucks anyway.
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You can easily get by without a dog for duck hunting, but upland birds, not so much, especially pheasants. I'd keep the Weimaraner and skip the lab for now. Spend the money on a boat instead.
i'm just going to downsize to one weimaraner. boat is a good idea. with or without a lab
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One other thing that I saw suggested and am going to try myself at some point is using a fishing pole to retrieve ducks that go down in water too deep to wade in.
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dont over look german wire hair pointers , they are great pups
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I was always under the impression that weimers were water dogs to :dunno:
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I was always under the impression that weimers were water dogs to :dunno:
During the summer when its 100 degrees outside they are great water dogs. But during duck season they're great at cuddleing next to you in the kind and saying f-you when there's a duck down
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I know several breeders in WA. Nicely bred pups with health clearances are around$1200-$1500 now days. Started dogs are priced based on truing force fetched and collar conditioned dogs are around $2500 + while dogs that have started running cold blinds are around $4000 +. that sounds pricey but if sent to a pro you figure pup $1200 6 months minimum with pro at 700/ month $4200. cheaper then a bass boat! We will have a litter in the spring and currently have a started dog for ideas you can look at www.rattlingridgelabs.com (http://www.rattlingridgelabs.com) we know several great breeders when your ready