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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: seansfire on October 20, 2012, 10:18:44 AM


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Title: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: seansfire on October 20, 2012, 10:18:44 AM
I was told by a freind that a person convicted of a felony IS  allowed to have possesion of and hunt with a muzzleloader. Wondering if anyone on here would have any idea if it is true or not.

Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: Curly on October 20, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
I believe that in this state a ML is considered to be a firearm.  So, in this state, a felon technically cannot hunt with a ML.  Hopefully someone will chime-in with some links and facts to back it up, but that is how I understand it.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: Bean Counter on October 20, 2012, 10:36:05 AM
I dont know about the muzzleloader question but I do know someone who had his rights restored after a felony conviction. It takes time and an attorney but it can be done. I oppose the felony gun prohibition so I would encourage you or 'your friend' to pursue the topic if it interests you.  Take care.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 20, 2012, 10:44:02 AM
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.010 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.010)
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.040 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.040)
My guess is no.  The state prohibits it.  Legal at a federal level if it is antique or replica (not the modern inlines).  But WA state just says 'no firearms' on the felon-possession part, eventhough it has 'antique firearms' in the definitions part...but since they don't specify--antique firearms ARE firearms for WA.  I could be wrong...but you can bore yourself with the links I put up.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: Bob33 on October 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
No. A muzzleloader ts considered a firearm in Washington.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: ellensburgpo on October 20, 2012, 10:54:01 AM
No. A muzzleloader ts considered a firearm in Washington.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: howlow on October 20, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
U do not need a federal background check to purchase so it is legal to hunt with for a felon
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: ICEMAN on October 20, 2012, 08:10:42 PM
U do not need a federal background check to purchase so it is legal to hunt with for a felon

Not  true. It is illegal for a convicted felon who has not had their right restored to even touch a muzzle loader.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: ellensburgpo on October 20, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
U do not need a federal background check to purchase so it is legal to hunt with for a felon

WRONG
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: wannabhntr on October 20, 2012, 08:37:55 PM
Taken from WDFW web site:

Can a felon possess or use a muzzleloader, rifle, handgun, or shotgun for hunting?
 
No, unless the felon has had his/her right-to-bear-arms restored through a state superior court. If the felon’s rights have been restored, he/she can use muzzleloaders, rifles, handguns, and shotguns to hunt. But if the felon has not had his/her firearm rights restored, then he/she cannot possess a handgun, shotgun, muzzleloader, or rifle.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: mr user on October 20, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
Taken from WDFW web site:

Can a felon possess or use a muzzleloader, rifle, handgun, or shotgun for hunting?
 
No, unless the felon has had his/her right-to-bear-arms restored through a state superior court. If the felon’s rights have been restored, he/she can use muzzleloaders, rifles, handguns, and shotguns to hunt. But if the felon has not had his/her firearm rights restored, then he/she cannot possess a handgun, shotgun, muzzleloader, or rifle.
So I guess it is legal for a felon to bowhunt?
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: ellensburgpo on October 20, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 20, 2012, 08:55:05 PM

So I guess it is legal for a felon to bowhunt?

For Washington I believe that is the case.  Some states instead of saying 'firearms' in their law for something a felon can't possess say 'dangerous weapons', and I believe I read that sometimes bows fall under that.  I've read before that in states where a felon can use a muzzy they have to use special powder because federal law prohibits them from possessing black powder.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: wannabhntr on October 20, 2012, 09:00:30 PM
I think somewhere in the RCW's it says something about any weapon capable of firing a lead projectile. I can't find it right now but I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: Bob33 on October 20, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
Taken from WDFW web site:

Can a felon possess or use a muzzleloader, rifle, handgun, or shotgun for hunting?
 
No, unless the felon has had his/her right-to-bear-arms restored through a state superior court. If the felon’s rights have been restored, he/she can use muzzleloaders, rifles, handguns, and shotguns to hunt. But if the felon has not had his/her firearm rights restored, then he/she cannot possess a handgun, shotgun, muzzleloader, or rifle.
So I guess it is legal for a felon to bowhunt?
Yes.
Title: Re: Legal Question ???????????
Post by: seansfire on October 21, 2012, 04:56:06 PM
i found that i am legal to bowhunt but wasnt sure about the muzzleloader thing as the way it was explained to me it is considered a primitive weapon or something. i am good to bowhunt as i dont want anything to do with the courts or lawyers after my divorce recently.

i truly appreciate you guys taking the time to post about this.
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