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Title: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: wannabhntr on October 22, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
Does you use FMJ or do you prefer hollow points? I'm shooting a .223 and I currently shoot FMJ. Just wondering if they are truly effective for coyote hunting.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: JohnVH on October 22, 2012, 09:32:11 AM
depends, do you want to tan the hides? Do you use FMJ's for deer?
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: wannabhntr on October 22, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
I would like to have a full body mount done one of these days. I have no plan of tanning though. I do not use FMJ for deer. I'm a little slow so you have to forgive me. Are you saying FMJ's are not effective?
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 09:54:33 AM
.22LR will take down a coyote with little hide damage.
If you just want to kill them .223 FMJ is perfect.
Title: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: eburkett on October 22, 2012, 09:57:21 AM
Nah gotta use .338wm for minimal hide damage. ;)
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Huntbear on October 22, 2012, 10:03:41 AM
Varmint Grenades!!!!   :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
Nah gotta use .338wm for minimal hide damage. ;)
That would skin them for you for sure  :yike:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 22, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
In reference to the thread title:

YES, as many as possible................ :mgun:


My current coyote gun is a Marlin .22 mag.  Very effective, minimal to no pelt damage, deadly out to 100 yards or a little farther with no worries.  Being on the westside, few shots farther than 30-50 yards when calling.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: JohnVH on October 22, 2012, 10:22:24 AM
I would like to have a full body mount done one of these days. I have no plan of tanning though. I do not use FMJ for deer. I'm a little slow so you have to forgive me. Are you saying FMJ's are not effective?

My point is, do you want to blow a big hole and kill it asap, then use a hollow point or the like, if you want to not make a mess of the hide, use an FMJ.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 22, 2012, 10:23:59 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: wannabhntr on October 22, 2012, 10:29:33 AM
I would like to have a full body mount done one of these days. I have no plan of tanning though. I do not use FMJ for deer. I'm a little slow so you have to forgive me. Are you saying FMJ's are not effective?

My point is, do you want to blow a big hole and kill it asap, then use a hollow point or the like, if you want to not make a mess of the hide, use an FMJ.
 
Thank you. That's what I was looking for. I don't really care about the hole. I just want a quick kill.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 22, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
I would like to have a full body mount done one of these days. I have no plan of tanning though. I do not use FMJ for deer. I'm a little slow so you have to forgive me. Are you saying FMJ's are not effective?

My point is, do you want to blow a big hole and kill it asap, then use a hollow point or the like, if you want to not make a mess of the hide, use an FMJ.
 
Thank you. That's what I was looking for. I don't really care about the hole. I just want a quick kill.

If you are wanting to do a mount one day, the smaller the exit hole will make for less work for the taxidermist and a better looking mount.  A compromise between the explosive HP and the non-expanding FMJ may be an off-the shelf, standard hunting bullet.  Should offer some various degrees of expansion, depending on range (to allievate worries of a not-so-quick kill),  yet not so much pelt damage that it could ruin an otherwise nice hide for mounting.

Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Special T on October 22, 2012, 11:02:30 AM
Since you hunt E wa i would say its ok to use FMJ. My bro in law uses his AR with FMJ just aim for the front sholder and your good. Seen him shoot several in the boiler maker that just spin then die.... I use FMJ for my 06 and all i have to do in knick them and they are down!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: blacktailcody on October 22, 2012, 11:40:57 AM
If you want a quick kill use 50.bmg varment grenades.(I don't even know if they make them but it sounds cool.)
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: MadHatter on October 22, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
I use soft point 180gr .308 rounds, or for my .22-250 the 55gr V-max rounds... Either way, puts them down hard but absolutely destroys the pelt. 

I did shoot a dog with a 150gr FMJ from my .308 at 160yds and the bullet zipped through the dog so fast it just stood there for about 20sec, then started to walk off and fell over... I am not even sure it knew what happened, but it was the craziest looking thing, I was sitting there watching him ready to put another round in him and figured I would see how it played out... Then he face planted...

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Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: bearmanric on October 22, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
I hunt around the best coyote hunters. Predatormasters hunt and others. Every one uses vmax's in there ar's. I use vmax's in my ar's and seirria boatail hollow points in my 22-250.  Dont use silver ballistic tips big hole. Rick
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 12:53:18 PM
I use soft point 180gr .308 rounds, or for my .22-250 the 55gr V-max rounds... Either way, puts them down hard but absolutely destroys the pelt. 

You don't mess around, that's some serious artillery for a yote.  :tup:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: wraithen on October 22, 2012, 01:31:21 PM
those sierras are awesome. fly like fmj but with less ricochet potential
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 22, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
I use the cheapest 223 ammo I can buy. I don't save hides and don't care if they suffer if the get winged. Not a high priority on my list.  :tup:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 22, 2012, 01:53:06 PM
There's a poster worthy statement for PETA, Humane Society of US, etc.  Just what they try to sell all hunters as...
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
There's a poster worthy statement for PETA, Humane Society of US, etc.  Just what they try to sell all hunters as...
:yeah: I must agree. It's a quick, clean kill or else I don't take the shot.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 22, 2012, 02:04:37 PM
Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Wazukie on October 22, 2012, 02:05:24 PM
I use the 40gr v-max in the .223 and the 55gr BT's in the .243, kills um dead as long as I do my part  :)
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 02:09:18 PM
Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.
It's not about giving in. They are powerful groups trying to take our rights away. We need to take the high road and show that we are responsible and humane. Not judging you at all, I hate them as much as you do.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 22, 2012, 02:32:16 PM
Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.
It's not about giving in. They are powerful groups trying to take our rights away. We need to take the high road and show that we are responsible and humane. Not judging you at all, I hate them as much as you do.

I know. I just say it like I see it. Actually, the PETA, ELF type groups are terrorists in my mind. I worked on a " green housing development " near Woodenville a few years ago and ELF burnt the million dollar houses down because they said they weren't using all green materials. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth for commie groups like that.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Special T on October 22, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
Just take your .223 FMJ and hit em in the shoulder, down they go.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 02:39:34 PM
Just take your .223 FMJ and hit em in the shoulder, down they go.  :twocents:
:yeah:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.
It's not about giving in. They are powerful groups trying to take our rights away. We need to take the high road and show that we are responsible and humane. Not judging you at all, I hate them as much as you do.

I know. I just say it like I see it. Actually, the PETA, ELF type groups are terrorists in my mind. I worked on a " green housing development " near Woodenville a few years ago and ELF burnt the million dollar houses down because they said they weren't using all green materials. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth for commie groups like that.
Yep, there is no reason for that kind of terrorism.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 22, 2012, 02:56:21 PM
Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.
It's not about giving in. They are powerful groups trying to take our rights away. We need to take the high road and show that we are responsible and humane. Not judging you at all, I hate them as much as you do.

Exactly, but there is no room to complain or argue when they use tactics like "All hunters are thrill killer's," or "They kill and wound and cause needless suffering without any regard."  Has nothing to do with bowing down or giving in, its about keeping as positive and professional an image as possible instead of making ill-thought out  statements on a public forum that help to validate their propaganda in the eyes of the non-hunting community.


Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Special T on October 22, 2012, 03:00:47 PM
While i agree it is best to "put our best fooot forward", it also that mindset of accomodation that has screwed our sport.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Gringo31 on October 22, 2012, 03:03:37 PM
Back to the topic at hand.....

I would not encourage anyone to use FMJ.  The recovery on dogs hit well is....well, a pain.  I've seen too many dogs get hit behind the shoulder, do a spin and then run through the sage requiring some tracking to recover.

IMHO, I prefer 55g JHP and put in on the shoulder.  No exit and bang flop.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 03:03:55 PM
While i agree it is best to "put our best fooot forward", it also that mindset of accomodation that has screwed our sport.
I see no need to accommodate. All it takes is good sportsmanship and they will have nothing to say. I don't think we are giving in by acting responsibly.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 22, 2012, 03:04:50 PM
Back to the topic at hand.....

I would not encourage anyone to use FMJ.  The recovery on dogs hit well is....well, a pain.  I've seen too many dogs get hit behind the shoulder, do a spin and then run through the sage requiring some tracking to recover.

IMHO, I prefer 55g JHP and put in on the shoulder.  No exit and bang flop.
Right, sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. I digress.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 22, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
Don't care about PETA or any other communist groups like that. They can all go to hell. I'm not controlled by anyone or group, but that's the way I am. I won't succumb to their ideas or lower myself to appease people or groups just for media appeal. I think people and groups are spineless that do.
It's not about giving in. They are powerful groups trying to take our rights away. We need to take the high road and show that we are responsible and humane. Not judging you at all, I hate them as much as you do.

Exactly, but there is no room to complain or argue when they use tactics like "All hunters are thrill killer's," or "They kill and wound and cause needless suffering without any regard."  Has nothing to do with bowing down or giving in, its about keeping as positive and professional an image as possible instead of making ill-thought out  statements on a public forum that help to validate their propaganda in the eyes of the non-hunting community.

All of my thoughts are well thought out because I don't follow PETAs rules or anybody elses. People forget, coyotes are predators and don't care about chasing down a deer and torturing it and leaving it for dead. PETA is not the boss of hunters. Hunters are afraid of any and all groups like PETA just for the reason you stated, propaganda. They use it against us and we ( hunters ) don't have deep pockets to fight pukes like that. I'm just being honest and that's what I do.  :tup:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: wannabhntr on October 22, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
Back to the topic at hand.....

I would not encourage anyone to use FMJ.  The recovery on dogs hit well is....well, a pain.  I've seen too many dogs get hit behind the shoulder, do a spin and then run through the sage requiring some tracking to recover.

IMHO, I prefer 55g JHP and put in on the shoulder.  No exit and bang flop.
Thanks Gringo. Will the two bullets shoot the same or will I have to start from scratch if I decide to switch?
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: KyleMB123 on October 22, 2012, 03:27:56 PM
I was thinking about taking my AKMS out next time I try to call in some coyotes. I use 122gr FMJs. Will that put the buggers down? I figure because it's such a large round the fact that it's FMJ won't matter too much, and I will have 29 follow up shots just in case.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: dannysdaddy on October 22, 2012, 03:38:03 PM
I have shot them with FMJ's but they can take a couple shots.  i like the hornaday v-max's.  they stoot well out of my rifle and hit hard. :twocents:
Title: Re: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: MadHatter on October 22, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
I use soft point 180gr .308 rounds, or for my .22-250 the 55gr V-max rounds... Either way, puts them down hard but absolutely destroys the pelt. 

You don't mess around, that's some serious artillery for a yote.  :tup:

Nope... I don't save hides, and 308 is cheaper than 22-250 for the most part. Plus I normally have 6 boxes or so hanging around from deer and elk because I usually buy a case in July or so, do my sight in, confirm my tables out to 500 then hunting is really no more than maybe 5 rounds if you can't shoot worth a crap.. So I use up the rest on yotes... Will probably get a case of 22-250 for coyote madness though. For me it's all about the one shot kill and as long as I can hit the target its going to be killed.

One problem I run into though is that a yote doesn't provide quite enough to mass for the round to expand all the way. So while it transfers enough energy to kill the sucker dead as a door nail, its still only expanding about 50% of what it would in a deer or elk. Now, I get two yotes standing side by side and you can definitely double with one shot :-)

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Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Brownie28 on October 22, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
While i agree it is best to "put our best fooot forward", it also that mindset of accomodation that has screwed our sport.
I see no need to accommodate. All it takes is good sportsmanship and they will have nothing to say. I don't think we are giving in by acting responsibly.

Good sportsmanship is not enough these a$$holes don't care about ethics sportsmanship clean kills. The fact that u own a gun and hunt with it is all they need to know to hate u and want to protest and ban everything hunting and Hunting related. Apologize and accommodate for nobody!!
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Special T on October 23, 2012, 07:23:27 AM
If they can't find a hunter to put through the wringer they will use a "poacher" and call him a hunter.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 23, 2012, 07:34:42 AM
I use soft point 180gr .308 rounds, or for my .22-250 the 55gr V-max rounds... Either way, puts them down hard but absolutely destroys the pelt. 

You don't mess around, that's some serious artillery for a yote.  :tup:

Nope... I don't save hides, and 308 is cheaper than 22-250 for the most part. Plus I normally have 6 boxes or so hanging around from deer and elk because I usually buy a case in July or so, do my sight in, confirm my tables out to 500 then hunting is really no more than maybe 5 rounds if you can't shoot worth a crap.. So I use up the rest on yotes... Will probably get a case of 22-250 for coyote madness though. For me it's all about the one shot kill and as long as I can hit the target its going to be killed.

One problem I run into though is that a yote doesn't provide quite enough to mass for the round to expand all the way. So while it transfers enough energy to kill the sucker dead as a door nail, its still only expanding about 50% of what it would in a deer or elk. Now, I get two yotes standing side by side and you can definitely double with one shot :-)

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I shouldn't really say much, I'm going to use my .50 muzzy to help up our points. Should make quite a mess of a yote.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: magnanimous_j on October 23, 2012, 07:48:07 AM
I was thinking about taking my AKMS out next time I try to call in some coyotes. I use 122gr FMJs. Will that put the buggers down? I figure because it's such a large round the fact that it's FMJ won't matter too much, and I will have 29 follow up shots just in case.

It should be fine. I tagged one with my Yugo AK from about 40 yards out and it went right down.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: VarmintVentilator on October 23, 2012, 02:07:38 PM
wannabhntr,  Even if they're the same weight bullet, (fmj or hp) it's best to check zero.  Each bullet flys a little different.

Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Special T on October 23, 2012, 02:25:29 PM
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: wannabhntr on October 23, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
Thanks again for all the info guys.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: VarmintVentilator on October 23, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

Put an apple on a fence post at 300 yds. and I'll show you the difference.  Even at 200 and 100.   :chuckle:  Ya SOMETIMES there can be 2 inches difference at a 100 yds with different bullets.  Remember he shoots 223 not an 06.  I agree with Gringo, hp's are better with that caliber.  :hello:   
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Bofire on October 23, 2012, 06:53:32 PM
 :) 223 vmaxs kill em good at 55 grain from my 223, my experience is they make big holes. I use Hornady soft point 223/55 grain, kills good small hole. fmj's in my guns have never shot very acurately, do not kill for crap, lots of runners, have heard they ricochet bad :dunno:
In my 243 I like 80-85 grain, soft point and TSX.
Shot a few with a .22 LR, better be very close and get a good shot opportunity, certainly a VERY low percentage round.

Whole deal depends on your mid set, what is acceptable to you?, I am not out calling to screw around, I want them dead, now, and move on.
Carl
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: FALFire on October 23, 2012, 06:57:29 PM
:) 223 vmaxs kill em good at 55 grain from my 223, my experience is they make big holes. I use Hornady soft point 223/55 grain, kills good small hole. fmj's in my guns have never shot very acurately, do not kill for crap, lots of runners, have heard they ricochet bad :dunno:
In my 243 I like 80-85 grain, soft point and TSX.
Shot a few with a .22 LR, better be very close and get a good shot opportunity, certainly a VERY low percentage round.

Whole deal depends on your mid set, what is acceptable to you?, I am not out calling to screw around, I want them dead, now, and move on.
Carl


Yeah....What he said!!  :yike:       


 :hello:
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Special T on October 23, 2012, 07:53:11 PM
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

Put an apple on a fence post at 300 yds. and I'll show you the difference.  Even at 200 and 100.   :chuckle:  Ya SOMETIMES there can be 2 inches difference at a 100 yds with different bullets.  Remember he shoots 223 not an 06.  I agree with Gringo, hp's are better with that caliber.  :hello:

2 in aimed center mass still equals dead coyote... HP will  put them down quicker in that caliber sure... but we still have used FMJ in the bro inlaws AR and it gets the job done...
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: FALFire on October 24, 2012, 06:31:30 AM
wannabhntr,

You would be better served by knowing rather than guessing on bullet placement, every rife is different as is every brand/design of bullet. I have had several inches of variation between point of impact by simply switching from Nosler to Hornady both being 55 grain Polymer tipped bullets even though you would think they would shoot to the same point of aim. It has to due with many variables in the bullet construction and design. If someone gets a two inch point of impact difference at 100 yards for deer hunting it will not make much difference in killing of the animal but a two inch POI on a coyote can make all the difference in the world in bang flops or runners. 

Feel more confident in your equipment by taking the guess work out of the equation.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 24, 2012, 06:35:22 AM
wannabhntr,

You would be better served by knowing rather than guessing on bullet placement, every rife is different as is every brand/design of bullet. I have had several inches of variation between point of impact by simply switching from Nosler to Hornady both being 55 grain Polymer tipped bullets even though you would think they would shoot to the same point of aim. It has to due with many variables in the bullet construction and design. If someone gets a two inch point of impact difference at 100 yards for deer hunting it will not make much difference in killing of the animal but a two inch POI on a coyote can make all the difference in the world in bang flops or runners. 

Feel more confident in your equipment by taking the guess work out of the equation.
:yeah:....Pick a bullet and propellent combination based on the advise given and stick with it.
Then shoot it until you can achieve a tight group consistently. Shoot the yote in the shoulder and it's all over! 
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: FALFire on October 24, 2012, 06:39:57 AM
I love your Sig line  :tup:


"I have two lines you should never cross.....Horizontal and Vertical"
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Jingles on October 24, 2012, 06:47:13 AM
While it is hard to say what is going to work best for you and your rifle I reload my own bullets and what works best in my nail driving 22-250 Sako is Sierra 50 gr spitzers pushed by 37 grains of IMR 4064 using federal 210 primers. 2 inches high @100 yards gives me a hold on target, MPBR (maximum point blank range)out to 365 yards cover 5 shots at 100 yards with a dime so it would all depend on what gives you the most accuracy from your particular rifle.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: scout/sniper on October 24, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
I love your Sig line  :tup:


"I have two lines you should never cross.....Horizontal and Vertical"
Lol, thanks.
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: cowlitzkiller on October 24, 2012, 11:18:47 AM
FMJ's more often than not will squirt right on through a thin-skinned animal like a coyote and not do enough damage to put the animal down humanely and will usually require follow-up shots.  Hollow points go in small and usually rip a hole big enough for your fist on the other side if they don't hit something solid.  There are lots of in-between style bullets that hold together pretty well.  I would suggest the Hornady V-Max in a 52 grain.  And although they are technically hollow points, I really like the Berger 50 & 52 grain bullets.  I shoot those in my .223 and .22-250 with really good results as far as kill and minimal pelt damage.  You're always going to get one that blows out here and there, but overall those two bullets hold together pretty well.

This is just my  :twocents:   Everyone has theirs as well....
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: WSU on October 24, 2012, 11:24:52 AM
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

Put an apple on a fence post at 300 yds. and I'll show you the difference.  Even at 200 and 100.   :chuckle:  Ya SOMETIMES there can be 2 inches difference at a 100 yds with different bullets.  Remember he shoots 223 not an 06.  I agree with Gringo, hp's are better with that caliber.  :hello:

Not at 250 yards it doesn't.  I had your idea with my .300 and bought cheap rounds for shooting yotes.  They were a good 3 inches different at 100 yards, meaning at 200 I couldn't count on them to even hit the yote, let alone hit it somewhere good.

2 in aimed center mass still equals dead coyote... HP will  put them down quicker in that caliber sure... but we still have used FMJ in the bro inlaws AR and it gets the job done...
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: Kowsrule30 on October 30, 2012, 01:39:15 PM
When I run into them it's usually a 100 gr Honady BTSP... It can make a mess though... Or my 50 cal 295 gr PB from the muzzy.... Those really make a mess.... 
Title: Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
Post by: drysideshooter on October 31, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

I also occasionally use an 06 on yotes, mostly because Barnes makes a sold 1656gr bullet that shoots to about the same point of aim as the 168 grain Barnes that I typically shoot in an 06.  Most of the time I use an AR shooting 55gr Sierra Gamekings, or a 22-250 shooting 50 or 55 grain bullets.

When you have yotes that are hanging up at 400 yards or more I think an 06 is a great choice.  At 400 yards a 165 grain bullet shot from an 06 (around 3,000 fps at the muzzle) has as much energy as a 22-250 shooting a 50 grain bullet (around 3,900 fps) has at the muzzle.  Depending on where my son and I are hunting, we often times make sure one of us has an 06 for long pokes. 
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