Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: highmuley on October 23, 2012, 04:52:48 AM
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So last day of our hunt. My wife and kids wanted to tour the mountain one more time before we left. We drove around to the backside of the mountain and turned around. I noticed a murder of ravens circling. I decided to investigate. I hiked in a couple hundred yards up the hillside and....found a 2 point with a bullet hole in it! I looked further up the hill and seen MORE ravens on the ground. I hiked in another 100 yards and found a second 2 point shot and wasted!! :bash: :bash: :bash: I hunt in a 3 point minimum unit. Not only did these a$$holes kill two illegal deer but they wasted 100% of the meat! If a person is going to poach at least take the damn meat! :bash: oh! And I didn't get a deer either but I'm glad someone was able to sight in their rifle on next years crop!
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hate em TOO
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Too bad there were apparently no witnesses! I would report the location to the local warden or to the poaching hotline. Wardens can sometimes put a case together with evidence the average person didn't notice or by contacting hunters who were in the area. :twocents:
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hate em TOO
:yeah:
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I stopped at a gate yesterday with 6 carcasses at it. Two decent sized fully skinned/processed bucks, a button Buck that probably weighed 60lbs live, a fawn skeleton, a carcass with the legs and about 25% of the body meat taken and a fully skinned carcass that was only missing some of the backstraps and antlers. Pissed me off to no end.
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Same here, saw a doe get shot and the hunter blaze off. Warden just wrote the info down and left for the day
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My hunting trip ended with zero deer, but it sounds like there was a lot of this same thing going on in the area we hunted in. Actually saw a game warden and asked how many poachers he'd caught during the week. He said he found 2 dead/wasted 2-pointers, dead elk (the person tried to get away with it like it was a 3pt deer) and multiple violations.
Lot of game animals wasted last week I fear.
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Found this headless elk carcass and salmon carcass's last week but had the camera with me yesterday. Just a few miles west of the Hood Canal bridge where there are no elk. :bash: :bash: Probably shouldn't post it but like everyone else if really pisses me off when an animal is wasted.
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On Sunday We saw a dead elk on the side of the road missing its head. Looked like it had just happened the night before. Such a waste! :bash: Unfortunately we see it every year where we hunt. Poaching seems like it's getting out of control. >:( It's no wonder we've been out in the woods now for several days without seeing a single animal. That's because these *censored* bags come in and shoot them illegally! :bash:
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I could understand if you're poor/hungry and need the meat for the family, but to just shoot and waste is just wrong. Even the people who shoot an off limits deer (does, etc) - if you take it and own up to a game warden 90% of the time they'll notch your tag and tell you that mistakes happen. It's viewed as more of a crime to kill and waste a big game animal than it is to just make a mistake when you could've sworn that branch was a third point.
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I could understand if you're poor/hungry and need the meat for the family, but to just shoot and waste is just wrong. Even the people who shoot an off limits deer (does, etc) - if you take it and own up to a game warden 90% of the time they'll notch your tag and tell you that mistakes happen. It's viewed as more of a crime to kill and waste a big game animal than it is to just make a mistake when you could've sworn that branch was a third point.
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it really blows my mind to leave the meat behind.....that is just so wrong and so wasteful, the disposal of carcasses at gates in the road is crude and disgusting but at least the meat was taken....
I am looking at a nearing empty freezer and those people just wasted enough to fill many freezers.... :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Bad enough to thrill kill, but honestly what is it with these awipes who dump carcasses at gates and along the road? You are so lazy you cant drag it into the trees? Are they showing off the prize?
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Can we just declare marshall law on poachers and start shooting them already? The WDFW seems to not give a crap about them. I know they are way underfunded and under staffed but the majority of WDFW officers that I run into seem to be there for a paycheck and not the greater good of our game. :twocents:
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I hate em to. Similar situation I was hiking thru the sage a noticed this buck laying very sill I suck over and this is what I found. Dam poachers if your not sure don't shoot. I most likely passed on numerous 2 points with barely leagle eye guards befor I finally found and harvested a legit legal 3 point.
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With all of these wasted two points, makes me wonder if the three point rule is actually effective in reducing the number of "immature" deer being killed? How about in the four point areas, are people finding poached three pointers?
If they would at least own up to it (anonymously?), the meat could be salvaged.
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I reported 2 headless bucks a couple of weeks ago in Lewis County. How do you find out what the Game dept knows. I gave them my name and number and asked for updates but I havent heard anything. These bucks were 50yds of the paved road in a field, only dead for a couple of days at most.
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Yeah, that sucks... There are lot of HUGE 2 points, and you really need to make sure before you shoot!
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I had this discussion with my GF this weekend.
Hitting a Deer or Elk with a car is and "accident".
Looking through the scope of a high powered rifle and pulling the trigger is NOT! Ever!
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Headless bucks and dead two points are not the same kind of problem. They're both utter BS but what happened isn't the same.
Greedy ashpoles shoot 2 points because they don't want to miss the shot and they can see multiple points. He then finds out he blew it and doesn't want to go down for the crime. He didn't wake up that morning to go out and kill a 2 point, he's just not willing to man up and make sure he never will to begin with. He's not going to take the meat and increase the chance of getting caught for what he'd say is a "mistake". Mistake my #)($.
The guy cutting off the head, he went out either intending to, or completely willing to, kill a critter he knows he can't legally posses. There's no accident there's no I hope I got it right. That guy is out to poach.
The second guy I call a poacher. The first guy is a game rules violater and should be punished but I don't usually call those guys poachers. Semantics, but when we call every rule violation poaching I think it diminishes the real deal. I'm not letting anyone off the hook, 2 point shooters need serious penalties.
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Waste of a nice big animal. Pennsylvania has a point restriction now also, and I'm sure they find dead animals that were mistakenly shot there too. If this deer was a mistake kill and not an actual poach, then I can see why they may have just left it lay. I say that because back in the mid 90's in PA, a hunter mistaked a doe for a buck and shot it. In the hunting regulation it said to report any animal that was mistakenly killed to the local game dept and there would only be a $25 fine. Well, after about $5,000 in lawyer fees, and multiple fines, he finally gave up and plead guilty to it (poaching), and lost his license for a few years. What is the legal action in WA for a mistake kill?
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Giggles - I agree with u on the point of A 2 point being killed, someone could have been scared and let it lay. But, in my original statement...there were TWO 2 points left dead and not consumed within 100 yards of each other. No good
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:bash: pisses me off!
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:bash: pisses me off!
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