Post by: Fishaholic on October 23, 2012, 05:20:55 PM
Post by: Huntbear on October 23, 2012, 05:23:38 PM
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Post by: lokidog on October 23, 2012, 05:26:59 PM
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Post by: lokidog on October 23, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
New scope and see through-rings.
I think the tip-off keeps the scope a little lower than this style.
Post by: lokidog on October 23, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
New scope and see through-rings.
I think the tip-off keeps the scope a little lower than this style.
I have never heard of tip-off's till now. I like them. They look solid. I like that they are integrated into a single base rather than 2 independent rings like I posted above.
:tup:
I've had mine on my Rem 760 30-06 since about 1978. Wasn't actually sure if they even still make them. :)
Post by: Fishaholic on October 23, 2012, 10:43:18 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 23, 2012, 10:52:34 PM
Post by: jackelope on October 23, 2012, 11:06:53 PM
:twocents:
Buy a new scope.
Post by: JoeE on October 24, 2012, 09:01:58 PM
Post by: Fishaholic on October 25, 2012, 11:24:23 AM
in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.
thank you very much, my first hunting rifle was a open sight fn fal. this rem 700 was my first hunting rifle with a scope on it. i think i can hit 200 yards. i can do that with my 22 hitting a pie pan and that has open sights to
Post by: CedarPants on October 25, 2012, 11:26:47 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 25, 2012, 11:29:31 AM
At 200 yards your iron sights will cover a whole deer up. Not sure how you'd get a precise 1 shot kill with iron sights at 200 yards without just plain getting lucky. I'm not much into lucking into a kill shot.
:twocents:
Buy a new scope.
x2 some people think iron sights are an option for longer shots but I think it's ridiculous to use them outside of the brush because, as you said, iron sights cover up a deer at any distance further than 200
Post by: Bean Counter on October 25, 2012, 11:31:03 AM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 25, 2012, 11:37:07 AM
I've personally found its more fun to have a scoped gun and a "brush gun" - that way you get to go gun shopping for a nice level action with iron sights :chuckle:
No hunters arsenal is complete without a scoped rifle for longer ranges and a shorter barreled lever gun for the brush! My Marlin 30-30 with irons is my backup/go-to rifle. Anyone that says they shoot better with iron sights than scope, needs more practice at the range (and in the field) with the scoped rifle.
Excercise the warrantee on your current scope, or buy a better scope. :twocents: Then buy a brush gun with iron/peep sights.
-Steve
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 25, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.
Precise shots on man sized targets? All head shots or something? I find this a bit hard to believe. Most of the 16's and M4's don't group that good at 1500 feet :dunno:
Post by: Fishaholic on October 25, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 25, 2012, 11:41:37 AM
If this the case, your scope has a leak and will need repaired or replaced otherwise you will have this happen again.
If however, by fogging-up, you mean moisture/condensation formed on the outside of your scopes lenses, and could be cleared by wiping them off, then a good set of scope covers like Butler Creek will do wonders to help prevent that. And they are about the same cost as a throw-away type, cheap scope.
Post by: Fishaholic on October 25, 2012, 11:46:17 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 25, 2012, 11:46:47 AM
Post by: snowshoes22 on October 25, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
Post by: Fishaholic on October 25, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
Post by: Wildsau on October 25, 2012, 11:50:09 AM
Post by: JoeE on October 25, 2012, 06:24:59 PM
in the Marine Corps we were making precise shots on man sized targets with iron sights out to 500 yards for the qualification course. 200 yards is easy with practice.
Precise shots on man sized targets? All head shots or something? I find this a bit hard to believe. Most of the 16's and M4's don't group that good at 1500 feet :dunno:
The USMC marksmanship program is widely documented. EVERY SINGLE MARINE that goes through basic training has to hit a man sized target CONSISTENTLY with iron sights at 200, 300 and 500 yards.
Post by: grousetracker on October 25, 2012, 06:38:06 PM
Post by: JoeE on October 25, 2012, 07:38:14 PM
http://www.usmcweapons.com/the-m16a2-qualification-course/ (http://www.usmcweapons.com/the-m16a2-qualification-course/)
Post by: columbiaman on October 26, 2012, 08:47:28 AM
New scope and see through-rings.
nice
Post by: jaymark6655 on October 26, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
What kind of sights are you using!?At 200 yards your iron sights will cover a whole deer up. Not sure how you'd get a precise 1 shot kill with iron sights at 200 yards without just plain getting lucky. I'm not much into lucking into a kill shot.
:twocents:
Buy a new scope.
x2 some people think iron sights are an option for longer shots but I think it's ridiculous to use them outside of the brush because, as you said, iron sights cover up a deer at any distance further than 200
AR style peep sight is the width of a man at 500 yards, can't imagine it would cover a whole deer at 200.
Post by: Fishaholic on October 29, 2012, 07:46:56 PM
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