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Title: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 26, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
Was up North River in Pacific County this weekend deer hunting with my dad and pulled over to let a rig by, but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it and out hopped a couple game wardens. Checked my license, questioned us a bit, and looked in the back to see if we had anything, then down the road they went. Yay! 'Bout time. First time I've ever been checked in the woods in Washington. Then we headed over to check out some spots up Williams Creek and saw two different wardens Checking out duck hunters south of South Bend. Busy little beavers. Right on!
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: bankwalker on October 26, 2012, 09:27:39 PM
Got checked today aswell, just the usual routine check...no guns drawn or bad words. Bummer  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: wackum on October 26, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
Was up North River in Pacific County this weekend deer hunting with my dad and pulled over to let a rig by, but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it and out hopped a couple game wardens. Checked my license, questioned us a bit, and looked in the back to see if we had anything, then down the road they went. Yay! 'Bout time. First time I've ever been checked in the woods in Washington. Then we headed over to check out some spots up Williams Creek and saw two different wardens Checking out duck hunters south of South Bend. Busy little beavers. Right on!
                   :tup:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whitey on October 26, 2012, 09:33:04 PM
Not very offten you see them bust suction. :rolleyes:
If you werent on the road they wouldnt have put the donut down. :yike:
Hope You and your Dad had a great time spent in the woods.
Good Luck.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: RifleRidge on October 26, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
" but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it ".

 Thats  :crap: & :bs: lack of respect when they move in on you like that!
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 26, 2012, 09:59:56 PM
Not very offten you see them bust suction. :rolleyes:
If you werent on the road they wouldnt have put the donut down. :yike:
Hope You and your Dad had a great time spent in the woods.
Good Luck.

Every day in the woods with dad is a good one! He's 78 and doesn't get around well any more. But he still has the desire!
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 26, 2012, 10:02:39 PM
" but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it ".

 Thats  :crap: & :bs: lack of respect when they move in on you like that!

Yah, there is that and the fact they were wearing stun guns didn't sit well with me, and one was definitely the "good" cop and the other the  "bad" cop. But you know what? I'm not going to bust their chops for that. I was glad to see some enforcement.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: NW-GSP on October 27, 2012, 05:42:56 AM
" but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it ".

 Thats  :crap: & :bs: lack of respect when they move in on you like that!

Yah, there is that and the fact they were wearing stun guns didn't sit well with me, and one was definitely the "good" cop and the other the  "bad" cop. But you know what? I'm not going to bust their chops for that. I was glad to see some enforcement.



Why did it bother you that they had taser guns? They are law enforcment and allot of the time they are alone and have no backup. If one of them has si go hand to hand with someone that is bigger then them would you rather have him shoot the guy or possibly be killed by the guy? The stun gun can be a immediate game changer for a situation like that.

Everyone complains about poachers and then they want to complain when they get stopped by a game warden to make sure they are legal.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: PolarBear on October 27, 2012, 05:51:35 AM
I wish they would stop more people for random checks.  I drove by the WDFW outpost in Shelton yesterday and there were around 10 WFDW patrol rigs sitting there and a hand full of officers just hanging out doing nothing.   :bash:  With the end of early rifle season drawing close you would think that they would be out in the woods.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: washelkhunter on October 27, 2012, 05:57:40 AM
Bust suction! Bwahahahahaha. Hilarious.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: jstone on October 27, 2012, 10:50:20 AM
Got checked in the Blag Mountain area late archery 2 years ago. Big Game Warden. Talked to him for a while. He was a cool guy. Checked my stuff never any issues so never a problem.
Title: Wardens in the woods
Post by: RuttinWapati on October 27, 2012, 03:02:04 PM
Gamies are all over pacific county and I'm glad they are there!!! Lots of fishing& hunting goin on right now in the area...


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Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Angus on October 27, 2012, 03:30:46 PM
Saw a warden up near Livingston mountain yesterday out of Camas, parked alongside the road across the road from a couple parked cars, looked like he was waiting for someone to return, private property and no hunting signs all over up there. :dunno:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 27, 2012, 03:31:13 PM
When they pull up on ya quick like that they are wanting to see if your guns are loaded in the rig   :dunno:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: cleem-j3(BBD!!!) on October 27, 2012, 03:50:43 PM
i got checked a week or so ago as well, they are everywhere this year!
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on October 27, 2012, 04:03:57 PM
I wish every one of you would start getting pulled over every day for being in the act of driving.... 

And when they see you in a boat, I wish every one of you would get check and searched... and be ran through a TSA scanner. 

You'd all deserve it.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Button Nubbs on October 27, 2012, 04:04:29 PM
I got checked early archery, probably the first time in 10 years. I was happy to see them. I don't know why anyone would be mad to get rolled up on by a gamie. Unless you have something to hide...
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on October 27, 2012, 04:06:06 PM
don't worry about it.  if you are doing nothing wrong, then you're good to go.


plus, i hope they are monitoring this forum to see who has guns, then comes to your house to make sure you have them locked up properly and all register and every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed.

It's what we pay them for.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on October 27, 2012, 04:07:59 PM
I got checked early archery, probably the first time in 10 years. I was happy to see them. I don't know why anyone would be mad to get rolled up on by a gamie. Unless you have something to hide...
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: norsepeak on October 27, 2012, 04:11:02 PM
they've been running around like crazy with the F.S. LEO and local Deputy today.  Good to hear, at least 6 officers on the radio today in my neighborhood.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: bobcat on October 27, 2012, 04:20:32 PM
I just wish they'd spend more time in the woods when it's NOT hunting season.  :bash:

Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 27, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
exactly Bobcat ...thats when the poaching goes on the most  :tup:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: dscubame on October 27, 2012, 05:48:18 PM
I just wish they'd spend more time in the woods when it's NOT hunting season.  :bash:

Very good point.  They are spending too much time checking temperatures of walk in coolers at the local restaurants in the off season.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: huntergreg on October 27, 2012, 05:49:35 PM
My father, son and me got checked 2 times today by two different officers.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whitey on October 27, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
Bust suction! Bwahahahahaha. Hilarious.  :chuckle:

I was at a loss for words. :rolleyes:
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Mudman on October 27, 2012, 09:49:06 PM
I think they should be active and enforce all laws butrandom stops and check stations seem to imply you are already in the wrong.  I dont think it american.  What happen to innocent not presumed guilty?  Watch n check ya when you are walking/hunting but where do ya draw the line?  Random dui roadblocks?  Regular leos are not suposed to stop ya for no reason, so why do wardens?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 27, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
" but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it ".

 Thats  :crap: & :bs: lack of respect when they move in on you like that!

Yah, there is that and the fact they were wearing stun guns didn't sit well with me, and one was definitely the "good" cop and the other the  "bad" cop. But you know what? I'm not going to bust their chops for that. I was glad to see some enforcement.



Why did it bother you that they had taser guns? They are law enforcment and allot of the time they are alone and have no backup. If one of them has si go hand to hand with someone that is bigger then them would you rather have him shoot the guy or possibly be killed by the guy? The stun gun can be a immediate game changer for a situation like that.

Everyone complains about poachers and then they want to complain when they get stopped by a game warden to make sure they are legal.

Let's just say that I think being confrontational causes confrontation some times.  Had they just pulled over and got out in a friendly manner and asked to see our licenses I wouldn't have given it a second thought. But when they skidded to a sideways stop blocking the road and jumped out looking loaded for bear, then one tries to keep us occupied while the other slips around back to peer into my canopy, well there's some people who might get provoked over something like that. A show of force isn't always the best way to win respect and co-operation from people. It creates an us against them feeling instead of a let's work together to get the bad guys attitude.

But as I already said, I won't bust their chops for it. I was really glad to see some enforcement in the woods. Now if they'd just work on their people skills.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: clindsayrun on October 27, 2012, 10:08:06 PM
Wardens don't stop you "for no reason", they stop you because you are engaged in hunting or fishing activity. Driving one the back road in hunter orange with a rifle on the front seat. What else would you be doing? Perfectly reasonable to expect to be checked out. I've never had a warden stop me and the family out on the highway driving to the grocery store; but motoring around the lake with a pole in the water... different story.

As far as people skills... remain professional, maybe a little personable, but have a plan to kill everybody.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 28, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
Wardens don't stop you "for no reason", they stop you because you are engaged in hunting or fishing activity. Driving one the back road in hunter orange with a rifle on the front seat. What else would you be doing? Perfectly reasonable to expect to be checked out. I've never had a warden stop me and the family out on the highway driving to the grocery store; but motoring around the lake with a pole in the water... different story.

As far as people skills... remain professional, maybe a little personable, but have a plan to kill everybody.

Have a plan to kill everybody? Seriously.......  with that attitude you'd soon have everybody with a plan to kill you out of self defense.

For your info, we weren't engaged in hunting at the moment we were stopped. We were just driving in. We could have been out picking mushrooms or just out for a Sunday drive. No hunter orange on or any guns out.  They didn't "know" we were hunting until they asked us (as expected) and I confirmed it. So the confrontational attitude was a bit extreme in my opinion. But again, I was glad to see them out showing their faces.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: washelkhunter on October 28, 2012, 05:54:03 AM
Anyone know exactly how many wdfw officers there are now?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: durtbag on October 28, 2012, 06:08:55 AM
wish they would hang out in our area more. they would run out of tickets or get writers cramp. group i know wont quit till all their tags are filled. >:(
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Jingles on October 28, 2012, 06:37:37 AM

plus, i hope they are monitoring this forum to see who has guns, then comes to your house to make sure you have them locked up properly and all register and every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed.


Nothing says my guns in my house have to be locked up and empty and they sure as hell aren't in fact most all of them have full magazines and readily accessible and most are unregistered if they do come they'd damned well better have a search warrant with all the t's crossed and I's dotted for something besides to look at my guns
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: RG on October 28, 2012, 06:48:53 AM
don't worry about it.  if you are doing nothing wrong, then you're good to go.


plus, i hope they are monitoring this forum to see who has guns, then comes to your house to make sure you have them locked up properly and all register and every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed.

It's what we pay them for.

That's pretty funny, I thought we paid them to enforce wildlife, hunting, and fishing laws.  I may not be reading the same law book you read but I missed the part that said my guns have to be locked up and registered in Washington.  I'm pretty sure they really don't have an interest in going to anybody's house to look at their guns, from the guys and gals I know who do this work, they have their own guns to play with.  Give them a break, if they weren't out there our wildlife situation would be even worse than it is with all the parasites that would be poaching and trashing the woods.  Sometimes they have to inconvenience you a little to do their job but it's not really a big deal, takes a few minutes and you are on your way.  They wouldn't continue to do it if they weren't catching violators on a regular basis. 
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: akirkland on October 28, 2012, 09:20:55 AM
Fort Lewis has hired 2 full time wardens. Ive been checked 3 times so far this year hunting birds. Twice in one day :tup: So thats 80 sum thousand acres for two wardens. Not too bad. Maybe they will put a dent in some of the poaching on the south and east side if the fort. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Mudman on October 28, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
Ive been stopped and checked while not hunting and hunting.  Is it me or is there a pattern of young warden having an attitude or bad cop and older warden being very respectfull and a pleasure to speak with while doing his job too?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Kowsrule30 on October 28, 2012, 12:08:12 PM
Haven't been checked once this year.... Did see one this am on my way back home.... Thought I was getting pulled over on hwy 3 for speeding.... Got over and a Warden flew by at mach 2..... Lucky me!!!!  Don't have a clue where he ended up or went... I wasn't even back to Belfair yet....
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Yelm hunter on October 28, 2012, 02:04:57 PM
" but he turned diagonally in the road and blocked it ".

 Thats  :crap: & :bs: lack of respect when they move in on you like that!

Yah, there is that and the fact they were wearing stun guns didn't sit well with me, and one was definitely the "good" cop and the other the  "bad" cop. But you know what? I'm not going to bust their chops for that. I was glad to see some enforcement.

 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:


Why did it bother you that they had taser guns? They are law enforcment and allot of the time they are alone and have no backup. If one of them has si go hand to hand with someone that is bigger then them would you rather have him shoot the guy or possibly be killed by the guy? The stun gun can be a immediate game changer for a situation like that.

Everyone complains about poachers and then they want to complain when they get stopped by a game warden to make sure they are legal.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 30, 2012, 09:03:43 AM
You still haven't explained why the heck it should bother you that they carry Tasers.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: brokehunter on October 30, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
Wardens don't stop you "for no reason", they stop you because you are engaged in hunting or fishing activity. Driving one the back road in hunter orange with a rifle on the front seat. What else would you be doing? Perfectly reasonable to expect to be checked out. I've never had a warden stop me and the family out on the highway driving to the grocery store; but motoring around the lake with a pole in the water... different story.

As far as people skills... remain professional, maybe a little personable, but have a plan to kill everybody.

Have a plan to kill everybody? Seriously.......  with that attitude you'd soon have everybody with a plan to kill you out of self defense.

For your info, we weren't engaged in hunting at the moment we were stopped. We were just driving in. We could have been out picking mushrooms or just out for a Sunday drive. No hunter orange on or any guns out.  They didn't "know" we were hunting until they asked us (as expected) and I confirmed it. So the confrontational attitude was a bit extreme in my opinion. But again, I was glad to see them out showing their faces.

I am thinking that in your particular circumstance, the vehicle you were in, may have been a match or similar to a suspect vehicle in the area, which is why the acted a little more aggresively. So if that's the case, that would have been the reason for the check. If your vehicle or persons match what might have been reported by someone, then it becomes probable cause and they can stop you for that reason, even if you think they stopped you for no reason. Just my :twocents:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Mudman on October 30, 2012, 01:47:58 PM
Ya that would make sense.  L like they do their job but dont like when they are grumpy! :chuckle:We need em yes but they should treat us as friendlys not potential criminals.  They have been decent with me but the young guys behave like jerks sometimes? :twocents:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: dlaw on October 30, 2012, 01:58:16 PM
Probably 14 years ago, I had the same thing happen to me down at the coast.  It was dark out and I was headed to my friends elk camp up Salmon Creek.  Two vehicles approached, I moved over to the side the first vehicle drove past and pulled in behind me at an angle.  The second vehicle approached and pulled in at an angle blocking me in the front.  The wardens got out and approached my vehicle as I rolled the window down.  They had gotten word someone was poaching in the area and wanted to check my rifle and see if I had been in the area very long.  After they checked me out they said "Thanks" and let me on my way.  Seems like they were doing their job to me in this instance. 
Maybe they had some reports of something and that is why they blocked you in also? 
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 30, 2012, 02:32:33 PM
Wardens don't stop you "for no reason", they stop you because you are engaged in hunting or fishing activity. Driving one the back road in hunter orange with a rifle on the front seat. What else would you be doing? Perfectly reasonable to expect to be checked out. I've never had a warden stop me and the family out on the highway driving to the grocery store; but motoring around the lake with a pole in the water... different story.

As far as people skills... remain professional, maybe a little personable, but have a plan to kill everybody.

Have a plan to kill everybody? Seriously.......  with that attitude you'd soon have everybody with a plan to kill you out of self defense.
For your info, we weren't engaged in hunting at the moment we were stopped. We were just driving in. We could have been out picking mushrooms or just out for a Sunday drive. No hunter orange on or any guns out.  They didn't "know" we were hunting until they asked us (as expected) and I confirmed it. So the confrontational attitude was a bit extreme in my opinion. But again, I was glad to see them out showing their faces.

I am thinking that in your particular circumstance, the vehicle you were in, may have been a match or similar to a suspect vehicle in the area, which is why the acted a little more aggresively. So if that's the case, that would have been the reason for the check. If your vehicle or persons match what might have been reported by someone, then it becomes probable cause and they can stop you for that reason, even if you think they stopped you for no reason. Just my :twocents:

I know I'm late to this dance but better late than never.  Is there a problem with being prepared for the worst case scenario at all times?  Whether i'm at home, public or in the woods I'm constantly assessing the situation, thinking "what if" and "how to overcome" regardless if i'm alone or not.  If I have my wife and children then i'm constantly on alert and ready for any situation.  I give everybody the benefit of the doubt and greet with a smile and handshake but, if they decide they don't care to see me or my family then who am I to change that? 

I would rather be prepared for any situation than not be prepared and "caught with my pants down", so to speak.  Don't hate somebody for continuing to practice what was instilled in them by great leaders of men.  "Pray for Peace, Train for War!" :tup:  Semper Fi til I Die!
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
Freakin war mongering jarheads, I have to agree with you completely! Be polite, be professional, have a plan to kill everyone.

You guys are so mean, though! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: chad s. on October 30, 2012, 07:48:43 PM
Ive been stopped and checked while not hunting and hunting.  Is it me or is there a pattern of young warden having an attitude or bad cop and older warden being very respectfull and a pleasure to speak with while doing his job too?

The young ones are Fish and Wildlife Officers. The older ones are Game Wardens. The problem is that Chief Bjork is a former State Patrolman. Where do you think his loyalties lie???
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: sakoshooter on October 30, 2012, 08:07:08 PM
Glad to hear they're out there. Wish there were more of them.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: huntnnw on October 30, 2012, 10:29:20 PM
I dont think he can check u driving...how the heck does he know that your hunting?? now if you were walking up the road or walking up to your rig with a weapon yes
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 30, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
I was checked last weekend on the ferry home from Friday Harbor. Warden asked who in the rig had been hunting, we told him, he checked our licenses and thanked me for taking out the youngsters and getting them involved with the outdoors. Can't remember the young guys name, but he was a class act. :tup:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Deep Forks on October 31, 2012, 01:02:38 AM
Wardens don't stop you "for no reason", they stop you because you are engaged in hunting or fishing activity. Driving one the back road in hunter orange with a rifle on the front seat. What else would you be doing? Perfectly reasonable to expect to be checked out. I've never had a warden stop me and the family out on the highway driving to the grocery store; but motoring around the lake with a pole in the water... different story.

As far as people skills... remain professional, maybe a little personable, but have a plan to kill everybody.

Have a plan to kill everybody? Seriously.......  with that attitude you'd soon have everybody with a plan to kill you out of self defense.
For your info, we weren't engaged in hunting at the moment we were stopped. We were just driving in. We could have been out picking mushrooms or just out for a Sunday drive. No hunter orange on or any guns out.  They didn't "know" we were hunting until they asked us (as expected) and I confirmed it. So the confrontational attitude was a bit extreme in my opinion. But again, I was glad to see them out showing their faces.

I am thinking that in your particular circumstance, the vehicle you were in, may have been a match or similar to a suspect vehicle in the area, which is why the acted a little more aggresively. So if that's the case, that would have been the reason for the check. If your vehicle or persons match what might have been reported by someone, then it becomes probable cause and they can stop you for that reason, even if you think they stopped you for no reason. Just my :twocents:

I know I'm late to this dance but better late than never.  Is there a problem with being prepared for the worst case scenario at all times?  Whether i'm at home, public or in the woods I'm constantly assessing the situation, thinking "what if" and "how to overcome" regardless if i'm alone or not.  If I have my wife and children then i'm constantly on alert and ready for any situation.  I give everybody the benefit of the doubt and greet with a smile and handshake but, if they decide they don't care to see me or my family then who am I to change that? 

I would rather be prepared for any situation than not be prepared and "caught with my pants down", so to speak.  Don't hate somebody for continuing to practice what was instilled in them by great leaders of men.  "Pray for Peace, Train for War!" :tup:  Semper Fi til I Die!

   :yeah:  I've lived under these same rules since I was 18 and still live by them today.  My Sarg. preached "Pray for Peace, Train for War", and I listened.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whacker1 on October 31, 2012, 06:01:04 AM
I dont think he can check u driving...how the heck does he know that your hunting?? now if you were walking up the road or walking up to your rig with a weapon yes

you would likely be wrong.... if you are driving into or out of an area prone to hunting....i.e. logging roads, wdfw, dnr, or forest service roads, you are believed to be hunting if an active season is open, and they do have the option and discretion to check you.  As part of purchasing a hunting license you are supposed to comply.

If you are driving on hwy 2 then the same doesn't apply unless you drive by a check station with antlers hanging out the back of the pickup.  they would have the probable cause to check you because you have a visible animal hanging out fo the back of the pickup.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: boneaddict on October 31, 2012, 06:11:43 AM
WSP training classes are about wrapped up for the year.  I believe they are training in the wildlife department at the moment.  I am not sure they are allowed to carry firearms at the moment, they have been checked out on Tazers.   Its very likely they are riding with a seasoned game officer, hence the one trying to get their grade (bad cop) and the one laughing to himself.  The main training facility is in Shelton I believe.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 31, 2012, 06:44:59 AM
I dont think he can check u driving...how the heck does he know that your hunting?? now if you were walking up the road or walking up to your rig with a weapon yes

you would likely be wrong.... if you are driving into or out of an area prone to hunting....i.e. logging roads, wdfw, dnr, or forest service roads, you are believed to be hunting if an active season is open, and they do have the option and discretion to check you.  As part of purchasing a hunting license you are supposed to comply.

If you are driving on hwy 2 then the same doesn't apply .....

What legal authority are you quoting there?  US-2 goes thru and into areas "prone to hunting".  Same could be said about 90, 12, 410 and 20.  Is there a exception for those highways?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: boneaddict on October 31, 2012, 07:17:17 AM
They can put a check station whereever they want.  They often have one just north of Wenatchee.  They cooperate with the WSP, so guess what, its just like a sobriety check station.  No suspicions or probable cause, through you go.....
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Woodchuck on October 31, 2012, 07:29:38 AM
 :yeah: ding ding ding
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 31, 2012, 07:31:13 AM
They can put a check station whereever they want.  They often have one just north of Wenatchee.  They cooperate with the WSP, so guess what, its just like a sobriety check station.  No suspicions or probable cause, through you go.....
Which are illegal in the State of Washington

http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/checkpoint_laws.html (http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/checkpoint_laws.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_checkpoint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_checkpoint)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AMexican_troops_operating_in_a_random_checkpoint_2009.jpg&hash=7127365123c9df85e204e0ccdfa7aca325a97b60)
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 31, 2012, 07:32:44 AM
:yeah: ding ding ding
:bdid:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whacker1 on October 31, 2012, 08:03:29 AM
By purchasing a hunting license essentially you are agreeing to cooperate in all of these activities, game check points, game warden checks, harvest reports, etc....

I am not going to look up the page in the regs or the rcw, these are just the items I have always held to be true.  I could be wrong, but figured that this was the case as hunting is a privilege in this state vs. a right. 
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Knocker of rocks on October 31, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
By purchasing a hunting license essentially you are agreeing to cooperate in all of these activities, game check points, game warden checks, harvest reports, etc....

I am not going to look up the page in the regs or the rcw, these are just the items I have always held to be true.  I could be wrong, but figured that this was the case as hunting is a privilege in this state vs. a right.
As is driving. 

But sobriety checkpoints are not legal in Washington, and the police can't pull you over to see wether you have a drivers license.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 31, 2012, 08:41:26 AM
Enforcement check stations on state highways are not used in Washington.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 31, 2012, 08:42:20 AM
WSP training classes are about wrapped up for the year.  I believe they are training in the wildlife department at the moment.  I am not sure they are allowed to carry firearms at the moment, they have been checked out on Tazers.   Its very likely they are riding with a seasoned game officer, hence the one trying to get their grade (bad cop) and the one laughing to himself.  The main training facility is in Shelton I believe.

Huh?

I don't believe that WSP does training with WDFW.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: boneaddict on October 31, 2012, 08:43:26 AM
Just a guess? :dunno:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: boneaddict on October 31, 2012, 08:44:41 AM
legal advice....since they don't have any rights to stop you, I recommend gunning it and blowing through.  :)    Maybe thats why I am not a lawyer.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 31, 2012, 08:51:57 AM
legal advice....since they don't have any rights to stop you, I recommend gunning it and blowing through.  :)    Maybe thats why I am not a lawyer.

 :yeah: Let us know how it works out for you.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Woodchuck on October 31, 2012, 08:55:27 AM
:yeah: ding ding ding
:bdid:
HUH?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Caseyd on October 31, 2012, 08:55:45 AM
legal advice....since they don't have any rights to stop you, I recommend gunning it and blowing through.  :)    Maybe thats why I am not a lawyer.

 :chuckle:

Don't forget to video tape it so we all can watch later  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: bobcat on October 31, 2012, 08:59:10 AM
legal advice....since they don't have any rights to stop you, I recommend gunning it and blowing through.  :)    Maybe thats why I am not a lawyer.

 :lol4:    :chuckle:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: golfguy0912 on October 31, 2012, 09:08:52 AM
WSP training classes are about wrapped up for the year.  I believe they are training in the wildlife department at the moment.  I am not sure they are allowed to carry firearms at the moment, they have been checked out on Tazers.   Its very likely they are riding with a seasoned game officer, hence the one trying to get their grade (bad cop) and the one laughing to himself.  The main training facility is in Shelton I believe.

Huh?

I don't believe that WSP does training with WDFW.

They don't. They have talked about putting Fish and Game and WSP together under one hat for years, but I dont see it happening. They do use the same Communication centers, but thats about it.

Also the WSP training classes are not wrapped up, they just started a new one two weeks ago. They wont have a break in the academy till well into next year, if not later
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 31, 2012, 09:20:09 AM
I see Sitka still hasn't bothered to answer the question as to why he finds it troublesome that game wardens carry Taser?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 31, 2012, 09:54:33 AM
I dont think he can check u driving...how the heck does he know that your hunting?? now if you were walking up the road or walking up to your rig with a weapon yes

you would likely be wrong.... if you are driving into or out of an area prone to hunting....i.e. logging roads, wdfw, dnr, or forest service roads, you are believed to be hunting if an active season is open, and they do have the option and discretion to check you.  As part of purchasing a hunting license you are supposed to comply.

If you are driving on hwy 2 then the same doesn't apply unless you drive by a check station with antlers hanging out the back of the pickup.  they would have the probable cause to check you because you have a visible animal hanging out fo the back of the pickup.

Interesting tid-bit I found, 

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.470 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.470)   

If Hwy 2 is a state hiway, check stations cannot be set-up on interstate or state hiways according to the RCW.   

But with an animal or part of one exposed, that would be another issue. 
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 31, 2012, 09:57:59 AM
The RCW pertains to enforcement check stations.  The one on Highway 2 is for biological data collection.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: dscubame on October 31, 2012, 10:00:11 AM
The RCW pertains to enforcement check stations.  The one on Highway 2 is for biological data collection.

Yes that is how they get around it.  Like the Japanese whale hunting.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 31, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
The RCW pertains to enforcement check stations.  The one on Highway 2 is for biological data collection.

Yes that is how they get around it.  Like the Japanese whale hunting.

Do you get checked by game wardens there, or biologists?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whacker1 on October 31, 2012, 12:31:43 PM
The RCW pertains to enforcement check stations.  The one on Highway 2 is for biological data collection.

Yes that is how they get around it.  Like the Japanese whale hunting.

Do you get checked by game wardens there, or biologists?

Typically biologists and volunteers, but game wardens to stop by from time to time.  Usually they don't because they are working on enforcement issues
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: CedarPants on October 31, 2012, 12:33:30 PM
The check station up north on 395 during the early buck season looked to be manned by high school kids that were doing the macarena.

I almost pulled in to get out and show them how it was done the right way
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: 300rum on October 31, 2012, 02:10:35 PM
I was coming out of Idaho last week into Spokane and passed an Idaho game warden just past the state line (we were barely Washington).  I figured we were going to get pulled over as the antlers of our bucks were above the bed of the pickup, just lying on the bed.  He didn't pull us over, he was looking real hard though.  I wonder why he didn't?  Maybe because we were in Washington?  Maybe he didn't care or had other things to do?

 
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: cascademountainhunter on October 31, 2012, 02:39:37 PM
I'm all for the wardens and them out checking people but i hate it when there are those wardens that have to act all high and mighty or be jerks for no reason. Last year i went out hunting with some buddies durring late buck. I had already got my deer in the early season but still had my rifle with me so i could shoot coyotes, plus i just feel naked in the woods without a gun anyway. And bear had just ended so i couldnt shoot a bear if i saw one. So anyway he asked me what i was doing with a gun since I had already killed my deer. So i told him I could still shoot coyotes. And he says to me and i quote "I was hopin youd say you were bear huntin so i could write you a ticket." That just rubbed me wrong and he went on to check my buddies also and wasnt very friendly to any of us. At the same spot he checked my dad previously that year and he wasnt friendly at all to my dad either. I dont know what his name was but i wish there was a way to look it up does anyone know if there is? It's people like him that give wardens a bad reputation and is why alot of people dont like them.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: csaaphill on October 31, 2012, 03:15:47 PM
I was coming out of Idaho last week into Spokane and passed an Idaho game warden just past the state line (we were barely Washington).  I figured we were going to get pulled over as the antlers of our bucks were above the bed of the pickup, just lying on the bed.  He didn't pull us over, he was looking real hard though.  I wonder why he didn't?  Maybe because we were in Washington?  Maybe he didn't care or had other things to do?

 
I think you will find Idaho Game wardens less on the shoot em dead attitude ours here in Washington have. Besides the Stateline stoped him, which is as it should be. he may have called it in though to Washington not sure. Obvioulsly you made it home though.
I don't mind Wardens, but there are a lot in our state for sure that have this gung-ho Attitude.
But not surprised though were a blue state while Idaho is a red state. go figure  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JLS on October 31, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
Well, the ones I've seen have nametags on their uniforms.  That might be a good way to start figuring out who they were.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whitey on October 31, 2012, 07:46:11 PM
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Well if we are going to blow some road blocks Gents, I better bring "Lil Daisy"
 :yike:
Boy Scouts motto. Be prepared.. :dunno:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: RG on November 01, 2012, 04:43:16 AM
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Well if we are going to blow some road blocks Gents, I better bring "Lil Daisy"
 :yike:
Boy Scouts motto. Be prepared.. :dunno:

Do you carry that thing in a wheelbarrow?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 01, 2012, 04:53:36 AM
Sound like it's hit and miss for where people get checked and where the wardens are most active.  I've only been checked once and it was at my camp.  I had a bear hanging in camp (gutted and skinned) and the warden asked if it was a buck or doe.  Total goofball.  He didn't seem to know anything about hunting either.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: 300rum on November 01, 2012, 08:57:43 AM
That's funny.   :chuckle:  So, what did you tell him, buck or doe?   :chuckle:

Sound like it's hit and miss for where people get checked and where the wardens are most active.  I've only been checked once and it was at my camp.  I had a bear hanging in camp (gutted and skinned) and the warden asked if it was a buck or doe.  Total goofball.  He didn't seem to know anything about hunting either.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: whitey on November 01, 2012, 05:21:16 PM
RG. I carry that bad dog on My hip..Like "Clint Eastwood" Style. :yike:
Not really only bull chittin, I really carry that bad dog on in a Diamond D Custom cross draw.

Guides Choice Leather Chest Holster, upon arrival (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHweGtI8Ey0#ws)
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: bigtex on November 04, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
WSP training classes are about wrapped up for the year.  I believe they are training in the wildlife department at the moment.  I am not sure they are allowed to carry firearms at the moment, they have been checked out on Tazers.   Its very likely they are riding with a seasoned game officer, hence the one trying to get their grade (bad cop) and the one laughing to himself.  The main training facility is in Shelton I believe.

Huh?

I don't believe that WSP does training with WDFW.

The only law enforcement agencies that go through the WSP academy is WSP.

All other state, city, county and tribal agencies go through the Criminal Justice Training Center (academy) in Burien. However all officers go through driving training at the WSP academy.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: huntfor1 on November 04, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
I got stopped in Stevens County 2 weeks ago by the WSP coming home from a deer hunt with my son ( I was going a little fast trying to make it home for the Seahawk game). Upon noticing the two bucks in the back of my truck, he asked for our hunting licenses and checked to see that our tags were properly notched!
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: brokehunter on November 05, 2012, 12:10:03 AM
I got stopped in Stevens County 2 weeks ago by the WSP coming home from a deer hunt with my son ( I was going a little fast trying to make it home for the Seahawk game). Upon noticing the two bucks in the back of my truck, he asked for our hunting licenses and checked to see that our tags were properly notched!

I've been hunting here in WA for several years now, and have yet to see a warden. But last year on our way out from elk hunting, we saw a handful of WSP Troopers checking rigs out. Probably a good idea, because we saw 2 illegal poached elk on the side of the road while hunting that day.

In Oregon, we got stopped twice by state troopers checking our license and tags. Apparently down there, since like up here wardens are few and far between, troopers get selected for game enforcement during hunting seasons. I remember the one trooper was worried because he had drawn special tags and was doubtful he'd be able to hunt since he was selected for game enforcement. Don't exactly know how WA works, but it would make some sense being the lack of wardens out there.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: bigtex on November 05, 2012, 03:36:32 AM
I got stopped in Stevens County 2 weeks ago by the WSP coming home from a deer hunt with my son ( I was going a little fast trying to make it home for the Seahawk game). Upon noticing the two bucks in the back of my truck, he asked for our hunting licenses and checked to see that our tags were properly notched!

In Oregon, we got stopped twice by state troopers checking our license and tags. Apparently down there, since like up here wardens are few and far between, troopers get selected for game enforcement during hunting seasons. I remember the one trooper was worried because he had drawn special tags and was doubtful he'd be able to hunt since he was selected for game enforcement. Don't exactly know how WA works, but it would make some sense being the lack of wardens out there.  :dunno:

In Oregon the troopers are the enforcers of fish and wildlife laws. There is no enforcement branch of Oregon Fish and Wildlife.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: usmc74 on November 05, 2012, 05:35:13 AM
Saw the "robo deer" along side a logging road this weekend.  2 game trucks parked above.  good to see em out there.

there was not an open deer season
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: RG on November 05, 2012, 07:14:48 AM
I got stopped in Stevens County 2 weeks ago by the WSP coming home from a deer hunt with my son ( I was going a little fast trying to make it home for the Seahawk game). Upon noticing the two bucks in the back of my truck, he asked for our hunting licenses and checked to see that our tags were properly notched!
Any Washington LEO can enforce game laws.  Unfortunately not many outside of WDFW do because it is another whole set of laws and can be very complicated.  Usually if the officer is a sportsman too he will at least check a few things like tags and licenses.
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 16, 2012, 07:21:34 PM
Were they in an unmarked vehicle?  When they did this diagonal blocking maneuver on you guys or was it obvious it was probably a warden vehicle?
Title: Re: Wardens in the woods
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on November 19, 2012, 01:58:23 AM
We got checked by a couple wardens in 111 a couple days ago. Day and night from my earlier encounter this year. Pleasant and professional.  Definitely spread some goodwill for the dept. In turn we reported some middle of the night shooting we'd heard.
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