Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 04:36:39 PM
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Post by: bobcat on November 02, 2012, 04:39:35 PM
The buck was unfortunate enough to grow eye guards.
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 04:40:16 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on November 02, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
Yes, legal.
The buck was unfortunate enough to grow eye guards.
:yeah: and with many people it would be getting shot wether it was legal or not.
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 04:47:09 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 02, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 02, 2012, 04:50:25 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.:yeah:
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
No!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
Post by: Salmo on November 02, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 02, 2012, 04:53:55 PM
Post by: Mike450r on November 02, 2012, 04:55:25 PM
Post by: Bootfish on November 02, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
Explain why.
Post by: adamR on November 02, 2012, 04:59:42 PM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 02, 2012, 05:01:32 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
No!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
Whats next....you gonna call it a 6 pointer ? :bash: :chuckle:
Post by: JLS on November 02, 2012, 05:02:04 PM
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 05:02:50 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
No!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
Whats next....you gonna call it a 6 pointer ? :bash: :chuckle:
Nope. A 3x3
Post by: Mike450r on November 02, 2012, 05:03:16 PM
2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
Explain why.
western tradition, don't know any old timer, not one westerner of age that would call it anything different, except some might just call it a 2 point.
Thats how I learned, from my grandpa and thats just how it is around here. Except with transplants and new hunters, again though only my :twocents:
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 05:05:28 PM
2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
I'd have to agree :chuckle:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 02, 2012, 05:06:18 PM
2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
Explain why.
western tradition, don't know any old timer, not one westerner of age that would call it anything different, except some might just call it a 2 point.
Thats how I learned, from my grandpa and thats just how it is around here. Except with transplants and new hunters, again though only my :twocents:
:yeah: sums it up right there
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 05:07:54 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 02, 2012, 05:08:47 PM
Post by: sled on November 02, 2012, 05:08:55 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.. Its hard to tell if they are an inch. Id pass.
Post by: superdown on November 02, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
No!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
Looks like a 3x3 to me. The state and boone and crocket both say its a 3x3 so its a 3x3! Period! End of story! :tung::yeah:
Post by: bobcat on November 02, 2012, 05:13:41 PM
Well you have to call it a 3 point to shoot it :tung:
No you don't. You could call it an elk if you want, shoot it, and as long as it's deer season and you put your deer tag on it, it's legal.
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 05:14:59 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.. Its hard to tell if they are an inch. Id pass.
Thats what I was wondering. Imagine at 100 yards...... What if they were short?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 02, 2012, 05:17:48 PM
Looks like a 3x3 to me. The state and boone and crocket both say its a 3x3 so its a 3x3! Period! End of story! :tung:
Well you have to call it a 3 point to shoot it :tung:
The state accepts eyeguards in the count total for point restricted, but they do identify eye guards indivdually as opposed to just calling them points as seen in the following copied from the hunting regs, pg 18.
3 Pt. Minimum:
A legal deer taken in these GMUs must have at
least 3 antler points on one side. A 3x3, 3x2, or
3x1 are legal in a 3 pt. min. unit. Antler points
must be at least one inch long, including eye
guards.
2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
Explain why.
western tradition, don't know any old timer, not one westerner of age that would call it anything different, except some might just call it a 2 point.
Thats how I learned, from my grandpa and thats just how it is around here. Except with transplants and new hunters, again though only my :twocents:
Easiest explaination there is I'd say, western deer were always "x number of points" noting with or w/out eyeguards and whitetail were all points counted.
Well you have to call it a 3 point to shoot it :tung:
You can call it what you want, just telling you what has been around since "Back in the day!" Man, I feel old now.... :bash:
But at any kind of distance, would be very leerly of letting one fly just because of their size and location...at least with my eyes...DOH!! There I go again, feeling old... :DOH:
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on November 02, 2012, 05:18:48 PM
Well you have to call it a 3 point to shoot it :tung:
Actually you don't. I'm fairly certain the regulations say it must have three points on one side of the antlers. That doesn't say you have to shoot a three point or better. That's a term endeared by people. In the Western Hemisphere, it's a 2 point with eye guards. Period.
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 05:21:41 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 02, 2012, 05:24:27 PM
Post by: scottfrick on November 02, 2012, 05:24:48 PM
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
Post by: ICEMAN on November 02, 2012, 05:27:22 PM
2 point with eyeguard. The guy who drops this deer call it a 3x3 at their own peril. :chuckle:
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 05:30:45 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 02, 2012, 05:35:33 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 02, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
I would call him, like others, a 2x with enough to make him legal to shoot for meat. Nice looking deer regardless...healthy and doing his thing. Witht he junk on the bases he could be very cool in a few years.
Post by: ICEMAN on November 02, 2012, 05:40:59 PM
Legal six pointer all the way!
I would call him, like others, a 2x with enough to make him legal to shoot for meat. Nice looking deer regardless...healthy and doing his thing. Witht he junk on the bases he could be very cool in a few years.
Exactly!
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 02, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
Ok, ok chew on this. You are in a 3 pt. minimum area, so if you shoot it, you are agreeing that the deer is a 3 point :chuckle:
I dont always agree with what this state says...2pt with eye guards unit :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: JBar on November 02, 2012, 05:48:56 PM
Post by: ironbuck on November 02, 2012, 06:11:00 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 02, 2012, 06:31:42 PM
Two point with eye guards! We go through this , what three times a year?No. Twice a year...plus eyeguards. :chuckle:
I almost said the exact same thing Bob
Post by: h20hunter on November 02, 2012, 06:32:12 PM
Post by: mkcj on November 02, 2012, 06:36:18 PM
Post by: marlin on November 02, 2012, 06:52:38 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 06:56:06 PM
I grew up in Texas.. So I'd either call it a 6pt, or a 4pt w/ eyeguards.. We count all the points down there.. As does the rest of the country except maybe wa, id, and or. I never heard of counting only half the rack til I got here.I wonder what they call mountains in Texas. I've seen what they call em back east. :chuckle: Better adapt man, we'll laugh you right out of deer camp. :)
Post by: h20hunter on November 02, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
Post by: Chesapeake on November 02, 2012, 09:18:08 PM
That deer is a "forkey with eye guards", or a "2x2 with eye guards".
Personally I don't shoot them in a 3 point restriction cause I don't think it's in the spirit of the restriction. But that's a personal decision I make for myself.
To me it's like when guys shoot a 5x mainframe elk with a few stickers and then call it a 6x or 7x. We all know what a 6x elk rack is. But that's another argument.....
Post by: billythekidrock on November 02, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
:yeah:
Post by: throttlejocky20 on November 03, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
Post by: RifleRidge on November 03, 2012, 01:53:00 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
No!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
Whats next....you gonna call it a 6 pointer ? :bash: :chuckle:
Again, In our neck of the woods , most people refer to this beautiful buck as a Forked horn or Forky, with eye guards... It looks like the guards are at least one inch in measurement.
Nice pic... Beautiful Buck! :tup:
Post by: Threebyfour on November 03, 2012, 02:08:32 PM
Post by: RifleRidge on November 03, 2012, 02:10:59 PM
Two point with eyeguards,legal buck, boom, down opening day. Good eatin right there.
:yeah: First day , last day, on any day in legal hunt season! :yeah:
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 03, 2012, 02:15:59 PM
Back on topic.... It appears legal on his left and possibly right.... But looking through the binocs at any given range even out in the open considering circumstances might be a tough call...
Post by: Gunsmoke on November 03, 2012, 06:42:05 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 03, 2012, 06:53:05 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on November 03, 2012, 07:02:10 PM
I can't imagine shooting a buck like that in anything other than a very up-close and personal scenario- like where I get to hold a ruler up to that left eye guard to make sure it's an inch!
Post by: steen on November 03, 2012, 07:06:12 PM
Why? Because mulies and blacktail don't always have eyeguards whereas a whitetail almost always does and they r more often or not the same length as the average2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
Explain why.
G2 and G4. Blacktail and mulies may or may not have eyeguards and usually average around an inch.
Post by: Deep Forks on November 04, 2012, 02:52:19 AM
Post by: PolarBear on November 04, 2012, 03:06:41 AM
Post by: Archer45 on November 13, 2012, 08:59:07 PM
Post by: HornHoarder on November 13, 2012, 09:05:08 PM
Do you shoot this 2x2 with eyegaurds?
Looks like somebody already did :chuckle:
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 13, 2012, 09:13:08 PM
Post by: RoyBoy on November 13, 2012, 09:17:27 PM
It's a 2 point, with eye guards.
No!!! :bash: :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
thank you lol i see a little 3 point right there! :yeah:
Post by: link on November 13, 2012, 09:52:39 PM
Do you shoot this 2x2 with eyegaurds?Hell yes, thats a nice buck. That two point is not the buck they had in mind when they made the three point restriction. The restriction was made to protect the year and a half old or immature two points. Even if that mature buck did not have eyeguards, he's not the type of buck that is intended to be "saved".
As to the first buck, its a two point with eyeguards and Im pretty sure he's legal.
As far as the question of calling it a two or three point, It is a TWO POINT. When someone tells you he shot a three point, is that the buck you picture in your head? No. If someone tells you he shot a four point, do you picture a two point frame with an eyeguard and a little sticker on the base? No, but if we are using some of your logic, then I guess it would be a four point huh?
Post by: mfswallace on November 13, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
Post by: grundy53 on November 14, 2012, 05:04:35 AM
Post by: grundy53 on November 14, 2012, 05:09:25 AM
I grew up in Texas.. So I'd either call it a 6pt, or a 4pt w/ eyeguards.. We count all the points down there.. As does the rest of the country except maybe wa, id, and or. I never heard of counting only half the rack til I got here.
And Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, California.... All of the western states. Thats why they call it western count NOT northwestern count....
Post by: mdbuck5x5 on November 14, 2012, 05:37:26 AM
2 point with eyegaurds, only a greenhorn would say different :twocents:
Explain why.
western tradition, don't know any old timer, not one westerner of age that would call it anything different, except some might just call it a 2 point.
Thats how I learned, from my grandpa and thats just how it is around here. Except with transplants and new hunters, again though only my :twocents:
:yeah: I agree with you 100% there Mike. That's how I count it and that's how I was brought up. Have hunted most of my life with an an older guy and that's how he counted them!