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Title: What would you do
Post by: plugger on November 04, 2012, 05:43:57 AM
True  story. Friend pulls up to a gate on Raineer property he had been scouting on opening day, two hrs early and there is a rig there. No big deal, No very often you get one to yourself. He gets out to start loading gear and is approched by one of the guys that asked him if he planned on walking in behind the gate. He says no, im biking(Mountain bike) in behind the gate. Well this "HUNTER" tells him if he goes in there there is going to be trouble, like its his spot or something. He tries to tell him that there is always lots of rigs going in behind most gates but this Ahole wont back down. Well as you can guess this conversation gets pretty heated and he finally just leaves. Im pretty sure I would have told him to F off and went in but hard to say when you are by yourself.  >:(
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: billythekidrock on November 04, 2012, 05:46:50 AM
Maybe it's leased. Maybe there is only one real spot to hunt behind the gate?
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: plugger on November 04, 2012, 06:03:33 AM
No its not leased and no The road goes 4 miles with several spurs. I have been on it many times. Nothing in that area is leased. The guy was just a dick.
Title: What would you do
Post by: sirmissalot on November 04, 2012, 06:15:34 AM
I would have asked him where he planned on going. If he was planning on going to the same spot as me I would have gave it to him. He was the first one there and I think that's the right thing to do. If he still wanted to be a dick after I agreed to hunt a different spot but behind the same gate I would have told him to piss off.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: billythekidrock on November 04, 2012, 06:19:48 AM
I would have asked him where he planned on going. If he was planning on going to the same spot as me I would have gave it to him. He was the first one there and I think that's the right thing to do. If he still wanted to be a dick after I agreed to hunt a different spot but behind the same gate I would have told him to piss off.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 04, 2012, 06:28:07 AM
In general, if I bump into another on public land, I like to cede the ground without disturbing their hunt.  I bumped into five separate hunters one morning in a national forest and felt like a pinball. (I did end up discovering a bedded cow in one small strip of the thick stuff amidst all these hunters and all the road hunters.)

If it's public land, there is no right to prevent your access, and it is bad form to ask, if there is enough space for more than one group. But what those guys did was threaten and/or harass.  I would have called it in to the sheriff. 
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: mtman on November 04, 2012, 07:08:13 AM
I would have went somewere else. even if that ment parking some were else and taking another way in
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: adamR on November 04, 2012, 07:13:27 AM
I would have got his facial description, a license plate, and a vehicle description.  I would have waited at my truck until he left and then went in behind the gate.  Talk all the crap you want I'm still hunting there!  But the guy sounds like he may do something stupid so I would get all that info so that if he did anything to my rig I could call the sheriff.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: ribka on November 04, 2012, 07:16:15 AM
I would have got his facial description, a license plate, and a vehicle description.  I would have waited at my truck until he left and then went in behind the gate.  Talk all the crap you want I'm still hunting there!  But the guy sounds like he may do something stupid so I would get all that info so that if he did anything to my rig I could call the sheriff.

Do the same. Cell phone pic of him and the plate on his vehicle. If he threatens you or suggests he is going to vandal your rig come back with a sheriff.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: plugger on November 04, 2012, 07:22:04 AM
He would have had no problem giving him whatever spot he wanted, There were 2 groups of elk in there and several miles apart. This ground is open to the public and to think you would have it to yourself is foolish.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: sakoshooter on November 04, 2012, 10:42:45 AM
I'd have hunted it but I have witnessed a few guys that are that way. Real dicks in my opinion. Always makes you wonder if you're going to come back to flat tires or worse. I usually write down their license number ect at that point and a quick phone call to the local law reporting the threat usually settles things fast.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: ICEMAN on November 04, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
I would have told him that it looks like we would both be hunting here. I would have photoed his rig, and advised him that my friends are not far behind. "Have a great hunt", and walked in...
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: kentrek on November 04, 2012, 11:06:25 AM
take pic of his truck an then go hunt..dont let somebody intimidate you

this guy will eventually do this to the wrong hunter
Title: What would you do
Post by: slim9300 on November 04, 2012, 11:26:31 AM
I would have asked him where he planned on going. If he was planning on going to the same spot as me I would have gave it to him. He was the first one there and I think that's the right thing to do. If he still wanted to be a dick after I agreed to hunt a different spot but behind the same gate I would have told him to piss off.

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Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 04, 2012, 12:57:49 PM
take pic of his truck an then go hunt..dont let somebody intimidate you

this guy will eventually do this to the wrong hunter

Or just the wrong person in general.  Sounds like a bully and there is always a bigger and meaner one out there... just a matter of time :bdid:
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: Yelm hunter on November 05, 2012, 08:28:28 AM
This is the Rainor Gate off Green MT. Rd in the Winston Unit is it?
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: big J on November 05, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
we had the same problem saturday with grandpa dickweed. except he blocked off a few miles of road with his truck and was just a total ass when we talked to him. i thought real hard about waiting for him to drive in and then park my rig there and leave it for a day. but we let him have the area and went to plan b and were in elk all day just no branched bulls. one of the reasons i hate rifle season lots of people but my buddy wanted someone to hunt with so i got talked into it.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: plugger on November 05, 2012, 05:57:10 PM
forks area. Hunted there my whole life and never had that happen. Sometimes there a bunch of rigs sometimes not but everyone I have ran into knows it and deals with it.
Title: Re: What would you do
Post by: mtn.goat on November 05, 2012, 07:39:56 PM
Been dealing with doushbags and bullys all my life like everyone here.  During hunting season on public land (all I've ever hunted), I get my jump off spot at least 2 hours before light!  The type of worthless "tuff guys" that act this way are as lazy as they are bad.   They are really pissed when they show up an hour before shooting time and I'm long gone.  No show downs or b.s.  Meeting these types, head to head never ends well, especially for them, so I always try to avoid the meeting.  That said, what others have said is spot on.  Try to talk sensibly with them and if that fails then the decision point is upon each one of us, on how we each deal with blow hards. 

p.s.  These types are usually long gone from a gate or trailhead etc., in only a couple of hours or even less......
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