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Title: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 12:54:10 PM
Can you use a muzzleloader in firearm restricted areas? More specific. Island county?


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Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: CP on November 05, 2012, 12:55:02 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 01:00:34 PM
Oh ok, great to know, thanks!!
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: robodad on November 05, 2012, 01:05:57 PM
Yes.

Not only "Yes" but it can be an in-line with 209 primer and with a scope if you want however used only in Modern firearm seasons, Local and County ordinances may also apply, check with the Sheriff !!
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 01:08:27 PM
Scopes too? someone told me no scopes on muzzy guns...

Thanks
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: adamR on November 05, 2012, 01:09:25 PM
no scopes on muzzies during muzzleloader season, during modern it's ok... with a modern tag of course
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 01:28:53 PM
ok gotcha. Thanks!
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
209 primer, cant be used on a muzzy tag/season?
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: 6x6in6 on November 05, 2012, 02:16:39 PM
209 primer, cant be used on a muzzy tag/season?
A nope to those too.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: robodad on November 05, 2012, 02:22:01 PM
Page 74 Muzzleloader Regulation definition number 5
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 02:23:39 PM
actually its Definition 3a.

lame, off to cancel my cabelas order!

Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: robodad on November 05, 2012, 02:25:39 PM
actually its Definition 3a.

lame, off to cancel my cabelas order!


Are you talking about modern or muzzy season ??

Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 02:28:11 PM
Didnt realize there was so many little things that make a muzzy not legal for muzzy season. If I buy one, Id like to have options.. I have multi season this year, makes no sense to me why it would allow a gun illegal to use with a muzzy tag.. Thats the govt for ya.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: Bob33 on November 05, 2012, 02:46:45 PM
Didnt realize there was so many little things that make a muzzy not legal for muzzy season. If I buy one, Id like to have options.. I have multi season this year, makes no sense to me why it would allow a gun illegal to use with a muzzy tag.. Thats the govt for ya.
Before you cancel your order and/or blast Cabelas, remember two things: (1) most muzzleloaders that accept 209 primers can be converted to use caps that are legal in Washington; (2) not all states have the same restrictions as Washington - someone purchasing a muzzleloader at a Washington Cabelas's store may plan to use it in Wyoming, for example, where it is legal. It's not Cabela's fault that Washington has certain restrictions. :twocents:
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 02:49:13 PM
already canceled, converting it over I dont think will even work, as its a break open style, so it would still be hidden, which according to the rules is still not ok.

ALSO, I have no problems with cabelas, they dont make the rules. It was the washington rules I was commenting about...
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: bobcat on November 05, 2012, 02:55:09 PM
The muzzleloader rules actually make perfect sense. Since muzzleloaders are supposed to be "primitive," the muzzleloader season has more restrictions than the modern firearm season.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: JohnVH on November 05, 2012, 03:01:04 PM
makes alot more sense to me to just have one muzzy style legal period, then there is no confusion. But its all good.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 05, 2012, 04:08:22 PM
Well it's an active topic so if you're feeling strongly about it, make yourself heard. Muzzleloading in my opinion won't change though.  No better anyway
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 05, 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Can you use a muzzleloader in firearm restricted areas? More specific. Island county?


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I would say that it depends on the municipality.  Last I checked for a certain restricted area, it was only bows or crossbows allowed, due to the ordinances in place about discharge of particular weapons, including muzzle loaders.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: lokidog on November 05, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
Can you use a muzzleloader in firearm restricted areas? More specific. Island county?


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I would say that it depends on the municipality.  Last I checked for a certain restricted area, it was only bows or crossbows allowed, due to the ordinances in place about discharge of particular weapons, including muzzle loaders.

Towns and municipalities can have more restrictive ordinances than the state does.  WA considers a ML a firearm so maybe those areas just don't allow firearms to be discharged but allow archery and crossbow discharges since their ranges are less.  Good for them that they allow something.
Title: Re: Restricted area question
Post by: smdave on November 05, 2012, 08:04:55 PM
Kind of like in Snohomish County you can not discharge a center fire rifle west of HWY 9.

Here is the state WAC (not sure if there is more) of Special closures and firearm restriction areas..

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-248 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-248)
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