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Title: freak elk
Post by: xbow on November 06, 2012, 05:53:42 PM
So I just received a pic from my buddy of an elk they got up by Mt. Adams the other day and thought I would share. This elk had no testes and hair not velvet on the horns.  :dunno:
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Post by: whitetailslyr on November 06, 2012, 05:54:54 PM
WTF???? :o
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 06, 2012, 05:56:34 PM
had one like that in the yale unit in the late 80's. :dunno:
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Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 06, 2012, 05:57:11 PM
Cactus bull
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Post by: borntoslay on November 06, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
What a majestic looking trophy
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Post by: huntergreg on November 06, 2012, 06:05:05 PM
 :yike:  Wow really weird!
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Post by: sled on November 06, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
:yike:  Wow really weird!
:yeah:
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Post by: kisfish on November 06, 2012, 06:16:21 PM
Funky. I like it :tup:
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Post by: jrebel on November 06, 2012, 06:16:34 PM
 :yike: :yike:  WOW...that is all I can say.  Don't know if it is cool, or gross???  Definitely weird.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on November 06, 2012, 06:18:26 PM
This looks gross.  I don't think I like it.  Not saying I wouldn't shoot it but it's creepy.
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Post by: RUTNBULL1 on November 06, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Cactus bull is correct, three point minimum hmmmmmmmmm! :dunno:
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Post by: Hound Hunter on November 06, 2012, 06:23:07 PM
I have this bull on trail cam.
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Post by: bone collector 12 on November 06, 2012, 06:30:42 PM
I have this bull on trail cam.
pics or it didn't happen!? :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: EDT on November 06, 2012, 06:36:40 PM
Fabricated?
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Post by: 270Flat on November 06, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
How does something like that happen?
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Post by: 206 on November 06, 2012, 06:42:53 PM
Weed don't grow down the forehead.

Fake

I'd smoke him.
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Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 06, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
It has somthing to do.with lack of testosterone if i remember right
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Post by: mkcj on November 06, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
Also I don't think they drop there antler's do they :dunno:
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Post by: Hound Hunter on November 06, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
I don't know how to post pictures.  Can I email one to someone?
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 06, 2012, 07:09:09 PM
yep that looks photo shopped! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: mdbuck5x5 on November 06, 2012, 07:09:32 PM
Man that thing is nasty looking!!!  :twocents:
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Post by: xbow on November 06, 2012, 07:10:38 PM
I don't know how to post pictures.  Can I email one to someone?

If you took that up by the Indian heavens might be the same.
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Post by: erk444 on November 06, 2012, 07:13:54 PM
Looks like it has 3 on his left side to me :dunno:
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Post by: Hound Hunter on November 06, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
The pictures were took in the same area.
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Post by: xbow on November 06, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
FOR ALL YOU DOUBTERS, this very real I will be personally helping cut this up on Thursday and will post more pics if I don't get some more up before then.
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Post by: Hound Hunter on November 06, 2012, 07:20:43 PM
Here is another
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Post by: EDT on November 06, 2012, 07:26:32 PM
Yeah, I would say a lack of testosterone, that bull doesnt have any jewels!!!
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Post by: mallard79 on November 06, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
It is odd looking........but seems to be healthy otherwise....   :dunno:
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Post by: KillZ 4 Thrilz on November 06, 2012, 07:36:12 PM
With no balls....i think he was done a favor.  :twocents:
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Post by: 762Armo on November 06, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
Man, that is trippy. Not sure I could eat the meat if I saw that before hand.  :dunno:
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 06, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
Its like a affro bull elk? :dunno:
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Post by: bassquatch on November 06, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
 :yike: It's a migratory from 3 Mile Island!!!  :yike:
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 06, 2012, 08:11:06 PM
brokeback mtn bull? i think ill pass on that tag  :sry:
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Post by: mdbuck5x5 on November 06, 2012, 08:11:53 PM
brokeback mtn bull? i think ill pass on that tag  :sry:

 :yeah:  :lol4:
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 06, 2012, 08:23:15 PM
you oughta report it to wdfw, then ask them if you win a hermaphrodite record  :chuckle:
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Post by: cem3434 on November 06, 2012, 08:44:56 PM
Cactus bull is correct, three point minimum hmmmmmmmmm! :dunno:
:yeah: The bull in the first picture doesnt look legal to me! I dont think the bull in the first picture is the same as the one on the trail camera.
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Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on November 06, 2012, 08:52:19 PM
Its wanna those chia pets..... must've got too big for the kids so they let it go in to the wild.   :dunno:
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Post by: blacktailcody on November 06, 2012, 08:52:59 PM
Hanford. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: EDT on November 06, 2012, 08:54:08 PM
Cactus bull is correct, three point minimum hmmmmmmmmm! :dunno:
:yeah: The bull in the first picture doesnt look legal to me! I dont think the bull in the first picture is the same as the one on the trail camera.

I think its obvious it is legal.
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Post by: BIGMIKE on November 06, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
all i see are those tasty hams  :drool: , REMEMBER cant eat horns. :o
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 06, 2012, 09:06:38 PM
Its like a affro bull elk? :dunno:

Thats a Chicago elk! :yike:
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 06, 2012, 09:11:23 PM
The bull is a Criptoid / Cryptorchid, meaning his testes never dropped. Its a genetic thing and has kept him sterile, this is usually self resolved after age 2, he must be a young one, it also makes their testosterone do weird crap. there ya have it folks  :tup:
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Post by: xbow on November 06, 2012, 09:12:21 PM
Cactus bull is correct, three point minimum hmmmmmmmmm! :dunno:
:yeah: The bull in the first picture doesnt look legal to me! I dont think the bull in the first picture is the same as the one on the trail camera.
Looks legal to me, gonna go cut it up Thursday and will take some pics, they have it ready to get a euro mount done on it.
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Post by: big J on November 07, 2012, 06:44:07 AM
I hunt 578 quite a bit and 3 or 4 years ago i shot what i thought was a young cow but when we gutted it had two little balls inside that never dropped. first hermaphrodite elk i have seen but now theres another. by the way i was archery huntin so a cow was legal.
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Post by: Kioti on November 07, 2012, 06:56:49 AM
So is it a Bow or a Cull...dang I hate it when they do that... :chuckle:
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Post by: matt345 on November 07, 2012, 06:57:06 AM
I have seen a buck shot like this, it has to do with a hormonal imbalance. It should be fine to eat!
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Post by: Labs07 on November 07, 2012, 08:27:25 AM
I would shoot it!
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Post by: turbo on November 07, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
I think I would have to pass on TIMMY!!
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Post by: PlateauNDN on November 07, 2012, 09:03:14 AM
 :yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  looks good to me. :dunno: :drool: :chuckle:
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Post by: LeeMajors on November 07, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
Good job removing it from the gene pool!
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Post by: deerslyr on November 07, 2012, 09:19:02 AM
Good job removing it from the gene pool!

It was never in the gene pool, poor guy couldnt pass on his genetics if he wanted  :chuckle:
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Post by: LeeMajors on November 07, 2012, 09:21:21 AM
They may have eventually dropped!
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Post by: Button Nubbs on November 07, 2012, 09:23:29 AM
just looking at that thing makes me cringe. that is nasty and i dont think i could eat it...
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Post by: throttlejocky20 on November 07, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
Abuddy of mine shot a spike buck in the coweeman that was the same way. Shot in November, velvet on antlers, 12 inch spikes with bases you cant put your finger between, and no nuts. Wierd for sure!
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 07, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
GLad you shot him, he probably voted for both gay marriage and mari jane....
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 07, 2012, 10:26:06 AM
This thread is showing these freak elk are all from S/W washington. Anybody see the them elsewhere, other states ? :dunno:
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Post by: Jethro on November 07, 2012, 10:48:23 AM
So would you need to have a Neither Sex tag?
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Post by: h2ofowlr on November 07, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
Good to shoot, just to get it out of the gene pool.  Eventhough it probably couldn't reproduce.
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Post by: xXLojackXx on November 07, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
No way on earth I'd eat that mutated elk!
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Post by: h2ofowlr on November 07, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
No way on earth I'd eat that mutated elk!

Meat probably would be great.  Not all rutted up.
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Post by: deadwoodbuck on November 07, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
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So would you need to have a Neither Sex tag?
:yeah:
don't know if i have seen anything like that in Boone and Crocket under neither sex catagory
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Post by: csaaphill on November 07, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
lol weird photoshoped? or legalised marijuana on his antlers? Bring out the bong lol.
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Post by: LeeMajors on November 07, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
So you guys that wouldn't eat it:

Do you also not eat triploid trout?
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Post by: scout88 on November 07, 2012, 12:48:59 PM
he might have castrated himself on a log or something, cactus bucks are the same way they take them off or injure them some how from what i have been told. throws there hormones all out of whack. makes mine sore just thinkin about it.
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Post by: Button Nubbs on November 07, 2012, 12:49:35 PM
hell no but not because theyre triploid, because theyre trout... :chuckle:
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Post by: Jonathan_S on November 07, 2012, 12:54:31 PM
hell no but not because theyre triploid, because theyre trout... :chuckle:

Hahaha, that's funny.  I triploid elk. 
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Post by: xbow on November 07, 2012, 04:38:57 PM
My buddy sent some more
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Post by: whack em on November 07, 2012, 06:09:24 PM
Must be a teenager in puberty - All horn, and no nuts.  Sorry, I couldn't resist. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 07, 2012, 07:12:17 PM
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The bull is a Criptoid / Cryptorchid, meaning his testes never dropped. Its a genetic thing and has kept him sterile, this is usually self resolved after age 2, he must be a young one, it also makes their testosterone do weird crap. there ya have it folks  :tup:

i answered this pages ago, he didn't castrate himself on a log  :chuckle:
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Post by: hardcorecarnivore on November 08, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
Perfect bull for this election year!
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Post by: TONTO on November 08, 2012, 08:08:28 PM
 Lack of testosterone, so the antlers don't harden and the velvet stays on. They also don't shed ,so I'm told. They just keep grown lightwieght antler and can grow some huge racks but more like sponge than bone. I hear most become winter kill do to the blood flow through the velvet dropping body temp.
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Post by: hillbillyhunting on November 09, 2012, 07:29:28 AM
The first buck i saw harvested was a cactus buck.  It had no nuts, but it didnt have velvet.  The antlers were a blueish color and softer than normal antlers.
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Post by: Lunchbox1981 on November 09, 2012, 07:47:04 AM
Bummer no Rocky Mountian Oysters.   :chuckle:

In Germany they are called a Perückenbock.  (Buck with a perm)  You can eat the meat because there is nothing wrong with it.  And the answers stating that it is due to a lack of testicles is place is correct and the Antlers are never shed.  Here is a link to one of the more famous ones from Germany http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Perueckenbock.JPG&filetimestamp=20090912143147 (http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Perueckenbock.JPG&filetimestamp=20090912143147)

He is located at the Hunting and fishing Museum in Munich.  If you are ever there it is a great museum that is real close to downtown.
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Post by: MuzzyHunter28 on November 09, 2012, 08:20:57 AM
That is very weird....It looks like he scraped something out of the Coral reef. Is it just a moldy long velvet material? Would he even taste good?
Title: freak elk
Post by: slim9300 on November 09, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
Crazy! Thanks for posting the pics.


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Post by: jackmaster on November 09, 2012, 03:27:00 PM
cant say i would have wasted a bullet on that nasty lookn thing......
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Post by: shedkid on November 09, 2012, 06:33:01 PM
Gross,I would pick the one on the right.
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Post by: Alchase on November 09, 2012, 07:18:16 PM
What is it with the SW elk, they have hoof rot and no nuts  :dunno:

Must be the water  :rolleyes:
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Post by: RifleRidge on November 09, 2012, 07:22:34 PM
Cactus bull is correct, three point minimum hmmmmmmmmm! :dunno:
:yeah: The bull in the first picture doesnt look legal to me! I dont think the bull in the first picture is the same as the one on the trail camera.

If Real. I would at least make a call To The Department of Fish And wildlife and email the photo's.. They love stuff like this... If real, They will be all over this..
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Post by: xXLojackXx on November 09, 2012, 07:54:46 PM
So you guys that wouldn't eat it:

Do you also not eat triploid trout?

Hell no! Especially the ones out of Beaver Lake   :o
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Post by: Elkrunner on November 12, 2012, 09:44:49 AM
Definately have never seen anything like that out in the woods before.
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Post by: erk444 on November 12, 2012, 07:40:11 PM
It has an eygaurd and a fork on top, how is that not legal?
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Post by: rock on November 14, 2012, 06:43:03 PM
that's probably the best tasting meat you'll get, no rutting smell, and taste like cow.
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Post by: skywalker253 on November 14, 2012, 11:53:09 PM
What is it with the SW elk, they have hoof rot and no nuts  :dunno:

Must be the water  :rolleyes:

Its all the westside rain. Causes depression and this is what happens!!
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Post by: huntnnw on November 15, 2012, 06:26:17 AM
Twilight bull  :chuckle:
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Post by: LipRipper! on November 15, 2012, 10:45:53 AM
WTF???? :o
:yeah:
Title: Re: freak elk
Post by: brew on November 15, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
not an elk story but 3 years ago my buddy's dad shot a  4 x 4 muley in wyoming middle october that was still in velvet...gutting him out he had no testes and while hauling/driving him out got stopped by the local game warden who took one look at the buck and said that he bet the buck didn't have any "walnuts"-said a couple bucks shot in that area the last few years had the same affiction...that would make me think its heridetary ?
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Post by: hillbillyhunting on November 15, 2012, 07:40:02 PM
not an elk story but 3 years ago my buddy's dad shot a  4 x 4 muley in wyoming middle october that was still in velvet...gutting him out he had no testes and while hauling/driving him out got stopped by the local game warden who took one look at the buck and said that he bet the buck didn't have any "walnuts"-said a couple bucks shot in that area the last few years had the same affiction...that would make me think its heridetary ?

But the genes could only be passed on through does?
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Post by: shadowless_nite on November 15, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
not an elk story but 3 years ago my buddy's dad shot a  4 x 4 muley in wyoming middle october that was still in velvet...gutting him out he had no testes and while hauling/driving him out got stopped by the local game warden who took one look at the buck and said that he bet the buck didn't have any "walnuts"-said a couple bucks shot in that area the last few years had the same affiction...that would make me think its heridetary ?

But the genes could only be passed on through does?

A gene could be a recessive gene carried by the mother and only expressed through its male offspring which is infertile. Since the mother could be a carrier of this particular genetic mutation it would be passed to its female off spring and expressed only through male offspring.
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Post by: jrebel on November 15, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Me and my wife were just talking and it made me think.  The hairy guys that do the caveman commercials....do they not have testicles?? 
Title: Re: freak elk
Post by: shadowless_nite on November 16, 2012, 04:18:03 AM
Me and my wife were just talking and it made me think.  The hairy guys that do the caveman commercials....do they not have testicles??

actually they have the opposite.... more testosterone= more manly features.
Title: Re: freak elk
Post by: rock on November 16, 2012, 09:45:46 AM
Male's could also carry the gene, if it were recessive, and heterozygous males would appear normal, while homozygous recessive males would be born without testes.
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