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Title: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: Fishstiq on November 14, 2012, 10:09:25 AM: I'm in the market for a .22lr semi auto rifle and am wondering what you folks' opinions are. Since .22 is so cheap, and really fun to shoot, and quiet enough to not bother the neighbors too much, that's the caliber I'm pretty much decided on for a daily plinking rifle. I really like S&W's M&P15 .22, that thing is great. My friend has one, and it's a blast to shoot. I have always liked the Ruger 10-22 also, very accurate and obviously time-tested. These are the main two I'm looking at, are there any others I should be considering? What are your thoughts on these two rifles? What about a different caliber, say .17?

:dunno:
Title: Re: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: quadrafire on November 14, 2012, 10:13:35 AM: Ruger 10-22
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Post by: xd2005 on November 14, 2012, 10:18:56 AM: Ruger 10-22.

Personally, I would not get a M&P. If I wanted an 'ar' type 22, I would spend a little more and get a regular ar and 22 conversion kit. Not really 'that' much more expensive, but options open up. :twocents:
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Post by: kentrek on November 14, 2012, 10:21:58 AM: go with the ruger

stay with the 22lr

with good shooting skills you can make up for the advantages of the 17 with out the cost
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Post by: Holg3107 on November 14, 2012, 10:25:26 AM: Quote
Ruger 10-22

:yeah: easiest decision in the world when it comes to buying a new gun.
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Post by: HazMat on November 14, 2012, 11:24:20 AM: If I was interested in adding accessories, I would choose the 10-22. That being said, I bought a Marlin 795 for a lot less. It shoots just as well and is a lot lighter.
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Post by: hillbilli on November 14, 2012, 11:32:50 AM: 10/22, stainless if you can afford it
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Post by: Special T on November 14, 2012, 11:44:18 AM: They don't offer either in 17HMR... it has too much pressure to run the semi auto.. you will only really find them in bolt actions. You CAN be one in the 17HMR2 but that is based off the 22lr case. I would go 10-22. It is like the Rem 700 action, or the AR platform. EVERYONE makes acessories for it. :twocents:
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Post by: Sportfury on November 14, 2012, 11:49:24 AM: I have a Thompson/Center .22 semi-auto. Straight shooter and great trigger. The only issue that I have with it is if you don't seat the ammo fully to the back of the magazine it will jam especially with full lead bullets.

I bought a Ruger for my daughter, but I do not like the trigger on it. Super heavy pull on the trigger and a new trigger for it cost almost as much or more than the gun itself.
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Post by: Mongo Hunter on November 14, 2012, 11:50:16 AM: Ruger 10-22! it was my first gun and there are parts everywhere and shoot great!
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Post by: gallion_t on November 14, 2012, 11:59:05 AM: Quote from: Sportfury on November 14, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
I have a Thompson/Center .22 semi-auto. Straight shooter and great trigger. The only issue that I have with it is if you don't seat the ammo fully to the back of the magazine it will jam especially with full lead bullets.

I bought a Ruger for my daughter, but I do not like the trigger on it. Super heavy pull on the trigger and a new trigger for it cost almost as much or more than the gun itself.

Buy the hammer and sear kit. I believe its about $40 and you can put it in yourself. Drops the trigger pole to about 2.5lbs if I remember correctly. I put one on mine by myself when I was about 14 so its not that difficult.
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Post by: gallion_t on November 14, 2012, 12:01:37 PM: Concerning the OP I would go with the ruger. Like you already stated it is time tested and they are great guns. The only thing I dont like about them are the factory clips. I have 3 or 4 and they have a tendency to get sticky and not feed all of the rounds through after a lot of use. I've heard good things about the Steel lips clips, but haven't tested them yet. Lots of great accesorries to go with it. You can make a really accurate gun for fairly cheap and they are just a blast to shoot.
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Post by: magnanimous_j on November 14, 2012, 12:02:12 PM: I must have the world's most finicky 10-22. I broke 2 magazines before figuring out what ammo it liked (definitely not golden boy), and the trigger is really heavy.
Title: Re: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: Woodchuck on November 14, 2012, 12:08:58 PM: Mags, use a republican trigger pull, will be much better. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: Fishstiq on November 14, 2012, 12:11:24 PM: Well, that's a pretty resounding answer! Looks like I'm in the market for a 10-22! :tup: Thanks everyone for your input, I appreciate it.

Quote from: Woodchuck on November 14, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Mags, use a republican trigger pull, will be much better. :chuckle: :chuckle:

I don't care who you are, that's funny chit right there!!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Bean Counter on November 14, 2012, 12:24:06 PM: My only complaint with Ruger's 10/.22 are the magazines. Seems most have feeding issues sooner or later :bash:

Still though, if its just for plinking, I don't think I'd drop the coin for an AR platform from S&W. :twocents:
Title: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: BK Dave on November 14, 2012, 12:27:51 PM: I have my original 10/22 I bought when I was 16yrs old
Many 22lrs have come and gone, but I'll not part with it! Still put 2-3000rnds a year through it
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Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2012, 12:42:00 PM: Go with the 10/22 then have some fun with it. The trigger pull issue is easily fixed.
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Post by: Fishstiq on November 14, 2012, 12:53:44 PM: Quote from: jackelope on November 14, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
Go with the 10/22 then have some fun with it. The trigger pull issue is easily fixed.

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Very nice rifle! For a 10-22, that's pretty much how I wanted to set one up! I wanted a good durable scope that's reliable out to 100yds or so, a good barrel, bipod and composite stock.

I know there are a bazillion manufacturers for 10-22 accessories. Anyone you guys would recommend using, or recommend staying away from?
Title: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2012, 02:12:20 PM: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F12%2F11%2F15%2Fpady8eme.jpg&hash=e82b59e3869cfb473cb6eba4bb94e7c9dce99b47)
Mine has a Hogue stock, tactical solutions .920 barrel, Nikon Buckmasters 3-9x40 scope, bolt buffer, can't remember what brand trigger parts(DIY hammer and sear) and that's it. I've found factory mags with the metsl lip don't jam. Plastic lipped aftermarket mags do at times jam.
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Post by: wraithen on November 14, 2012, 02:15:52 PM: I had a nightmare 10-22 when I was younger. My uncle couldn't get it to go more than 2 mags before jamming. Gunsmith couldn't figure it out either. Tried all kinds of different mags. I had a stuck case and a guy at a range came over to help me out. He laughed and told me how he had the exact same model and after complaining to ruger enough times, they sent him a new one. When he asked about the old one they told him to keep it and that they wouldn't use that line anymore anyway.

I know accessory lines can be a lifesaver but I plan on not doing much to a 22 rimfire rifle anyway. What about the savage?
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Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2012, 02:16:13 PM: I got a 10/22 and I can't get the damm thing to shoot - it feeds fine, just doesn't group

A CZ on the other hand is dead nuts on.

I'm not a fan of .22 LR auto's - gimme a bolt and clip feed it
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Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2012, 02:19:07 PM: my newest rimfire is a .17HMR

yes I admit it, I love it. damn thing is accurate!
Its a savage heavy barrel with accu trigger and laminated thumbhole stock
Title: Re: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: ckr on November 14, 2012, 02:46:27 PM: First is a Winchester 67a. Cut the barrel down to 18.5 and slimmed the stock on the table saw. Made it for my 7yr old. He can hit shot shells all day at 50yrds. Very accurate and the price was right.

Second is my 10-22 with a bull barrel, tapco stock, and a home made magazine to look more military like. It's a great shooter. I loved it for a while but I have decided I am much more of a bolt guy. We always end up taking the winnie over the ruger.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2012, 02:49:22 PM: 10/22 hands down. With the cost of ammo on the 17 and as much as I SHOOT with the 22. If I had a 17 I would be broke! It is way more spendy to feed and the 10/22 is just flat out a gun everyone should own.
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Post by: andersonjk4 on November 14, 2012, 03:01:53 PM: I have a Browning Buckmark that I absolutely love. It shoots great and looks just as good. They are a little spendy, but they come with a bull barrel and a nice thumbhole stock that you would have to pay extra for on a 10/22. They pull up and point like no other .22 I've shouldered and are very accurate. Another thing is they have the same action as their Buckmark pistols, so the clips are interchangeable. I would buy another in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: magnanimous_j on November 14, 2012, 03:06:39 PM: Quote from: andersonjk4 on November 14, 2012, 03:01:53 PM
I have a Browning Buckmark that I absolutely love. It shoots great and looks just as good. They are a little spendy, but they come with a bull barrel and a nice thumbhole stock that you would have to pay extra for on a 10/22. They pull up and point like no other .22 I've shouldered and are very accurate. Another thing is they have the same action as their Buckmark pistols, so the clips are interchangeable. I would buy another in a heartbeat.

That thing looks freaking sweet!
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Post by: andersonjk4 on November 14, 2012, 03:16:23 PM: Here is a picture of me letting my nephew shoot it. It was a little barrel heavy for him to hold on his own, but in the rest he could look through the scope and pull the trigger. He loves this gun. I can't bring it out around him without him hounding me to shoot it. I think he put about 100 rounds through it that day.
Title: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2012, 04:14:56 PM: Quote from: andersonjk4 on November 14, 2012, 03:01:53 PM
I have a Browning Buckmark that I absolutely love. It shoots great and looks just as good. They are a little spendy, but they come with a bull barrel and a nice thumbhole stock that you would have to pay extra for on a 10/22. They pull up and point like no other .22 I've shouldered and are very accurate. Another thing is they have the same action as their Buckmark pistols, so the clips are interchangeable. I would buy another in a heartbeat.

The price issue is a wash at the price they sell for. I've got the same money into my 10/22 including the scope as what those are selling for online. That is a way cool rifle though. Way to get the kids involved.
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Post by: andersonjk4 on November 14, 2012, 04:54:41 PM: Quote from: jackelope on November 14, 2012, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: andersonjk4 on November 14, 2012, 03:01:53 PM
I have a Browning Buckmark that I absolutely love. It shoots great and looks just as good. They are a little spendy, but they come with a bull barrel and a nice thumbhole stock that you would have to pay extra for on a 10/22. They pull up and point like no other .22 I've shouldered and are very accurate. Another thing is they have the same action as their Buckmark pistols, so the clips are interchangeable. I would buy another in a heartbeat.

The price issue is a wash at the price they sell for. I've got the same money into my 10/22 including the scope as what those are selling for online. That is a way cool rifle though. Way to get the kids involved.

The MSRP on Browning's website is way high. I think you can get into one for around $550 maybe cheaper online. That is still a lot for a .22 and you are right Jackelope you can probably totally deck out a 10/22 for that price. I have shot several 10/22's and much prefer my buckmark. I thing the clips are easier to load and they seem to feed a little. I already had a buckmark pistol, so the appeal of the same actions and interchangeable clips pretty much sold me from the beginning. They are both great guns. Ruger would not have sold as many 10/22's as they have if it wasn't a superb gun.
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Post by: JH on November 14, 2012, 04:58:01 PM: No question get the M&P 15-22. It is a great gun. I have a 10/22 as well but the 15-22 is more fun. It has the AR factor but is cheap and shoots anything with no problems. I have over 1500 rounds through mine and haven't had one problem. I like my 10/22 and have put who knows how many thousand rounds through it but have jams way too often.
Everytime we go shooting the 15-22 is the favorite of everyone who shoot it.

You cant go wrong between those two but the 15-22 is the better choice ... :twocents:
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Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2012, 05:13:07 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
10/22 hands down. With the cost of ammo on the 17 and as much as I SHOOT with the 22. If I had a 17 I would be broke! It is way more spendy to feed and the 10/22 is just flat out a gun everyone should own.

agree, if your shooting the cheap stuff in 550 round bricks.

If your shooting premium stuff though the price gap narrows quite a bit.
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Post by: Bofire on November 14, 2012, 06:00:39 PM: 10/22 you can do anything to it, easy!! If you have a problem Ruger will fix it. .22 LR is a great useful, underrated round.
Carl
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2012, 06:17:01 PM: Quote from: KFhunter on November 14, 2012, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
10/22 hands down. With the cost of ammo on the 17 and as much as I SHOOT with the 22. If I had a 17 I would be broke! It is way more spendy to feed and the 10/22 is just flat out a gun everyone should own.

agree, if your shooting the cheap stuff in 550 round bricks.

If your shooting premium stuff though the price gap narrows quite a bit.

That is true. I don't use the good stuff like cci 99% of the time. If I am yote hunting and packing the 22 rim then I do use the cci maxi mag. I run the federals and have been super super happy with them.
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Post by: Greenhorn on November 14, 2012, 06:25:49 PM: Bought my son a 10/22 stainless for fun but in particular to use at a local Appleseed shoot. The trigger was terribly heavy and it doesn't have an auto bolt release. These are both fixable by yourself if you have a dremel tool and some patience. We just looked on the internet for all kinds of upgrades for the 10/22 and you can find all kinds of instructional videos on youtube. We were able to lighten the trigger pull to a target type pull for free and also modify the auto bolt release. Put a scope on it and we were in business for very little $. We tried quite a variety of the bulk ammo just to see what grouped the best. My 18 year old son loves to shoot it over our many other rifles.
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Post by: snowninja on November 14, 2012, 06:39:53 PM: My Marlin 60 awesome shooter and accurate. Not as many add ons vs the 10/22. It can be picky though. My wife shoots it cuz she likes the cowboy look of it. I looked at the mp 15/22 but got a SIG 522 instead. No regrets at all. Never had a problem with any ammo. Super fun to shoot and reliability is thru the roof.
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Post by: tlbradford on November 14, 2012, 06:45:11 PM: Browning auto. Ultra reliable, lightweight, and breaks down into two pieces with a just a twist and pull so you can shove it in a backpack. If you want to accessorize than a 10-22 is the obvious choice.
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Post by: huntandjeep on November 14, 2012, 07:30:50 PM: Another vote for the 10/22. They are fun as hell, you can do everything you want and more with them. Just stay away from the "ultimate build" section over on rimfirecentral.com they will open you up to all kinds of cool things to do to a 10/22. I didnt :chuckle:
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Post by: Scott on November 14, 2012, 07:45:58 PM: Quote from: JH on November 14, 2012, 04:58:01 PM
No question get the M&P 15-22. It is a great gun. I have a 10/22 as well but the 15-22 is more fun. It has the AR factor but is cheap and shoots anything with no problems. I have over 1500 rounds through mine and haven't had one problem. I like my 10/22 and have put who knows how many thousand rounds through it but have jams way too often.
Everytime we go shooting the 15-22 is the favorite of everyone who shoot it.

You cant go wrong between those two but the 15-22 is the better choice ... :twocents:
I shoot a lot...Agree 100%
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Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 15, 2012, 06:34:46 PM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2012, 02:49:22 PM
the 10/22 is just flat out a gun everyone should own.

:yeah:

-Steve
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Post by: quadrafire on November 15, 2012, 06:46:53 PM: Quote from: huntandjeep on November 14, 2012, 07:30:50 PM
Another vote for the 10/22. They are fun as hell, you can do everything you want and more with them. Just stay away from the "ultimate build" section over on rimfirecentral.com they will open you up to all kinds of cool things to do to a 10/22. I didnt :chuckle:
:yeah:
I went there today.....because you said NOT TO....... :bdid:
I signed up as a member. It is awsome the amt of information there.
I also have a Marlin 39A and they have a section just for that.....Go figure
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Post by: mountainman on November 15, 2012, 06:55:03 PM: 10/22! unless you can fork out for a Volquartson!
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Post by: tlbradford on November 15, 2012, 07:26:40 PM: Well heck, how about an anschutz then?
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Post by: Young-gun on November 15, 2012, 07:46:05 PM: Ruger 10/22 just a perfect gun i would say, long lasting, fun, affordable, small caliber rifle :tup:
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Post by: thinkingman on November 15, 2012, 09:23:15 PM: 10/22 is a great start for a tinkerer. If you aren't picky and just want to plinking, they work great. mine has maybe 5 original parts.
The TC and Buckmark are great ideas. I love my BM pistol.
Once you buy an Anschutz, you are spoiled, but no autos.
CZ Brno makes a couple of autos that are pretty good.
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Post by: satchel3006 on November 15, 2012, 10:34:55 PM: 10/22. Here you go the best of both
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi194.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz290%2Fsatchel3006%2F2AA5DFA8-A6BD-4D73-BD27-6EBF63B17909-1070-000001F23149015B.jpg&hash=588d6aac7b90a493bf2ad85d759930b8c3fd9818)
Ruger SR22 (with a few extra goodies)
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Post by: Kioti on November 16, 2012, 05:56:13 AM: There is only one...Ruger 10/22.

I bought a 10/22 for the wife, stainless, synthetic stock, and topped with a Leupold VX 1 2-7x33mm scope. The thing is a tack driver. I can't get it out of the wife's hands...she loves it.
Maybe one day I will get to shoot it... :dunno:
Title: "Best" .22lr?
Post by: jackelope on November 16, 2012, 07:26:40 AM: Thinking about a little rimfire barrel for my Encore one of these days.
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Post by: headshot5 on November 16, 2012, 07:51:13 AM: Quote
Thinking about a little rimfire barrel for my Encore one of these days.

Always a great idea. You can practice all year with your hunting platform. This is how I got good shooting my Contender pistol. Just shoot starlings all year then put your centerfire barrel on and go hunting. Nothing better for field position shooting.
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Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 17, 2012, 04:07:23 PM: i wouldn't trade my CZ 452 for anything...well, maybe a cooper or anschutz but still :chuckle:

i feel pretty satisfied shooting a 50 round box through that little bolt action repeater. with an auto for some reason i don't even bother unless i've got a bulk pack. accurate little gun too, 5 round groups the size of a quarter with good ammo(cci standard velocity is my favorite).
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Post by: Arnbo on November 17, 2012, 04:48:10 PM: For the money Remington 597
But one more here for the 10-22