Post by: bighunter on November 22, 2012, 10:34:55 AM
Post by: SeaRun1 on November 22, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
SR1
Post by: Angus on November 22, 2012, 05:13:25 PM
Post by: bighunter on November 23, 2012, 03:58:25 PM
Post by: Mark Youngblood on November 26, 2012, 05:43:57 PM
300 grain Hornady SST
110 grains FFFg
125 yards about a 3 inch group with factory sites
Post by: Tim in Wa. on December 15, 2012, 09:12:03 AM
Tim
Post by: bighunter on December 15, 2012, 11:24:50 AM
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Post by: splitshot on December 22, 2012, 11:36:50 AM
Post by: Angus on December 22, 2012, 08:52:13 PM
I don't know of any Bi-Marts on the west side. I've only seen them in Yakima and Ellensburg. Oh, and I think there is one in McMinnville, Oregon.
Vantucky and Washougal. :tup:
Post by: Sabotloader on December 23, 2012, 08:22:14 AM
Where is Bi Mart ? I'm in western Wa. and looking for the best deal I can find on a Bighorn.
Tim
I was in Wholesale Sports (Kennewick) this week and they had a camo Big Horn in the area of $350 but even better they had the Knight DISC Extreme for $400+..
Post by: splitshot on December 23, 2012, 10:00:15 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on December 24, 2012, 08:16:06 AM
why is a knight disc so good? does it shoot farther, kill more stuff, look better, etc ? mike w
I can share my thoughts, but you'll have to remember I am biased as I have, shoot, and hunt with a couple of Knight DISC's. I hunt wiht a DISC both in rifle season and ML season here in Idaho. I am not sure that you can do that in Washington.
Back to your questions... You did not really ask but I would like to add a question... is it the best ML? Probably not for everyone because we are have different opinions about what we might be looking for. So it will not ever fill everyones bill.
OK questions...
1. why is a knight disc so good? I think the best answer for this would be quality. The Green Mountain barreled action is solid and made here in the states using top of the line ordinace stainless steel. Knight guarantees the accuracy of the rifle to 200 yards. And with the developement of the new Knight company their 'customer service' continues you get better and more responsive trying to return to the service the original Knight Company offered. The rifle itself may be the strongest and most durable ML rifle on the market.
One of the advantages of the DISC, could possibly be its versitilty and available options. The rifle can shoot a variety bullets accurately from 357 cal bullets to 458 projectiles, with a wide variety of sabots that work well. The ability to shoot all of the different ignition systems, I would think would be a large advantage also. The ability of the DISC to handle the percussion system and provide added protection to the cap in a bolt that pins the cap close to the breech plug, offers some natural debris protection to the breech.
In my mind I could go on and add several other thoughts...
2. Does it shoot farther? I am not sure of that one, I limit my shots to 200 yards but the guys in the midwest are shooting 400 yards across corn fields for deer - that is a little much for me. but, in the end yes others will do the same job.
3. Kill more stuff? I would suppose that would be decided by the guy pulling the trigger - but, I would think any other quality rifle could do the same in the harvest department.
4. Look better? For myself I really do like the looks, feel, and fit - but again we are all not the same - Heck I drive a Ford F250 and according the the Chevy Mayan End of the World Commercial - I would not make it - Only Chevy drivers would.
5. Etc? Quality - Durablility - Accuracy - Rugged - Versitily - Safety Features - Stainless - Functional - Customer Service - All American Made - And they work.
Just my thoughts - but as stated - I am biased, but I really do like my Whites, Omega, and even the Triumph. And for years my Remington 700ML's were the favorite. In fact I really do wish Remington had stayed in the market with the Remington 700 ML.
Post by: HoofsandWings on December 25, 2012, 07:39:43 AM
Generally speaking, you only have one shot, so make it a good one.
If you have hunted with a high end modern rifle with top of the line scope, etc, going to a ML is something you have to get used to. My problem was I was afraid of pouring the powder down the barrel, then the bullet and tamping it.
It took a while to be comfortable doing that.
I finally had the opportunity of using the ml a couple of weeks ago when I shot a 4 point deer at a 100 yards through a peep sight. Very different experience from a modern rifle.
Post by: Sabotloader on December 25, 2012, 07:49:21 AM
I finally had the opportunity of using the ml a couple of weeks ago when I shot a 4 point deer at a 100 yards through a peep sight. Very different experience from a modern rifle.
But wasn't a really good feeling in the end... to know you have accomplished something that a very small minority of hunters have actually done....
Post by: Jason on December 25, 2012, 08:44:40 AM
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Post by: HoofsandWings on December 25, 2012, 09:09:12 AM
I do not know how small of a minority you are talking about. I see lots of pictures here and elsewhere of deer and elk taken by a ML. Last year 1 out of 4 muzzleloader hunters shot 2062 deer and 1 out 8 shot 1296 elk.I finally had the opportunity of using the ml a couple of weeks ago when I shot a 4 point deer at a 100 yards through a peep sight. Very different experience from a modern rifle.But wasn't a really good feeling in the end... to know you have accomplished something that a very small minority of hunters have actually done....
Post by: Sabotloader on December 25, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
I do not know how small of a minority you are talking about. I see lots of pictures here and elsewhere of deer and elk taken by a ML. Last year 1 out of 4 muzzleloader hunters shot 2062 deer and 1 out 8 shot 1296 elk.I finally had the opportunity of using the ml a couple of weeks ago when I shot a 4 point deer at a 100 yards through a peep sight. Very different experience from a modern rifle.But wasn't a really good feeling in the end... to know you have accomplished something that a very small minority of hunters have actually done....
It has been computed that less than 16% of American Hunters across the US hunt with a muzzleloader. Of that percentage 4% use sidehammers or rock sparkers. I can not remember which magazine that was in, but remember tht is across the US.
Centerfire rifle hunters comprise the biggest share of hunters. If I remember correctly there are more archers across the US than ML Hunters.
In Idaho, I would suggest but do not know for sure, you would find those percentages to very close over here.