Post by: marlin on November 25, 2012, 03:05:57 PM
One was really fresh, it was a spike buck, and it was nearly complete, just the backstraps gone.. WTH. When I got my doe this year we used everything but the head and feet. I dont get it.
Post by: Huntbear on November 25, 2012, 03:07:44 PM
Post by: raydog on November 25, 2012, 04:14:28 PM
Capitol Forest = Bough cutters that do not speak English = poaching... I would call WDFW and get them to check it out at the very least it is wanton waste of a game animal...:yeah:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on November 25, 2012, 04:18:55 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 25, 2012, 04:22:00 PM
it's illegal wasting at the very least. Most likely poaching
Post by: actionshooter on November 25, 2012, 04:25:04 PM
Capitol Forest = Bough cutters that do not speak English = poaching... I would call WDFW and get them to check it out at the very least it is wanton waste of a game animal...
I gurantee more deer go out under salal brush than legal deer.
Post by: dscubame on November 25, 2012, 05:14:16 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on November 25, 2012, 05:20:03 PM
Post by: runamuk on November 25, 2012, 05:53:24 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 25, 2012, 05:58:17 PM
Post by: bearpaw on November 25, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
Post by: hornhunter1987 on November 27, 2012, 02:18:57 AM
Post by: Harborhunter on November 27, 2012, 08:02:27 AM
Post by: Huntboy on November 27, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
REPORT IT!! MAKE A CALL!!
:yeah:
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 27, 2012, 08:36:02 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on November 27, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.
How about making it illegal (brush picking) ...Or at the Very LEAST make them get licenses and enforce it heavily! They have created more fees and licenses over the last few sessions and called them fees...WHY NOT this one?
Post by: bobcat on November 27, 2012, 10:03:33 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 27, 2012, 10:06:48 AM
My understanding is that one guy (the boss) will get the commercial forest products license/permit/keys and that guy is legal. Usually the same guy that owns the vans and the stash house. Then he goes around and rounds up the illegals. You might miss the brochures at the issuing offices, though, because all I've ever seen are in Spanish.they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.
How about making it illegal (brush picking) ...Or at the Very LEAST make them get licenses and enforce it heavily! They have created more fees and licenses over the last few sessions and called them fees...WHY NOT this one?
Post by: Curly on November 27, 2012, 10:17:21 AM
They are out there littering, poaching, and stealing cedar bows but are exempt from the DP. Unbelievable......... :bash:
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 27, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
Pickers live on next-to-nothing. They are absolutely qualified as poor. Some are legally here and some are criminal aliens. In either case, they don't get big bucks for what they harvest or everyone would be doing it. If someone who was hungry and poor killed a deer to feed his family, do you think he would take the whole deer or just the backstraps? I believe a poor person would take everything. This appears to be thrill killing, not subsistence. Point at some white guys. They've most likely done this.
Post by: Curly on November 27, 2012, 10:46:41 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 27, 2012, 10:49:25 AM
That is a good point in this particular case, Pman. It is hard to say who did the crime. But the fact remains that brush pickers have been known to do poaching.
Yes, they have, and usually take out everything when they do. If you're poor and find a bag of groceries lying about, you don't look through it, take the candy and leave. You take the whole bag.
Post by: jaymark6655 on November 27, 2012, 10:52:28 AM
So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction.
Pickers live on next-to-nothing. They are absolutely qualified as poor. Some are legally here and some are criminal aliens. In either case, they don't get big bucks for what they harvest or everyone would be doing it. If someone who was hungry and poor killed a deer to feed his family, do you think he would take the whole deer or just the backstraps? I believe a poor person would take everything. This appears to be thrill killing, not subsistence. Point at some white guys. They've most likely done this.
True, but poor people in a rush or lazy wouldn't take everything. I am not sure I would say it was a white person, but I am not about to say it was any other race either.
I do hope they are caught.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 27, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction.
Pickers live on next-to-nothing. They are absolutely qualified as poor. Some are legally here and some are criminal aliens. In either case, they don't get big bucks for what they harvest or everyone would be doing it. If someone who was hungry and poor killed a deer to feed his family, do you think he would take the whole deer or just the backstraps? I believe a poor person would take everything. This appears to be thrill killing, not subsistence. Point at some white guys. They've most likely done this.
True, but poor people in a rush or lazy wouldn't take everything. I am not sure I would say it was a white person, but I am not about to say it was any other race either.
I do hope they are caught.
This is a comment i can get behind. :tup: I hope so, too.
Post by: WSU on November 27, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 27, 2012, 11:22:20 AM
Sounds like lazy hunters to me. If someone does poach a deer, it seems likely that they wouldn't sit next to the road and carve the backstraps off. It is more likely they would throw the deer in their rig and get the hell out of there before they got caught. I find it interesting that there is no indication that brushpickers (or anyone other than lazy hunters) did this and everyone is immediately convinced it was illegal aliens.[/b]
Yep, it's kind of where I was going with that.
Post by: bobcat on November 27, 2012, 11:26:26 AM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 27, 2012, 04:08:09 PM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on November 27, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
they busted some brush pickers in shelton a few years ago with 15 deer under there brush. mostly does and fawns. they were catching them with gill nets and selling the meat.
How about making it illegal (brush picking) ...Or at the Very LEAST make them get licenses and enforce it heavily! They have created more fees and licenses over the last few sessions and called them fees...WHY NOT this one?
My understanding is that one guy (the boss) will get the commercial forest products license/permit/keys and that guy is legal. Usually the same guy that owns the vans and the stash house. Then he goes around and rounds up the illegals. You might miss the brochures at the issuing offices, though, because all I've ever seen are in Spanish.
"So you guys have decided that brush pickers are the culprits? Interesting conclusion. But the evidence seems to point in a different direction."
No pianoman, I was responding to the post quoted! Sorry about the :jacked: Really hope he reported the original topic subject
Post by: runamuk on November 27, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
how does it point to lazy hunters? it could be thrill killers.....kids...drunken monkeys.... :dunno: I mentioned brush pickers because they are often also growing pot and poaching if you live in this area you are pretty aware of how prolific the problem is. Doesn't matter if it was rabid cows if no one turns it in it doesn't get investigated if not investigated it keeps happening unchecked then we here about more areas with fewer animals come hunting season and begin he finger pointing session all over again :)Sounds like lazy hunters to me. If someone does poach a deer, it seems likely that they wouldn't sit next to the road and carve the backstraps off. It is more likely they would throw the deer in their rig and get the hell out of there before they got caught. I find it interesting that there is no indication that brushpickers (or anyone other than lazy hunters) did this and everyone is immediately convinced it was illegal aliens.[/b]
Yep, it's kind of where I was going with that.
Post by: buckhorn2 on November 27, 2012, 09:25:00 PM