Post by: kisfish on November 26, 2012, 06:14:19 PM
Post by: lokidog on November 26, 2012, 06:21:44 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 26, 2012, 06:23:27 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 26, 2012, 06:24:28 PM
Post by: bankwalker on November 26, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Nice! and look at the size of that doughnut,i woulda been happy with the hole :tung: Looks kinda like the Satsop river too
Definitely not the satsop with those water conditions. I sure wish it would hurry up and drop into shape :bash: it's close though
Post by: Encore 280 on November 26, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 26, 2012, 07:07:52 PM
Post by: kisfish on November 26, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 27, 2012, 11:51:16 AM
Post by: kisfish on November 27, 2012, 02:38:56 PM
Post by: WSU on November 27, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
Wouldn't be fishing there if it was closed. :bdid: It ain't worth a ticket. All c&r except for 2 steelhead
You released those fish?
Post by: kisfish on November 27, 2012, 03:14:33 PM
Post by: WSU on November 27, 2012, 04:09:18 PM
You should not be putting your hands inside the gills of fish you are going to release because it can injure and kill them. Also, from page 13 of the regs, “It is unlawful to totally remove salmon, steelhead, or Dolly Varden/Bull Trout from the water if it is unlawful to retain those fish, or if the angler subsequently releases the salmon, steelhead, Dolly Varden/Bull Trout.”
Even where legal you also should not be holding them out of the water for so long. Imagine sprinting a mile and then someone holding your head underwater. Same thing to the fish. All that said, good job on getting into some nice fish!
Post by: kisfish on November 27, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 27, 2012, 05:24:15 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on November 27, 2012, 05:27:10 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 27, 2012, 06:07:17 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 27, 2012, 10:00:41 PM
Since there were 2 of you, one person can tail the fish while the other fights it. When the fish is tired enough (starts to lay on its side) get into knee deep water or so and grab the fish around the wrist of the tail. This can be more effective if you have on a rag wool or cotton glove. Its going to freak but just hold firm and when it calms down you can slide your other hand up under its pec fins, the ones right behind the gills, avoid the gills!
Once you have it that way, its not going anywhere. Have your partner there come down with some pliers and pop the hook out. Fish never has to leave the water.
If your by yourself, just barely slide the head of the fish onto the bank and then give the fish a little slack, and tail it the same way. Quite a bit harder, but can be done easily with practice.
When taking photos of the fish, especially of your partner holding it, hold them the same way you tailed them and keep the very bottom of the fish in the water. The picture taker should get down close to the water level as well to make for good photos. I'll post a couple for reference.
Your other option, which isn't to hard where your fishing there, is just to bring a net. Get a good rubber mesh one that won't hurt them and won't tangle your hooks up into a disaster either. This makes it painless.
This seems like a lot of work, but its worth it if you are releasing these fish. I've been guiding anglers for over 10 years now and its always frustrating to see fish get abused and then released. They are tougher then we give them credit for but they did just complete a pretty miraculous journey, make it as easy for them as possible now that they are there.
Also, a lot of people on here will bash you for the pics, but fail to offer any real advice. If you don't know, then you just don't, so hopefully this helped. Please feel free to pm me and I'd be happy talk to you. I'll be down that way in January or February sometime to visit family near Bay Center, maybe we can hook up and go try to hook up on some steel!
Post by: JLS on November 27, 2012, 10:05:08 PM
Here are a few options for releasing fish without removing them from the water. You were wearing waders so they should be easy for ya.
Since there were 2 of you, one person can tail the fish while the other fights it. When the fish is tired enough (starts to lay on its side) get into knee deep water or so and grab the fish around the wrist of the tail. This can be more effective if you have on a rag wool or cotton glove. Its going to freak but just hold firm and when it calms down you can slide your other hand up under its pec fins, the ones right behind the gills, avoid the gills!
Once you have it that way, its not going anywhere. Have your partner there come down with some pliers and pop the hook out. Fish never has to leave the water.
If your by yourself, just barely slide the head of the fish onto the bank and then give the fish a little slack, and tail it the same way. Quite a bit harder, but can be done easily with practice.
When taking photos of the fish, especially of your partner holding it, hold them the same way you tailed them and keep the very bottom of the fish in the water. The picture taker should get down close to the water level as well to make for good photos. I'll post a couple for reference.
Your other option, which isn't to hard where your fishing there, is just to bring a net. Get a good rubber mesh one that won't hurt them and won't tangle your hooks up into a disaster either. This makes it painless.
This seems like a lot of work, but its worth it if you are releasing these fish. I've been guiding anglers for over 10 years now and its always frustrating to see fish get abused and then released. They are tougher then we give them credit for but they did just complete a pretty miraculous journey, make it as easy for them as possible now that they are there.
Also, a lot of people on here will bash you for the pics, but fail to offer any real advice. If you don't know, then you just don't, so hopefully this helped. Please feel free to pm me and I'd be happy talk to you. I'll be down that way in January or February sometime to visit family near Bay Center, maybe we can hook up and go try to hook up on some steel!
Thank you for providing some constructive and helpful input here :tup:! In reading this, I got the impression the OP just didn't know better? It's nice and refreshing to see a kind and classy offer to help.
Not to hijack, but here's a funny story about releasing fish. I was fishing the Snake River in Yellowstone NP. I caught and released a nice cuttie. I thought he was fine when I released him, but he went down through the riffle a little disoriented. Next thing I know, KAWAPP! An osprey nails this fish and has sushi for lunch :o
Post by: Swannytheswan on November 27, 2012, 10:23:31 PM
Thank you for providing some constructive and helpful input here :tup:! In reading this, I got the impression the OP just didn't know better? It's nice and refreshing to see a kind and classy offer to help.
:yeah:
and kudos for taking constructive criticism and instruction well...not to many do that these days it's to easy on the internet to fly off the handle and start throwing names around. Good on ya Kisfish! :tup: :tup:
Post by: wrangler on November 27, 2012, 10:40:30 PM
Post by: TangoU on November 27, 2012, 10:46:36 PM
Here are a few options for releasing fish without removing them from the water. You were wearing waders so they should be easy for ya.
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Hey 7mmfan, Two things: 1) I'm a fan, too. :) 2) Also a thanks and kudos for posting some very helpful advice to the OP. Responses like yours are what makes reading the rest of the trash talk bearable. :tup:
Post by: WSU on November 28, 2012, 10:44:16 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 28, 2012, 10:45:54 AM
Post by: kisfish on November 28, 2012, 11:02:16 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 28, 2012, 11:09:05 AM
Post by: singleshot12 on November 28, 2012, 02:55:30 PM
Sounds like kisfish didn't know any better. Like I said, people aren't born with the knowledge on how to properly handle fish. Good for him for asking for advice and trying to learn. I don't see why people feel the need to bash him after he asks for advice? I'm the first one to bash someone who knows better or should know better, but kisfish is trying to do the right thing. :twocents:
My opinion is people should learn those sort of things before taking up fishing especially on a C&R river. It is the ethical and responsible thing to do. So some sort of bashing should be in order. Nothing irks me much more than seeing people c&r fish after fish and end up seeing half of them go belly up. It is clearly stated in the regs how to properly release a fish. No excuse for not knowing :twocents:
Post by: h20hunter on November 28, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: WSU on November 28, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
Sounds like kisfish didn't know any better. Like I said, people aren't born with the knowledge on how to properly handle fish. Good for him for asking for advice and trying to learn. I don't see why people feel the need to bash him after he asks for advice? I'm the first one to bash someone who knows better or should know better, but kisfish is trying to do the right thing. :twocents:
My opinion is people should learn those sort of things before taking up fishing especially on a C&R river. It is the ethical and responsible thing to do. So some sort of bashing should be in order. Nothing irks me much more than seeing people c&r fish after fish and end up seeing half of them go belly up. It is clearly stated in the regs how to properly release a fish. No excuse for not knowing :twocents:
I agree, but think that educating him (which he proved receptive to) is more effective than simply bashing him. I'm willing to be a lot less fish will be harmed now that some people took the time to educate the OP on the proper thing to do instead of just ripping him for doing it wrong.
Post by: 7mmfan on November 28, 2012, 09:55:51 PM
If you live down there you may know some of my family. They've been down there for a long time and work in the oyster business.
Take it easy.
Post by: Heartsblood on November 29, 2012, 09:16:49 AM
Post by: kisfish on November 29, 2012, 10:40:24 AM
Yeah but...... didja really hafta remove the donut picture??? :chuckle: :chuckle: :dunno:
Heartsblood, I will get a pic of the doughnut on the next fishing trip for ya.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 30, 2012, 09:58:11 PM
Post by: kisfish on December 01, 2012, 09:35:57 AM