Post by: Fishaholic on November 26, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
Post by: 700xcr on November 27, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
(1) 4.4grs. of Hodgdon Titegroup powder, CCI 300 primer and a Montanna Gold 230gr. CMJ or HP bullet.
(2) 8.0grs. of Accurate Arms #5 powder, CCI 300 primer and Montanna Gold 230gr. CMJ or HP bullet.
Good groups with both loads and pleasure to shoot.
Post by: Huntbear on November 27, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
I have two load so far that work really well in my XDM 45acp.
(1) 4.4grs. of Hodgdon Titegroup powder, CCI 300 primer and a Montanna Gold 230gr. CMJ or HP bullet.
(2) 8.0grs. of Accurate Arms #5 powder, CCI 300 primer and Montanna Gold 230gr. CMJ or HP bullet.
Good groups with both loads and pleasure to shoot.
Wonder how those loads would work with XTPs ... might have to try it out. since I have everything but the powder.
Post by: 700xcr on November 27, 2012, 07:38:13 PM
Only reason I have usied Montanna Gold Bullet is because two other buddies of mine order 3000 bullets. We split the cost and bullets. The Montanna Gold HP bullet looks like a XTP bullet but gold color jacket.I have two load so far that work really well in my XDM 45acp.
(1) 4.4grs. of Hodgdon Titegroup powder, CCI 300 primer and a Montanna Gold 230gr. CMJ or HP bullet.
(2) 8.0grs. of Accurate Arms #5 powder, CCI 300 primer and Montanna Gold 230gr. CMJ or HP bullet.
Good groups with both loads and pleasure to shoot.
Wonder how those loads would work with XTPs ... might have to try it out. since I have everything but the powder.
Post by: 300rum on November 28, 2012, 07:35:11 AM
Don't use Titegroup with "regular" lead bullets, make sure they are moly coated or jacketed. Titegroup burns very hot and will smoke plain lead bullets, you will look like a choo-choo train! To answer your question, Titegroup is perfect for the XTP's.
If you are shooting plain lead bullets, use Clays (not Universal Clays) or WST (Winchester Super Target). I prefer WST as it is softer shooting and meters much better than Clays, Clays is also much "snapier" in recoil at the same power factor. Winchester 231 is also a favorite of mine but it is a little dirtier than WST. The only thing that you have to worry about with WST is that it is reverse temp sensitive. When it is hot outside WST will shoot with less power if you leave the ammo out in the sun, it can be quite noticeable but no problem unless you are shooting competition. I haven't gotten it hot enough where it won't cycle the slide though.
The good thing about Titegroup is that it is the cheapest followed by Clays and then WST/W231, that is why I use it. Titegroup, as I said is a very hot, violent powder, and will heat your barrel quicker than the other powders (it is much more noticeable), I just keep shooting though.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 28, 2012, 08:25:22 AM
ddjj1991, what pistola are you shooting? (Glock does not recommend lead bullets in their polygonal barrels).
Tha said, much of 300Rum's information is great. For light target loads, a 185gn or 200gn LSWC or LRN bumped by 4 to 4.4gns of Bullseye is a great plinker but a lighter recoil spring may be required for the lighter load. For warmer loads I've used win231 pushing a 265gn LTC on bowling pins that results in devistating impact that would be great as a hunting round. (work up your loads with safety in mind)
-Steve
Post by: thinkingman on November 28, 2012, 10:15:47 AM
Post by: Huntbear on November 28, 2012, 10:22:53 AM
I use nothing but Laser Cast for my lead bullets. Both 45 acp and 44 Spl. They work great and no need for the "butt pan"(as my buddies kid called it... :chuckle: :chuckle: ) to stop the deformation of the lead.
Post by: Wazukie on November 28, 2012, 10:37:54 AM
Post by: Fishaholic on November 29, 2012, 12:05:51 AM
Post by: krism83 on November 29, 2012, 12:26:20 AM
Chrono'd at 972 fps, If I remember correctly the pressure is 17,800 CUP
Great load though, love shooting it from my buddies XDs
Post by: fish vacuum on November 29, 2012, 01:15:55 AM
.45acp wouldn't be my first choice for hunting. It would be really far down my list of hunting choices.
Post by: thinkingman on November 29, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
For plinking and targets, I'd use whatever is cheap.Same thing I was thinking.
.45acp wouldn't be my first choice for hunting. It would be really far down my list of hunting choices.
Post by: prperrigo on November 29, 2012, 09:29:56 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on November 30, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
.45acp wouldn't be my first choice for hunting. It would be really far down my list of hunting choices.
I think that is a fair statement, but realize that a 45acp in the hands of a good shooter can still take a Blacktail/Whitetail doe at close range. A lot of people used to shoot Mountain lions out of trees with 38spl. No reason a 45acp can't do the same. Not my first choice for handgun hunting either, but if the load is right it is possible. I know a guy that hunts Yotes with a 45-70.. (The doggies just kinda rattle when he picks one up.. No exit hole.)
-Steve