Post by: duckmen1 on December 03, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
loaded up 180gr. partitions going 2860fps with same accuracy. Might try that load next year.
anybody else have any success with these bullets
Post by: Gutpile on December 03, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
Post by: gasman on December 03, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
Post by: ckr on December 03, 2012, 07:07:35 PM
Post by: blackdog on December 03, 2012, 07:14:07 PM
Post by: Blacklab on December 03, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
Post by: Huntbear on December 03, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
The 225 gr. Accubond in out .338s goes out the barrel at 2850 fps. Worked flawlessly at 25 yards and at 645 yards on bull elk. Can not ask more than that..
Post by: Bob33 on December 03, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
No offense but you can easily get more velocity out of a 300 mag with 165 grains.
If you're happy with that no problem. :tup:
Post by: Dan-o on December 03, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
Post by: kentrek on December 03, 2012, 09:15:51 PM
"Been loading 165gr. partitions this year with intentions on hunting with them and had accuracy at one inch groups going 2910 out the muzzle with 300wsm."
No offense but you can easily get more velocity out of a 300 mag with 165 grains.
If you're happy with that no problem. :tup:
while im not shooting partitions,with bergers ive noticed,after getting more than a few bloody, that they perform better on animals at slower speeds...dad an uncle nev liked FAST partitions saying they didnt hold up,but who knows what kinda speed they were pushing
maybe theres a sweet spot for partitions too ?????
Post by: Dan-o on December 03, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
My 160's leave my 7MM at about 3000 fps, as I recall.
Post by: Gutpile on December 04, 2012, 06:54:29 AM
"Been loading 165gr. partitions this year with intentions on hunting with them and had accuracy at one inch groups going 2910 out the muzzle with 300wsm."
No offense but you can easily get more velocity out of a 300 mag with 165 grains.
If you're happy with that no problem. :tup:
while im not shooting partitions,with bergers ive noticed,after getting more than a few bloody, that they perform better on animals at slower speeds...dad an uncle nev liked FAST partitions saying they didnt hold up,but who knows what kinda speed they were pushing
maybe theres a sweet spot for partitions too ?????
They probably said that because partitions shed the front half. Its a common complaint but thats what they are supposed to do. The front half expands rapidly and violently and the rear half holds together and pushes through the animal. thats why there's typically quite a lot of blood shot when you kill and animal with a partition. Ive recovered a couple and the front half was gone. Anyways just thought I'd throw that out there as I see this complaint about them a lot but its completely normal.
If they had the B.C. of the accubond it's be all I'd use.
Post by: duckmen1 on December 04, 2012, 02:29:46 PM
Post by: littlemac on December 04, 2012, 03:13:41 PM
Between me, my son and brother in the last nine years we have 12 elk with my guns. I shoot a 340 Wthrby mag, 210gr and loan them my 300 Wthrby mag, 180gr. I have alway been impressed with the partition and how intact it remains for the damage it makes penetrating a shoulder or both.
I have recovered several of the bullets, usually through both shoulders and buried just under the hide.
Post by: Curly on December 04, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Post by: kentrek on December 04, 2012, 03:51:20 PM
Here is pic of partition (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7143093/1) after stopping in the offside of an elk.
def some partition haters there..lol
idk how they could say that bullet doesnt do its job when you pulled it from a DEAD elk :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on December 04, 2012, 03:53:29 PM
Post by: Curly on December 04, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
Here is pic of partition (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7143093/1) after stopping in the offside of an elk.
def some partition haters there..lol
idk how they could say that bullet doesnt do its job when you pulled it from a DEAD elk :chuckle:
Yeah, I hate Core-lokts like some other guys said over on that thread too. But to each their own..........lots of guys love Core-lokt bullets and partitions. Lots of bullets choices out there these days. :tup:
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 04, 2012, 05:01:59 PM
I like partitions but prefer accubonds.
:tup: :tup: :tup:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 04, 2012, 05:07:43 PM
I have always been a die hard partition guy. My buddy that works there talked to me into trying the accubonds a few years ago. I have loved them!!! I shoot them in almost every rifle I own. Killed more then a few critters with both. He also got me talked into the etip in a few magnums and I have had great luck with them as well.
The only thing I won't buy from them are the sporting handgun. They preformed like crap in both guns I shot them threw.
Post by: bearpaw on December 04, 2012, 05:26:59 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 04, 2012, 05:33:32 PM
Post by: JohnVH on December 04, 2012, 05:38:43 PM
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on December 04, 2012, 05:54:56 PM
Between my dad and I:
175 grain 7mm bullet at 2950 fps, over 30 kills, no problems
180 grain 3006, at 2600, around 20 kills, no bullet problems
165 grain 308, at 2650, around 10 kills, no bullet problems
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 04, 2012, 07:03:05 PM
:yeah:
I have always been a die hard partition guy. My buddy that works there talked to me into trying the accubonds a few years ago. I have loved them!!! I shoot them in almost every rifle I own. Killed more then a few critters with both. He also got me talked into the etip in a few magnums and I have had great luck with them as well.
The only thing I won't buy from them are the sporting handgun. They preformed like crap in both guns I shot them threw.
I think I might work some loads up this summer in a few rifles and give the E-Tips a try in the fall.
Post by: mountainman on December 04, 2012, 08:22:16 PM
Post by: littlemac on December 04, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
I threw In my 378 Wthrby mag round nose 300 gr I took my moose with. Two elk and a bear.
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 04, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
Post by: littlemac on December 04, 2012, 09:28:09 PM
30 years of Partition use, I have zero reason to consider a change. And if I did, the first place I would look would be to the Accubond.:yeah:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 04, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
:yeah:
I have always been a die hard partition guy. My buddy that works there talked to me into trying the accubonds a few years ago. I have loved them!!! I shoot them in almost every rifle I own. Killed more then a few critters with both. He also got me talked into the etip in a few magnums and I have had great luck with them as well.
The only thing I won't buy from them are the sporting handgun. They preformed like crap in both guns I shot them threw.
You should be happy with them. I have loaded them in 3 magnums and all have really shot them well. Better then I thought they would. I have 3 kills with them. All animals have been dead in impact. 2 bears 1 boar.
I think I might work some loads up this summer in a few rifles and give the E-Tips a try in the fall.
Post by: WildlifeAssassin on December 06, 2012, 12:54:03 PM
From my understanding the lead cow is the most experienced cow who is in charge of herd safety and leading the herd to traditional feeding, calving and security areas. Yet I constantly hear hunters commenting on shooting the "lead cow". It seems to me shooting the lead cow provides the oldest, toughest meat and is the worst cow to take in regards to herd stability and safety. Is there something I am missing?
Please don't take this as an attack, congrats on filling your tag, I am truly just curious if there is something about herd dynamics I don't understand. If you are bothered by this let me know and I'll delete it and start a new thread.
Post by: duckmen1 on December 06, 2012, 02:29:37 PM
Post by: Gutpile on December 06, 2012, 03:55:46 PM
I have a question for you, what is the logic behind shooting the lead cow?
From my understanding the lead cow is the most experienced cow who is in charge of herd safety and leading the herd to traditional feeding, calving and security areas. Yet I constantly hear hunters commenting on shooting the "lead cow". It seems to me shooting the lead cow provides the oldest, toughest meat and is the worst cow to take in regards to herd stability and safety. Is there something I am missing?
Please don't take this as an attack, congrats on filling your tag, I am truly just curious if there is something about herd dynamics I don't understand. If you are bothered by this let me know and I'll delete it and start a new thread.
Well if thats not a threadjack I dont know what is. :chuckle: :chuckle:
He probably shot the lead cow to test the partition. :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: hoyt2002 on December 06, 2012, 04:18:24 PM
Post by: WildlifeAssassin on December 06, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
i agree but in my sercumstance the lead cow was much further uphill making a much shorter hall out and the other cows had younger ones with them and didnt want to shoot a cow and take it away from the yearling even though they were getting pretty big. in this case was a better decision to me. plus i know the meat may not be as tender the way some cook it but my steak meat gets sliced lunch meat thin and put on an open fire for a few seconds per side and just pulls apart when finished. roasts are slow cooked resulting to tender know matter how old the animal is and stew meat is the same way. and rest is burger so it all works out. also more meat is better for spreading around to family and close friends. good point though. i would love to hear others opinion on the subject.
Thanks for the explanation and sorry for the thread jack. I have just heard "I shot the lead cow" like 5 times in the past 2 months and this question has been bothering me. On a thread related note I shoot 7mm mag partitions for bear and accubonds for ungulates. I am very satisfied with both rounds, all animals have died within 25 yards.
Post by: duckmen1 on December 06, 2012, 06:49:30 PM
accubond are a good choice also and we have had good luck hunting with them i just havent developed an accurate load out of the 300wsm yet
as far as factory loads go back when i didnt reload i always liked fusions. had good accuracy and did awsome on big game. never had an animal go pass 30 yards with couple dropping in there track out of 6 animals we have taken with them.they had great penetration as well as expansion causing lots of damage. loved the price to.
Post by: sirmissalot on December 07, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
I have a question for you, what is the logic behind shooting the lead cow?
From my understanding the lead cow is the most experienced cow who is in charge of herd safety and leading the herd to traditional feeding, calving and security areas. Yet I constantly hear hunters commenting on shooting the "lead cow". It seems to me shooting the lead cow provides the oldest, toughest meat and is the worst cow to take in regards to herd stability and safety. Is there something I am missing?
Please don't take this as an attack, congrats on filling your tag, I am truly just curious if there is something about herd dynamics I don't understand. If you are bothered by this let me know and I'll delete it and start a new thread.
Most people who claim they shot a big lead cow are probably just BSing. I hear it all the time, but how do you know you killed the lead cow? Is it just the biggest cow, or the one in the lead? What if the one in the lead isn't the biggest? Did you watch the herd and notice the same cow appears to be taking the lead? Not calling BS on duckmen, or anyone else in particular I've just noticed many people shoot a big cow and call it the lead cow... because thats what they have heard said before.
Anyways, partitions are a sweet bullet and an obvious proven killer, but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead. Other than I usually shoot barnes.
Post by: kentrek on December 07, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead.
a bent lead tip will have deduct from the BC and accuracy performance of the bullet..but this wont be noticed until shooting at further ranges
shouldnt be a problem for 95 % of hunters shooting 500 an under
Post by: bobcat on December 07, 2012, 01:06:59 PM
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Anyways, partitions are a sweet bullet and an obvious proven killer, but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead. Other than I usually shoot barns.
Same reason I don't use Partitions anymore.
Post by: duckmen1 on December 07, 2012, 02:19:30 PM
but how about we just call her a big girl. :)
Post by: huntnphool on December 07, 2012, 03:58:18 PM
LOL :chuckle:QuoteAnyways, partitions are a sweet bullet and an obvious proven killer, but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead. Other than I usually shoot barns.
Same reason I don't use Partitions anymore.
Post by: Blacklab on December 09, 2012, 07:26:12 AM
but I can't get past the fact that often times the lead tip gets bent or smashed. Not sure if it affects the flight or not but bugs me enough to pick the accubond instead.
a bent lead tip will have deduct from the BC and accuracy performance of the bullet..but this wont be noticed until shooting at further ranges
shouldnt be a problem for 95 % of hunters shooting 500 an under
Measure from the ogive :twocents: :)
Post by: duckmen1 on December 10, 2012, 08:52:18 PM
that seems like better speed for the size of the bullet compared to 165gr. for this gun.