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Title: Spur roads
Post by: fly-by on December 04, 2012, 12:02:10 PM
I was grouse hunting in 460 Saturday, walking gated logging roads and turning down overgrown spurs.  No grouse, but I noticed a very high percentage of these spurs had Coyote scat right in the middle of the road.  Is it a decent strategy to set up a caller at the end of  these little dead end spurs? Are they generally willing to come out of the thick stuff? 
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: grundy53 on December 04, 2012, 12:05:13 PM
It has worked for me.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: fly-by on December 04, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
Thanks Grundy53.  I assume shotgun works well for tight sets like this.  With the range of most e-caller remotes around 100 yards, and the thick brush, is there much need for a rifle on the west side? 
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: MountainWalk on December 04, 2012, 12:29:42 PM
Hell yes.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: Special T on December 04, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
I think it depends on the location. I personally think that a shotgun with buckshot can dn will reach aout an kill them at 70-90 yards with 0 Buck shot. At least it has for me... May be much harder to recover tho... I personally feel the ULTIMATE predator gun on this side of the Mts is the Save Modle 24 or 42 in a .223 over 12ga with buck shot.  :twocents:  I think an open sited rifle may have the advantage over a shotgun.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: grundy53 on December 04, 2012, 12:34:18 PM
If Im only taking one gun, I  prefer a rifle.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bobcat on December 04, 2012, 12:59:21 PM
It works good to have two people- one with a shotgun, and one with a rifle.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: rynokron on December 04, 2012, 01:04:39 PM
I'd like to see some 70-90 yard patterns with buckshot. You must have one good shotgun. Mine is only good out to 50. If I only bring one gun it's usually the AR. If someone else has a rifle I pack my 12 guage in the thick stuff.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bobcat on December 04, 2012, 01:08:57 PM
I would limit myself to 40 yards with a shotgun.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: fly-by on December 04, 2012, 01:18:15 PM
Thanks for the responses.  Sounds like the shotgun will work for this type of set. 

As far as more open areas, do any of the callers have a time delay so you can put it in a clearcut or more open area, giving you time to go get set up 100-200 yards out?  I would really like to camp out at the top of a clearcut that borders thick stuff and use the 25-06.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bearmanric on December 04, 2012, 01:44:59 PM
Bobcats  how I hunt the coast . Watch good I have gotten up a few times and there's a bobcat. Will use a shotgun more this year. #4 buckshot and I have a bunch of dead coyote with my AR or 22-250
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: Special T on December 04, 2012, 01:50:05 PM
I have not patterned my shotgun with my home brew loads. I take my poured 0 buck and stack 9 pellets into a 2 3/4 trap load. Since i have killed more than one at the 70+ yards i don't think its a fluke... Most buck shot does not use a shot cup. The balls rub against the barrel as it traves and creates spin on the buckshot. That helps it disperse quicker. In my next bach i will make i will try and pattern it. I'm also goin got try and "Buffer" it by packing in some ground corn cob which is supposed to keep it tighter longer...
BTW i have killed a coyote with my 18 in HD barrel at about 40-50 yards with this load.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bearpaw on December 04, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
Try some of those "dead coyote" shotgun cartridges, they are supposed to be really good.  :tup:
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: Special T on December 04, 2012, 01:54:01 PM
I think its non toxic TTT shot about 17 cal i think. I wonder if it has a shot cup like bird shot... I have used #4 buckshot. It patterned well but didn't have much knock down at distance...
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bobcat on December 04, 2012, 02:13:49 PM
I use lead BB's, but only because that's what I have. If you want the best, you want the Dead Coyote loads.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: aer212 on December 04, 2012, 02:44:58 PM
Try some of those "dead coyote" shotgun cartridges, they are supposed to be really good.  :tup:

No thanks, not at $5 a shot.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: Special T on December 04, 2012, 03:44:46 PM
I know a guy that uses 3.5 in lead BBB for coyotes as well seems to work reasonably well...
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 04, 2012, 03:58:28 PM
I've killed yotes at 20yds with #7 in 2 3/4" 12ga before.  3 1/2" 12ga BB rocks their world at close range. Turkey chokes aren't just for Turkey's.  No need for the spendy yote killer shells.
 
-Steve
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bobcat on December 04, 2012, 04:03:10 PM
Try some of those "dead coyote" shotgun cartridges, they are supposed to be really good.  :tup:

No thanks, not at $5 a shot.

That's why I don't use them.
Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: grundy53 on December 04, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
If you are worried about close in shots but only want to pack 1 long gun my first choice would be a combo gun like said before (.223 over a 12 gauge) if that's not an option use an open sight rifle. Good for close work and you can still reach out and poke one. You won't have to worry about range as much as with a shot gun.


Title: Re: Spur roads
Post by: bearmanric on December 04, 2012, 05:24:08 PM
I got all the dead coyote free at coyote hunts. Predator masters and the Gem state hunt in Boise Idaho. Rick
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