Post by: littlemac on December 04, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
http://news.msn.com/us/grizzly-hunts-may-be-allowed-in-the-rockies (http://news.msn.com/us/grizzly-hunts-may-be-allowed-in-the-rockies)
December 4, 2012 (49 min ago) |By Matthew Brown
About 1,600 grizzly bears live around Yellowstone and Glacier national parks.
BILLINGS, Mont. — With bear-human conflicts on the rise, wildlife managers in the Northern Rockies are laying the groundwork for trophy hunts for the animals in anticipation of the government lifting their threatened species status.
It's expected to be another two years before about 600 bears around Yellowstone National Park lose their federal protections, and possibly longer for about 1,000 bears in the region centered on Glacier National Park.
Yet already government officials say those populations have recovered to the point that limited hunting for small numbers of bears could occur after protections are lifted — and without harm to the species' decades-long recovery. That could include hunts in areas of Wyoming, Montana and Idaho where bear-human conflicts and livestock attacks are on the rise.
A federal-state committee that oversees grizzly bears will consider adopting a pro-hunting policy next week during a meeting in Missoula. Precise details on bear hunts have not been crafted.
It's taken decades for grizzlies to rebound from widespread extermination, and some wildlife advocates say it's too soon to talk about a hunt.
But state wildlife officials said hunting is a proven approach of wildlife management that could work for grizzlies just as it does for species such as elk, mountain lions and black bears.
"We have bears that are in conflict (with people), and certainly one of the ways that we could deal with that would be to reduce populations through hunting," said Jim Unsworth, deputy director for the Idaho Department of Fish and Game.
"There's the additional benefit of providing probably one of the most sought-after opportunities in North America — the opportunity to hunt a grizzly bear," he added.
Hunting is not being considered for smaller populations of the bears in the Cabinet-Yaak, North Cascades and Selkirk areas of Idaho, Montana and Washington.
Hunting for grizzlies currently is allowed in Canada and Alaska, where hundreds are taken annually.
Grizzlies lost their threatened species status in 2007 in the Yellowstone region, but protections were restored two years later by a federal judge.
Based on that court ruling, the government is now conducting additional studies on a decline in an important food source for some bears — the cones of white bark pine trees. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is expected to again seek to lift the animal's threatened status after the work is completed late next year.
Meanwhile, grizzlies already are dying regularly in the Northern Rockies as the slowly expanding population pushes out of wilderness strongholds and into areas with more people, ranches and croplands.
At least 51 bears have died so far this year in the Yellowstone area, according to the U.S. Geologic Survey. Most have died during run-ins with hunters, who sometimes shoot the animals in self-defense, and at the hands of wildlife agents who kill bears that cause repeated problems.
The bear population is closely tracked, and the government sets limits on the percentage of bears that can die in any given year for the population to remain healthy.
With such detailed accounting, grizzly managers could set hunting limits that the species could safely tolerate without risk to the overall population, said U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service grizzly coordinator Chris Servheen.
Dave Smith, a conservationist and author of a book on backcountry bear encounters, said there would be nothing to stop government officials from raising those overall mortality limits so more hunting could be accommodated.
"I think the plan is to delist grizzlies based on what we have now and then say, 'Whoa, we're changing everything,'" Smith said. "They can manipulate the numbers any way they want."
Wildlife officials said any hunts would be tightly controlled and highly conservative.
Servheen said they would differ significantly from wolf hunts now taking place in the Northern Rockies. For wolves, states have lifted quotas on the predators with the explicit aim of driving down their pack numbers through aggressive hunting and trapping.
By contrast, said Servheen, "you could probably count on one hand" the number of bears that could be legally killed in any given year if hunting is allowed, he said.
"Hunting is a tool, particularly to reduce populations in some areas on the periphery (of their range) where we may not want a lot of bears. We're trying to get it on the radar screen as we approach the management of healthy, recovered populations," he said.
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Post by: sirmissalot on December 05, 2012, 11:02:57 AM
The impact grizzlies have on elk calves is huge, they don't all need shot but there does need to be some management. This area I am talking aboutalmost all the sows had 3 cubs. That tells you how good they are eating.
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Post by: link on December 05, 2012, 06:47:27 PM
Might save some lives if we put fear back into them.This is the point I was going to try to make. The area I've been hunting in Wyoming is absolutely lousy with grizzly bears. Every year we see bears. More and more every year it seems. This year I personally had two run ins with bears. First one, we walked up on a bear on a deer carcass. Absolutely no fear of us. We backed out and crossed a couple hundred yards back above it. The second one tried to take a deer from us. Came right in, completely fearless. There were four of us too, standing there, it did not care. We emptied three cans of bear spray as it circled us getting closer and closer as we gathered our gear and loaded up and got the hell out of there. All it wanted was the carcass, but it showed no fear. Maybe if they were actually hunted ( on a limited basis) they may start to show some fear, and wait for us to leave the carcass before they move in on it. I actually enjoy seeing them, but I would prefer they stay a few hundred yards away and move in the opposite direction!
Post by: Labs07 on December 17, 2012, 02:47:28 PM
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Post by: Bshiftbc on December 17, 2012, 07:13:41 PM
Bears are becoming a huge problem in parts of WY and MT. We had one client that couldn't wait to get back to Texas after seeing his first Griz....
Post by: steeleywhopper on December 17, 2012, 07:21:37 PM
Post by: JLS on December 17, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
They are an amazing creature.