Post by: USAFpj on December 06, 2012, 07:51:12 PM
Post by: Selkirk on December 06, 2012, 08:34:11 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 06, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
And yes you can use plastic wrap around your entire gun if you like. I've never done it, but it's legal.
I'm thinking about hunting with my bow this weekend if it's raining hard, just so I don't have to worry about it.
Post by: USAFpj on December 06, 2012, 09:54:52 PM
Post by: washelkhunter on December 06, 2012, 10:00:59 PM
Post by: USAFpj on December 06, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
Post by: Smokepole54 on December 07, 2012, 12:21:07 AM
Post by: dawhunt on December 07, 2012, 04:37:56 AM
Bob
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 07, 2012, 09:12:11 AM
After I shot it successfully the previous night, I didn't use any lube :chuckle:. I was thinking that the ignition had dried all the lube I had used previously. The only thing I used on the patch was saliva, and only on the edges that would meet the barrel.Instead of a spit patch use a lubed patch (bore butter). And at night put a lubed patch over the nipple and rest the hammer on the nipple.This is how the mountain men did it. Also when you put your cap on the nipple, rest the hammer on the cap and seat the cap on the nipple by pushing the hammer on the cap.If you do this correctly, you shouldnt be able to take the cap off by hand, so be sure to carry a pocket knife. This has worked for me in the wettest conditions. Another question is: After you fired off your first round and before you loaded your second round did you fired just a cap to make sure that the nipple was clear? This is always a good idea and I always fire 3 caps, pointing the muzzle at a blade of grass or something that will move to confirm that the nipple is clear before loading up. Dont take your gun in at night, leave it in your rig and lock it up.
Post by: USAFpj on December 07, 2012, 10:16:22 AM
Post by: lokidog on December 07, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
Be sure to put electrical tape or something over your muzzle so water does not soak down in. Using prelubed patches should help prevent this as the grease should be somewhat water repellant and keep the moisture in front of the ball.
Good luck.
Post by: finfeatherfur on December 07, 2012, 11:59:38 AM
One thing I do prior to loading is run the ramrod and cleaning jag down the barrel with a clean dry patch. Then cap the nipple, point the gun in a safe direction and fire the cap. Pull out the ramrod and inspect the patch. If there is a definitive circular burn pattern you have a clear path to the powder. I have always believed that this also dries out the nipple and base of the bore. Oh, and make sure the gun is not loaded when doing this - shouldn't have to say that but probably need to.
good luck.
Post by: Machias on December 07, 2012, 01:08:41 PM
Post by: USAFpj on December 07, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Post by: Machias on December 07, 2012, 03:07:55 PM
Post by: USAFpj on December 07, 2012, 03:23:29 PM
Post by: grundy53 on December 07, 2012, 03:33:33 PM
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 07, 2012, 03:53:59 PM
Got me some bore butter now and I have learned about the condensation issue; didn't know that the pyrodex is hygroscopic, so you live and you learn :tup:. Just to clarify the hammer resting against the cap- you hunt this way as well? I thought it made the best sense for weather, but didn't know if it passed the 'is that safe' test? I have not been shooting the caps, I've been using a pipe cleaner to grab any moisture that may be in that channel. Between this board and the rifle, it'll teach me what works. If you're going to be stupid, you better be hard...No I dont hunt this way. I bring the hammer to half cock and set my set trigger, one less click when the time comes. If your rifle has a set trigger this is a good habit to get into. If you continue to use Pyrodex (pellets I assume) pour about 5 grains of loose powder (FFF) before the pellets. This will help ignition of the pellets.
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 07, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
Anyone use a condom instead of electrical tape for the muzzle?Condoms, no but the finger condoms Yes. You can buy a pack of 50 or so for about $3 at Rite-Aid if you dont mind white or you can spend about $10 for 5 in black at Cabelas.
Post by: USAFpj on December 07, 2012, 04:10:27 PM
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 07, 2012, 04:26:45 PM
Tinner, I'm using loose pyrodex powder.Try using real black powder like Goex, you may have better luck. Are you using FF or FFF. Synthetic powder were designed for a 209 primer which burns hotter then 11s or musket caps.
Post by: USAFpj on December 07, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 07, 2012, 04:45:24 PM
RS- FFG equivalantLook in your owners manual and see if you can use FFF, usually its about 10 grains less then FF and youll have a faster ignition.
Post by: lokidog on December 07, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Got me some bore butter now and I have learned about the condensation issue; didn't know that the pyrodex is hygroscopic, so you live and you learn :tup:. Just to clarify the hammer resting against the cap- you hunt this way as well? I thought it made the best sense for weather, but didn't know if it passed the 'is that safe' test? I have not been shooting the caps, I've been using a pipe cleaner to grab any moisture that may be in that channel. Between this board and the rifle, it'll teach me what works. If you're going to be stupid, you better be hard...No I dont hunt this way. I bring the hammer to half cock and set my set trigger, one less click when the time comes. If your rifle has a set trigger this is a good habit to get into. If you continue to use Pyrodex (pellets I assume) pour about 5 grains of loose powder (FFF) before the pellets. This will help ignition of the pellets.
I, personally, would not set my set trigger as it makes the trigger on my Hawken go off at something like a pound of pressure or so (never measured it, but it is really light). I would be very worried about a twig or a fall setting it off. If you are close enough for them to hear the click of the set trigger, you are probably close enough not to need it. This is just my opinion and I am not flaming you for what you do. ;)
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 07, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Loki, how dare you criticize me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just joking. The half cock is the safety as you know. My trigger is very light also when the set trigger is set. whats the difference with a 30-30 lever gun? Some people on other threads get pretty butt hurt on criticisum. Sorry for the spelling.Got me some bore butter now and I have learned about the condensation issue; didn't know that the pyrodex is hygroscopic, so you live and you learn :tup:. Just to clarify the hammer resting against the cap- you hunt this way as well? I thought it made the best sense for weather, but didn't know if it passed the 'is that safe' test? I have not been shooting the caps, I've been using a pipe cleaner to grab any moisture that may be in that channel. Between this board and the rifle, it'll teach me what works. If you're going to be stupid, you better be hard...No I dont hunt this way. I bring the hammer to half cock and set my set trigger, one less click when the time comes. If your rifle has a set trigger this is a good habit to get into. If you continue to use Pyrodex (pellets I assume) pour about 5 grains of loose powder (FFF) before the pellets. This will help ignition of the pellets.
I, personally, would not set my set trigger as it makes the trigger on my Hawken go off at something like a pound of pressure or so (never measured it, but it is really light). I would be very worried about a twig or a fall setting it off. If you are close enough for them to hear the click of the set trigger, you are probably close enough not to need it. This is just my opinion and I am not flaming you for what you do. ;)
Post by: robescc on December 07, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
Post by: lonedave on December 07, 2012, 09:08:14 PM
Post by: lokidog on December 07, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
Loki, how dare you criticize me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just joking. The half cock is the safety as you know. My trigger is very light also when the set trigger is set. whats the difference with a 30-30 lever gun? Some people on other threads get pretty butt hurt on criticisum. Sorry for the spelling.Got me some bore butter now and I have learned about the condensation issue; didn't know that the pyrodex is hygroscopic, so you live and you learn :tup:. Just to clarify the hammer resting against the cap- you hunt this way as well? I thought it made the best sense for weather, but didn't know if it passed the 'is that safe' test? I have not been shooting the caps, I've been using a pipe cleaner to grab any moisture that may be in that channel. Between this board and the rifle, it'll teach me what works. If you're going to be stupid, you better be hard...No I dont hunt this way. I bring the hammer to half cock and set my set trigger, one less click when the time comes. If your rifle has a set trigger this is a good habit to get into. If you continue to use Pyrodex (pellets I assume) pour about 5 grains of loose powder (FFF) before the pellets. This will help ignition of the pellets.
I, personally, would not set my set trigger as it makes the trigger on my Hawken go off at something like a pound of pressure or so (never measured it, but it is really light). I would be very worried about a twig or a fall setting it off. If you are close enough for them to hear the click of the set trigger, you are probably close enough not to need it. This is just my opinion and I am not flaming you for what you do. ;)
Oops! I wasn't thinking about the half-cocked part as I didn't even know the set trigger would set in that position. :rolleyes:
Post by: Leanne on December 18, 2012, 08:59:22 PM
keep the lock up under my armpit with the muzzle down. Stays dry in a pouring rain.
Bingo! I have three blacktails on the wall that I have shot with a load that had been in the gun for days while hunting in western washington conditions and I have 4 other bucks as well, in 10 years of muzzleloading I have never once had a misfire ever while out hunting, only when shooting at the range after putting a lot of slugs through the gun and it was just letting me know time to clean her out!
No need too wrap the ignition or tape the barrel, just pay attention.
Post by: MountainWalk on December 18, 2012, 09:23:25 PM
Post by: BallardBound on December 19, 2012, 12:07:50 AM