Post by: Critter Ritter on December 10, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
Blue Mountains? OR Colockum?
Heard a lot about the Blue Mountains. And not much about Colockum.
Any pics of Bulls been shot? Which would you prefer?
Post by: time2hunt on December 10, 2012, 08:22:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 10, 2012, 08:25:47 PM
Post by: Critter Ritter on December 10, 2012, 08:26:23 PM
I have 5 points.
Post by: time2hunt on December 10, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
Post by: predatorpro on December 10, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 10, 2012, 08:35:37 PM
Post by: buglebuster on December 10, 2012, 08:47:22 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 10, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Post by: Bob33 on December 10, 2012, 09:20:30 PM
Come on now. We know that Pomeroy locals draw every year with 1 point because they drew the previous year.I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Post by: Todd_ID on December 10, 2012, 09:27:11 PM
In 15 years the points creep will require 40 points to draw the best tag in the state: Colockum! :tup:I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Post by: Dan-o on December 10, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
2.
3. Skip season
4. Colockum.... just to take a walk. No bulls there.
Post by: Bob33 on December 10, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
Doesn't the world end in 11 days anyway?In 15 years the points creep will require 40 points to draw the best tag in the state: Colockum! :tup:I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Post by: Critter Ritter on December 10, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
I've been pretty lucky so far. i got drawn 3 yrs in a row. with 3 points and under. one was for the Alklai Bull elk.I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Post by: Kola16 on December 10, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 10, 2012, 10:17:32 PM
I've been pretty lucky so far. i got drawn 3 yrs in a row. with 3 points and under. one was for the Alklai Bull elk.I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Must be an archery hunter then?
If so, then you actually do have a chance.
Either place has good bulls. The Blues are probably a tougher hunt due to the steep terrain, if that matters.
You could go on a road trip and check out both areas to see which you prefer. But I think you'll be happy with the size of the bulls in either one.
Post by: MuleySniper on December 10, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: NWWA Hunter on December 10, 2012, 11:20:26 PM
Post by: deerslyr on December 10, 2012, 11:54:49 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 11, 2012, 09:41:19 PM
I have 5 points.
Only 5 points? OK, well ask this question again in 15 years. :chuckle:
Funniest post of the year thus far. LMFAO
Good one Bobcat
Post by: skywalker253 on December 11, 2012, 09:53:22 PM
What is the terrain like in the Clockum? I have not made it in there yet.
Is the Clockum multiple GMUs? That is what I read in the regulations, so I am assuiming it is GMUs 328, 329, 335. Which is the most productive GMU of the 3?
Which is the best hunt to put in for? I hunt modern firearm. I see there is a late "any bull" hunt open in Dec through the end of the month. Must be a snow hunt.
Lastly...
Every year I look at the elk on the Handford property. Are there any GMUs, which those elk travel back and fourth into? Are they worth applying for?
If the Blues and the Clockum are top 2, which is number 3, 4, and 5 in your opinions.
Post by: splitshot on December 11, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
Post by: 400out on December 12, 2012, 05:42:07 AM
Post by: KNOPHISH on December 12, 2012, 06:18:44 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2012, 06:52:09 AM
Post by: C-Money on December 12, 2012, 07:04:16 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on December 12, 2012, 07:08:07 AM
Post by: Maverick on December 12, 2012, 09:58:03 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on December 12, 2012, 10:23:43 AM
Post by: deerslyr on December 12, 2012, 10:45:40 AM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 10:53:41 AM
I have 17 points and have been out scouting around to try and prepare for next year.
What is the terrain like in the Clockum? I have not made it in there yet.
Is the Clockum multiple GMUs? That is what I read in the regulations, so I am assuiming it is GMUs 328, 329, 335. Which is the most productive GMU of the 3?
Which is the best hunt to put in for? I hunt modern firearm. I see there is a late "any bull" hunt open in Dec through the end of the month. Must be a snow hunt.
Lastly...
Every year I look at the elk on the Handford property. Are there any GMUs, which those elk travel back and fourth into? Are they worth applying for?
If the Blues and the Clockum are top 2, which is number 3, 4, and 5 in your opinions.
Ok...if nobody is going to answer my questions, then let me ask one question.
What GMU is the Clock in? What difference does it make if somebody gives up information on the GMU. It is a highly difficult permit to draw. Somebody like myself, who has a ton of points will find out one way or the other. I am just hoping someone call give me a little intelligence, so I can go scout the area. I may not even put in for it anyway, as I would rather hunt the Blues. But I would be stupid to not at least check out some other areas, which I DON'T know.
Post by: bobcat on December 12, 2012, 10:56:36 AM
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2012, 11:05:54 AM
The modern permit is hunt 2018. If you look that up in the regs it will tell you the GMUs.I have 17 points and have been out scouting around to try and prepare for next year.
What is the terrain like in the Clockum? I have not made it in there yet.
Is the Clockum multiple GMUs? That is what I read in the regulations, so I am assuiming it is GMUs 328, 329, 335. Which is the most productive GMU of the 3?
Which is the best hunt to put in for? I hunt modern firearm. I see there is a late "any bull" hunt open in Dec through the end of the month. Must be a snow hunt.
Lastly...
Every year I look at the elk on the Handford property. Are there any GMUs, which those elk travel back and fourth into? Are they worth applying for?
If the Blues and the Clockum are top 2, which is number 3, 4, and 5 in your opinions.
Ok...if nobody is going to answer my questions, then let me ask one question.
What GMU is the Clock in? What difference does it make if somebody gives up information on the GMU. It is a highly difficult permit to draw. Somebody like myself, who has a ton of points will find out one way or the other. I am just hoping someone call give me a little intelligence, so I can go scout the area. I may not even put in for it anyway, as I would rather hunt the Blues. But I would be stupid to not at least check out some other areas, which I DON'T know.
Post by: Bofire on December 12, 2012, 11:06:12 AM
Carl
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
I consider the Colockum to be the Naneum and Quilomene units.
Thanks Bobcat. Now take me there and show me where the elk are at. Kidding...
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
The modern permit is hunt 2018. If you look that up in the regs it will tell you the GMUs.I have 17 points and have been out scouting around to try and prepare for next year.
What is the terrain like in the Clockum? I have not made it in there yet.
Is the Clockum multiple GMUs? That is what I read in the regulations, so I am assuiming it is GMUs 328, 329, 335. Which is the most productive GMU of the 3?
Which is the best hunt to put in for? I hunt modern firearm. I see there is a late "any bull" hunt open in Dec through the end of the month. Must be a snow hunt.
Lastly...
Every year I look at the elk on the Handford property. Are there any GMUs, which those elk travel back and fourth into? Are they worth applying for?
If the Blues and the Clockum are top 2, which is number 3, 4, and 5 in your opinions.
Ok...if nobody is going to answer my questions, then let me ask one question.
What GMU is the Clock in? What difference does it make if somebody gives up information on the GMU. It is a highly difficult permit to draw. Somebody like myself, who has a ton of points will find out one way or the other. I am just hoping someone call give me a little intelligence, so I can go scout the area. I may not even put in for it anyway, as I would rather hunt the Blues. But I would be stupid to not at least check out some other areas, which I DON'T know.
Thank you
Post by: bobcat on December 12, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
The Colockum, in my mind, is east of hwy 97.
I might include the Mission unit as being a part of it, but not the Teanaway.
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 02:06:23 PM
The quality permit includes Teanaway, which to me is not the Colockum.
The Colockum, in my mind, is east of hwy 97.
I might include the Mission unit as being a part of it, but not the Teanaway.
would this also cover blewitt pass or am I to far north. I will go to the Sportmans Warehouse and pickup a couple of maps. I travel from the Tacoma area to Eastern WA every week. Last week I went thru there to go to Chelan to screw around the Entiat area looking at deer. I am really trying to hit it hard this year, so if I get drawn I will know right where to go. I have alot of points for deer and elk.
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 02:27:27 PM
17 points is alot of points to put towards only giving out 1 tag or 6 for that matter. I'd almost rather try for something else, which has good public access and gives out a fair amount of tags. I really want to get drawn this year. Any suggestions? I am willing to do my part scouting and not just show up the day of the hunt and hope for the best. I don't expect anyone to tell me where to go. I'm only looking for opinions and general areas.
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 12, 2012, 02:31:46 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 02:35:19 PM
Post by: bobcat on December 12, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 12, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
I would pick one of the near-impossible to draw permits as a first choice, then pick one of the 300 units with a high number of permits for your second choice.
:yeah: :tup:
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 02:40:12 PM
I'd say with your 17 points is probably about the average number of points by everybody that applies. The quality of bulls is there and due to low numbers is what makes that tag so hard to get. In my opinion any 300 gmu is good for elk and if you just want to get drawn during the rut then I'd suggest a different unit where you have a better chance at getting drawn next year.
Yes you are correct. The regs say 11 point avg for the Oct hunt. 13 for the 1 tag in Sept. If you count the 1 tag given for Teanaway; it took at avg 11 points to get drawn. So 17 should but me in the mix. Would I be wasting my time scouting now? The reason I ask; I am wondering if they live there throughout the year or migrate in.
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 02:41:34 PM
I would pick one of the near-impossible to draw permits as a first choice, then pick one of the 300 units with a high number of permits for your second choice.
Wenaha East
You only get 2 choices or is it 4?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 12, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
nooksack
I have been up there a few times on I5, but I have never ventured off deep in the GMU. Looked pretty steep from the main hwy. How open is it to the public? Any pics of some big bulls you can post? Get us excited!
Post by: 270Flat on December 12, 2012, 02:57:37 PM
Post by: skywalker253 on December 12, 2012, 03:16:55 PM
FYI Blues are STEEP too!! I saw a couple real bruisers this year with a spike tag in my pocket.
Yes...I have hunted deer there for over 25 years. It can be a real dangerous in there. I suggest hiring Dave at Western Outfitters for an trophy bull hunt. I won't hunt elk there to shoot a spike. I have always hunted the westside for elk, but considering the number of points I have.........I GOING EAST!!!
Post by: coachcw on December 13, 2012, 06:33:59 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 13, 2012, 08:13:11 AM
nooksack
I have been up there a few times on I5, but I have never ventured off deep in the GMU. Looked pretty steep from the main hwy. How open is it to the public? Any pics of some big bulls you can post? Get us excited!
The herd west of Birdsview had a monster bull in it this year, plus the one just east of Sedro Wolley had a nice one as well.
Post by: Woodchuck on December 13, 2012, 08:33:03 AM
The reallty is the blues have more big bulls , but the country is steep and deep . there's some good bulls in the cloc , teannaway and peaches , chuck bumping in for fun. the central units can produce bulls in the 370-380 range with some hard work and sure there's a couple that push 400 but i've yet to see them . So it really depends how far one wants to travell and how good of shape your in . I'm gonna play a ace this year and hope for a draw .Dude, what did I ever do to you? :bash: :chuckle:
Post by: Roperfive88 on December 13, 2012, 03:27:13 PM
Post by: coachcw on December 15, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 15, 2012, 08:20:41 PM
nooksack:nono: :nono: :nono: :violent1: :beatdeadhorse: :DOH: :tdown:
Post by: PolarBear on December 15, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
Here is one from the Clock that KNOPISH posted. 400+Those are reproduction antlers. I know the taxidermist in Shelton who made them and did the mount. He is a horrible taxidermist by the way.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 15, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 15, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
all the bulls in that unit are now spikes :yeah:nooksack
I have been up there a few times on I5, but I have never ventured off deep in the GMU. Looked pretty steep from the main hwy. How open is it to the public? Any pics of some big bulls you can post? Get us excited!
Post by: trophyhunt on December 15, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Post by: nwhunter on December 15, 2012, 08:53:58 PM
Post by: deerslyr on December 15, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
Or you could split your points with someone who has a history of being real lucky in the draws and go hunting! :chuckle: nwhunter
:chuckle:
Post by: colockumelk on December 16, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
I would pick one of the near-impossible to draw permits as a first choice, then pick one of the 300 units with a high number of permits for your second choice.
If you have 17 points don't waste it on a general season big bull permit. Because then its basically a crap shoot. Basically you hope a big one is pushed by you. The Little Nachese (GMU 346) Has a special season for the rifle that goes from Oct 1-10. There isnt a general season there and the bulls are still screaming their heads off. Plus they give out 10 tags. That is an awesome tag to draw. That unit also has ALOT of elk. If you put in the time to scout a large trophy bull is mote than doable. So put in for one of the rut tags (Colockum or Blues) as #1 and then the Little Naches tag #2.
Post by: 400out on December 16, 2012, 04:43:51 PM
wow that was honest! I take back what I say about you at the meetingsI would pick one of the near-impossible to draw permits as a first choice, then pick one of the 300 units with a high number of permits for your second choice.
If you have 17 points don't waste it on a general season big bull permit. Because then its basically a crap shoot. Basically you hope a big one is pushed by you. The Little Nachese (GMU 346) Has a special season for the rifle that goes from Oct 1-10. There isnt a general season there and the bulls are still screaming their heads off. Plus they give out 10 tags. That is an awesome tag to draw. That unit also has ALOT of elk. If you put in the time to scout a large trophy bull is mote than doable. So put in for one of the rut tags (Colockum or Blues) as #1 and then the Little Naches tag #2.
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: to you
Post by: bobcat on December 16, 2012, 05:16:36 PM
Which is why I would suggest applying for one of the hunts that falls after the rut.
Post by: Critter Ritter on December 16, 2012, 07:40:36 PM
Post by: effin-steve on December 17, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
Post by: pd on December 18, 2012, 08:38:35 PM
May I hijack this?? I would like to bribe one of the old salts on this forum with beer, and get a good lesson on the points and special hunts for elk. Do any of you live in Kitsap, or somewhere around here?
I have never bothered with the special hunts, and don't really have any knowledge of the ins & outs of the system. There is so much to learn. I could really use some advice (not on where to go, but how to apply). Does anybody ever run a lecture during the off season?
PD
Post by: Critter Ritter on December 19, 2012, 09:38:45 PM
I work for a big orange tree expert co. that sends me all over the state to work the high lines doing line clearence. Every summer we start in wenachee go up and over the colockum to cle elum to the top of stamped pass and through the green river water shed. I see big bulls in the colockum every year but if I had 17 points I would put in for unit 485. We see more big bulls and big bucks in the watershed then we see any where else the place is loaded.The 2 BIGGEST Bulls I ever saw were in the Unit 485 they were both dandy 6pts :drool:, Me and my dad were 200 yrds away and they stood there for like 5 minutes looking at us, And I had a Black-tail tag. Dang-it
Post by: paytonma on December 19, 2012, 09:44:25 PM
Post by: adamR on December 20, 2012, 06:33:39 AM
This is why I am one of the few that loves the new categories because you don't have to settle anymore just to get drawn faster.
Post by: splitshot on January 13, 2013, 10:18:28 PM
Post by: JamesK. on January 14, 2013, 09:17:45 AM