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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: Wahotaho on December 23, 2012, 05:33:56 PM

Title: Pro-fishing Petition to The Federal Government. Sign here!
Post by: Wahotaho on December 23, 2012, 05:33:56 PM: Asian carp can out-compete native, sport, and commercial fish; remove native vegetation; decrease dissolved oxygen levels; increase turbidity; disrupt food webs; and introduce parasites and disease. Certain species (silver carp) have been known to jump forcefully out of the water in response to noises or lights, injuring boaters and breaking boat windshields.

Without a doubt Asian carp are a big problem that could ruin our rivers. It's time that we do something about it. We must compel the Washington State Government to make it legal to humanly shoot these destructive fish with steel shot from a shot-gun before the completely take over our rivers.

This would really help control it's population because carp like to come up to the surface of the water in the early morning. This makes them very easy to shoot at.

Buck-shot also wont bounce or skip off the water unlike most guns.

So do you really think that we should just stand idly-by and let the carp ruin our rivers? I say "NO"! And you should too!

Go here to sign:change.org/petitions/don-t-let-asian-carp-ruin-our-rivers#intro
Go here to see my other petitions:trappershaverights.blogspot.com/

Sincerely,
William Aho
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: bigtex on December 23, 2012, 05:37:19 PM: If you want these things to go anywhere you may want the "letter" that gets passed on to the govt to be longer then one sentence.....
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 23, 2012, 11:30:40 PM: uh, we don't have any of those in washington.
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Wahotaho on December 24, 2012, 08:46:23 AM: Yes we do I see them almost everyday.
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 24, 2012, 09:55:14 AM: what you're seeing could be common carp, or grass carp, both of which have been here forever...no asian carp in this state, though.
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Jburke on December 26, 2012, 12:05:48 AM: What did you intend to shoot them with? Bow, or rifle? Short of shooting them with a bow there isn't really a safe and effective way to shoot a carp in the water I wouldn't think. :twocents:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 27, 2012, 03:35:03 PM: actually, grass carp have not been here forever, and can only be brought to the state by permit and must be penned, and can only be brought to the state if sterilized.
Common carp are everywhere.
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Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 27, 2012, 04:02:16 PM: There are no carp native to Washington state. All carp here are introduced.

The Columbia River has a sizable population. I used to catch them under the Thunderbird Motel in Astoria when I was a kid. The only thing we could get them to bite on was doughballs we'd make from slices of bread.
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Post by: 6x6in6 on December 27, 2012, 04:30:24 PM: Quote from: Wahotaho on December 24, 2012, 08:46:23 AM
Yes we do I see them almost everyday.
Where?
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Post by: Jack Diamond on December 27, 2012, 07:58:17 PM: I would guess Ferndale ? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 27, 2012, 08:37:31 PM: The man who said it has Ferndale under his user name , what would you figure Bellingham??
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 27, 2012, 08:51:24 PM: Maybe Whatcom County?
Maybe Skagit County?
Maybe Snohomish County?
Maybe he sees them everyday because commutes to Grant County on a daily basis?
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Post by: Jack Diamond on December 27, 2012, 08:55:57 PM: Then he drives for Bogard or Milky Way and can't be trusted. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 27, 2012, 09:00:56 PM: :chuckle: I am watching a show right now ...EATING THE ENEMY ..and Asian carp are what is for Dinner :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 27, 2012, 09:03:19 PM: Quote from: Jack Diamond on December 27, 2012, 08:55:57 PM
Then he drives for Bogard or Milky Way and can't be trusted. :chuckle:
:chuckle:

Hay makes milk. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 27, 2012, 09:05:30 PM: :brew:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Fishaholic on December 28, 2012, 07:08:36 PM: I'll shoot them lol Federal steel 1 oz #6 works great for lots of stuff hahaha
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The State Government. Sign here!
Post by: Wahotaho on December 31, 2012, 01:59:52 PM: Quote from: BigGoonTuna on December 24, 2012, 09:55:14 AM
what you're seeing could be common carp, or grass carp, both of which have been here forever...no asian carp in this state, though.

Thankyou for that information. I'll change it :sry:
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The Federal Government. Sign here!
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 31, 2012, 03:35:02 PM: once again - Grass carp can only be introduced into the state by permit, most are imported from Arkansas at a cost of about $9.oo each and must be sterile. You are not seeing grass carp, unless you are in an area where they have been introduced by "permit" to take care of Aquatic plant growth.
Grass carp are known as white Amur, from the Amur river system in Asia, they are vegetarian and can be used by "permit" to control invasive aquatic species of plants. WDFW will determine the stocking rates per lake or pond.

What you are seeing are the Common Carp, in the state of Washington
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The Federal Government. Sign here!
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 31, 2012, 07:33:13 PM: Jack, if you think all introductions are done legally, you are sadly mistaken. Cases in point, walleye in the Columbia and catfish all over the state. And don't get me started on possums.
Title: Re: Pro-fishing Petition to The Federal Government. Sign here!
Post by: Jack Diamond on December 31, 2012, 11:22:27 PM: I did not say a thing about other species,however some grass carp will escape, they are sterile if legally introduced into the state, I really do not know how many white Amur have been illegally introduced, but the market price for these fish ,would indicate that it is unreasonable to assume that someone would be a bucket biologist with the White Amur. I am sure you know about carp, and have a history with them, however I doubt you have seen "grass carp" in a natural reproductive situation in the state of Washington.
They are very effective for invasive aquatic plantlife control.
Completely different fish than the "common carp" that most people encounter.

And I know nothing about "grinners" :)
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Post by: plugger on January 01, 2013, 04:53:50 PM: There is such a simple sollution to this problem. Just tell the tribes they cant have any :tup: :tup:
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Post by: Fishaholic on January 01, 2013, 05:55:20 PM: why is there grass carp in duck lake i use to catch them with corn.