Hunting Washington Forum
Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: bearpaw on December 24, 2012, 04:17:17 AM
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What if you lived in these counties? Any thoughts?
http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1 (http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1)
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BP: I am having trouble reading the article. Can you please paste the text? Thanks.
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I suppose the next thing will be that we will have to keep an inventory on all ammo and have to account for any change to that too. I don't believe that is my neighbors business. I just assume that all of my neighbors have guns of there own.
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Map: Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?
4:51 PM, Dec. 22, 2012
The map indicates the addresses of all pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties. Each dot represents an individual permit holder licensed to own a handgun — a pistol or revolver. The data does not include owners of long guns — rifles or shotguns — which can be purchased without a permit. Being included in this map does not mean the individual at a specific location owns a weapon, just that they are licensed to do so.
Data for all permit categories, unrestricted carry, premises, business, employment, target and hunting, is included, but permit information is not available on an individual basis.
To create the map, The Journal News submitted Freedom of Information requests for the names and addresses of all pistol permit holders in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam. By state law, the information is public record.
Putnam is still putting together its records and could not immediately provide any data. The map will be updated when that data is released.
WESTCHESTER COUNTY
This map shows pistol permits registered with the Westchester County Clerk's Office. Residents are required to renew the permit every five years. Zoom in and out for more information and click on a dot to see details of a permit.
ROCKLAND COUNTY
This map shows pistol permits registered in Rockland County, which are issued for life and do not need to be renewed. Zoom in and out for more information and click on a dot to see details of a permit. Rockland County splits permit holders into two categories:
(maps are shown on the web page)
Active (blue): Permit holders that have purchased a firearm or updated the information on a permit in the past five years.
Historic (purple): Permit holders with no activity in the past five years. Permit holders who have died or moved out of the area may not have updated their permit records, so some locations marked with a purple dot may not represent a current permit holder.
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Egad, posted just like sex offenders.
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Egad, posted just like sex offenders.
Map of how to disarm the public. I have always felt this data should not be retained by officials.
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I had a guy at the gun counter at Wholesale Sports tell me once that once your approved for purchase the government destroys the paperwork and doesn't keep it. I looked at him and laughed and asked him if he really believed that. :DOH:
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One of the reasons I will never get a CPL.
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Well that is BS if you ask me.
This would be an invasion of privacy. What's next, me getting harrassed by all the anti-gun people, knowing exactly where I live? WTF!
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The left is inch by inch creeping like a sniper on its target. I am not surprised at this at all. I have no words to express just how I hate the left thinking folks and their arrogance and methods they employ to get their agenda. Some not all, sorry. Some just follow like sheep and don't know why. I'm pretty good at one on one debate and discussions about some conservative vs liberal thoughts and beliefs verbally. I'm an idiot when writing though. Wish I could articulate better in text. What I am really trying to say is I get this deer in the head lights look, or a vacant stare of emptiness, or a flat out denial and look of confusion when engaged in discussion. A big FAT LIBERAL LIE.
This seems to be another tool, another chink in the armor and strength of the constitution of America and our FREEDOM.
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This is New York State. You can not own/purchase/keep a handgun there without a permit. It has been this way for at least as long as I've been alive...40 years. This map is also created through public information. Any Joe Schmo can create a map of anything that out of public info assuming they have the time to do so.
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I will take a shot at calling this BS. I grew up on the north end of the map just outside Kingston. 1st Kingston is in ulster county. 2nd there's like 1 dot in Kingston. I can tell you at a minimum 10 people I know who have permits in Kingston. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Don't shoot me I am only delivering the story that I recieved. No way to verify this, but I have no reason to assume it's untrue. :chuckle:
According to the website, the dots show guns registered in those two counties. If you back the map out, you will see there are a few dots even out west. Apparently they are saying those people are registered in the two counties mentioned but they know they live somewhere else.
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One of the reasons I will never get a CPL.
I am seriously leaning toward this view.
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Don't shoot me I am only delivering the story that I recieved. No way to verify this, but I have no reason to assume it's untrue. :chuckle:
According to the website, the dots show guns registered in those two counties. If you back the map out, you will see there are a few dots even out west. Apparently they are saying those people are registered in the two counties mentioned but they know they live somewhere else.
When Ohio became Right to Carry, newspapers were printing people's names and addresses in the newspaper.
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One more reason to be against mandatory gun registration.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/newspaper-publishes-gun-owners-names-addresses-215214269--abc-news-topstories.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/newspaper-publishes-gun-owners-names-addresses-215214269--abc-news-topstories.html)
Personally, I believe this paper was totally irresponsible and this is an infringement of law abiding gun owners' right. And if someone broke into my house to steal guns after this info was given out, I'd be filing a lawsuit.
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One more reason to be against mandatory gun registration.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/newspaper-publishes-gun-owners-names-addresses-215214269--abc-news-topstories.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/newspaper-publishes-gun-owners-names-addresses-215214269--abc-news-topstories.html)
Personally, I believe this paper was totally irresponsible and this is an infringement of law abiding gun owners' right. And if someone broke into my house to steal guns after this info was given out, I'd be filing a lawsuit.
:yeah: and the paper should be held negligent for anything that occurs.....including burglars/invaders that get killed.
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another story on this:
Legal Gun Owners in New York Outed Like Sex Offenders
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com http://www.infowars.com/legal-gun-owners-in-new-york-outed-like-sex-offenders/ (http://www.infowars.com/legal-gun-owners-in-new-york-outed-like-sex-offenders/)
December 24, 2012
A corporate media owned website in New York has posted the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in three counties in the state.
“Data for all permit categories, unrestricted carry, premises, business, employment, target and hunting, is included, but permit information is not available on an individual basis.”
The Journal News submitted Freedom of Information requests for the names and addresses of all pistol permit holders in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties. It used Google Maps to pinpoint specific locations and included the names and addresses of permit holders.
The Gannett owned newspaper did not specify a reason for invading the privacy of handgun owners. However, considering the animosity of officialdom in the state toward the Second Amendment and the right to own firearms, the reason for outing legal handgun owners should be obvious.
The Journal News map resembles others posted online revealing the names and addresses of convicted sex offenders, thus giving the impression that handgun ownership is criminal.
New York governor Andrew Cuomo called for gun confiscation last week following the shooting at the Sandy Hook elementary school. “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it,” the governor told a local radio station during an interview.
New York City mayor and noted anti-Second Amendment activist Michael Bloomberg went on Meet the Press on December 15 and demanded Obama issue an “executive action” calling for the ATF and the Justice Department to enforce new regulations aimed at law-abiding American practicing their right to own firearms. “What the president can do is number one, through executive action, he can order his agencies to enforce the laws more aggressively,” Bloomberg said.
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Someone decided that turn about was fair play. Below is the information on the publisher of the Journal-News, the newspaper that published all the names and addresses of licensed pistol permit holders in three New York Counties.
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Sauce for the goose or, home address and phone number of Journal-News publisher
Source: http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/ (http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/)
White Plains newspaper The Journal- News, a Gannett publication, has published the full name and address of every licensed pistol permit holder in three New York counties. I don’t know whether the Journal’s publisher Janet Hasson is a permit holder herself, but here’s how to find her to ask:
(UPDATE: Uh oh – InstaPundit’s linked here. Hundreds of thousands of readers; Janet, you have a great Christmas Eve)
Janet Hasson
3 Gate House Lane
Mamaroneck, NY 10534.
Phone number: (248) 594-2197
You might also try (914) 525-1923, but the area code is just a guess on the assumption that this number is a land line.
There’s a photo showing her Mamaroneck house – interior shots are on Zillow: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3-Gate-House-Ln-Mamaroneck-NY-10543/33051179_zpid/ (http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3-Gate-House-Ln-Mamaroneck-NY-10543/33051179_zpid/)
UPDATE: From reader RJS: Gannett’s CEO-
Gracia C Martore
728 Springvale Rd
Great Falls, VA 22066
(703) 759-5954
The reporter on the story is:
Dwight R Worley
23006 139 Ave
Springfield Gardens, NY 11413
(718) 527-0832
Janet Hasson herself is married with one child, and her personal interests, as culled from her credit card records, are noted below:
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Phone numbers have been disconnected :chuckle:
I was just trying to wish a Merry Christmas
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Perfect!
Thanks for the link Dale!
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One of the reasons I will never get a CPL.
I am seriously leaning toward this view.
Best keep 'em visible then!
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The links may be repeats from earlier in the post string.
We need to push for laws to protect law-abiding citizens from media abuses like this.
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Own a gun? We know where you live
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/own-a-gun-we-know-where-you-live/
There are some very troubling trends in irresponsible reporting by the media to achieve their agendas. These trends are threats to our cherished freedoms, our privacy, and our safety.
Write your representatives and ask them to put a stop to this abuse by the media.
This is a link to an article that provides an interactive map to identify the names and addresses of gun permit holders in some areas of New York.
Leave the publishers a comment to let them know how you feel about this careless and irresponsible article.
“Map: Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?”
http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood
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Another fine example of the Public Records Act. Child molesters get less publicity it seems.
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There are a lot of problems with this.
For starters, the idea of a CWP is amity not enmity with society.
The President (And his Media) has promised to bring the full power of his Office, (and his Media) upon the American public. We can fold and all become discraced sheep so he may rule in peace. Or, we can stand as the Free People we are. His Media only has power if we listen. As far as I am concerned they can go frack themselves.
If they come, they will come. It won't be until that time people will know what they will do. I have never had so much disgust for Government and Their Media.
I love Utah, I hope more States follow. I have to admit, if I left Washington it would not be all bad. If it follows California I won't stay here.
Even my towns CWP renewals are backlogs weeks. Not hours or days, weeks, for renewals. And they are very friendly towards CWP.