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Equipment & Gear => Power Equipment & RV => Topic started by: jackelope on December 25, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
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Push button ignition and the ability to boil enough water for a MH meal are my 2 requirements. There's multiple choices as far as they go. Curious to see which ones folks prefer.
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I have the regular old one and it works great I have no complants. :twocents:
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Pocket rocket for me
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I run the old regular one it works great.
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Sol ti
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Are you stuck on a Jet Boil? If not take a look at a pocket rocket with a Stoic Ti Kettle. Much smaller and lighter and it will save you a few bucks too. It doesn't have a built in ignition though.
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Id say it depends on your hunt, i have the solo cup style an the group style an like em both but no reason for the group pot if ya aint in a group ..the lighter stoves are sweet in hot weather but jetboil is pretty nice when goins get tuff..winter camping..starting fires in the rain...dryn socks off..there a great tool to have
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Are you stuck on a Jet Boil? If not take a look at a pocket rocket with a Stoic Ti Kettle. Much smaller and lighter and it will save you a few bucks too. It doesn't have a built in ignition though.
Or the Optimus for 89 bucks. Works great. Compact, light, and haven't had a problem with it yet. Boils water fast and fuel lasts a long time. :twocents:
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The nice thing about the jetboil is how efficient they are .No other stoves compare. :tup:
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The Flash for me, but have a friend that owns the Sol. The Flash seems to boil water plenty fast enough for me, although in lower temps the Sol boiled water a little faster than my Flash.
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I have a couple stoves along the line of the pocket rocket. I used them both this year a few times. I found they worked great up to about 7k feet. I spent 2 days using one at almost 10k and it took forrrrrrr ever to boil water. I used a ton of fuel. I'm thinking by trying the jetboil I might do a little better.
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P.s. wind was not a huge factor. We were behind a wall.
I'm sure it was the elevation.(I think)
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At higher elevations you are usually going to have lower barometric pressure also remember the initial water temp maybe very different which will effect the time to boil
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Are you using a Ti pot?
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I run the old regular one it works great.
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I have about five backpack type stoves and I use this one most of the time. Unless I fly somewhere then I take a white gas stove since most guide outfits and outfitters have that fuel when I land. I do think the white gas works a little better above 7,000'.
Got one of the smaller versions last year. Not enough weight savings to make the difference I was hoping for. Took two pots to make a MH meal so quicker boiling time did not really save me anything either. Great for a cup-o-noodles on the go or a hot mountain mocha while glassing. But I like the original much better.
Used the big Jetboil camp pot with the white gas on my last goat hunt. Set-up was a bit funky trying to make it work. But once I figured that out it was a great combination. Other than I find it difficult to maintain a simmer with the white fuel stoves that I have.
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I have a couple stoves along the line of the pocket rocket. I used them both this year a few times. I found they worked great up to about 7k feet. I spent 2 days using one at almost 10k and it took forrrrrrr ever to boil water. I used a ton of fuel. I'm thinking by trying the jetboil I might do a little better.
It's the altitude, I use a pocket rocket and my dad uses a similar model (forget who makes it).
we each took 1 fuel can for a 5 day trip at 7k-8k. he ran out on day 4 and then shared mine, it still had some left when we were done but not much. at lower elevations, say 5k, that same can would last me 2 or 3 trips.
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The nice thing about the jetboil is how efficient they are .No other stoves compare. :tup:
The MSR Reactor stove will boil water faster. My friend was a big Jetboil fan until we did some side by side comparisons. He shelved his Jetboil and bought a Reactor.
http://www.rei.com/product/736977/msr-reactor-stove-system (http://www.rei.com/product/736977/msr-reactor-stove-system)
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I'm sure it's the altitude. The weird thing is water boils at a lower temp at altitude, yet it takes longer to get there. I was thinking that a more efficient stove would help that. Just wasn't sure if the jetboils were more efficient enough to make a difference.
In reality how much time am I going to spend above 7k and is it enough to justify spending $100+ on a stove when I already have a couple decent stoves.
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The differences with Jetboil are any tagged as "Sol" have their new burner which is more efficient at altitude and/or colder temps. The other (Flash and Zip) are their older burner. I can still boil water although it takes a minute or two longer with the Flash in 25-30F temps.
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I bought the Jetboil flash this year as my first stove. I looked at a lot of other brands, but this seemed to be the best bang for the buck to include simplicity in packing everything inside itself. I could have spent more money on the Sol Ti version another $149 vs $89. It would save another 5.5 ounces of weight and another 15 seconds cook time.
we used 2 jet boil stoves between 3 guys and i tested just how many boils I could get out of 1 canister. We got over 20 boils at 15-35 degree temps between 5000-6000 feet in elevation. At this temp and elevation it took longer than the 2 min 30 seconds they proclaimed, but not much longer (maybe 3 - 4 minutes.)
I have been very happy so far and have about 30 boils on it so far.
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Hey Jackelope, I still have that "original" model Jetboil if you're interested...I think that you saw it once already and I haven't used it since.
I'm using a Jetboil SOL Ti now and/or a MSR Pocket Rocket with a Backcountry.com Ti cup.
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I have the Jetboil SOL and it does anything I want it to do. I believe there is a second generation fuel designed for cold and higher altitude that is supposed to work better. It works great for the Mountain House meals and I did buy the coffee press but I have only used that one time. I carry it in my car when on trips with my emergency box so I can have a hot drink or meal if I break down or if I just want a hot cup of coffee. Light weight and a second larger canister of fuel weighs very little. Good luck.
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I think you'd do better at 10,000' with a white gas stove than a butane mix. I do like my Pocket rocket although I've never had it to 10,000'. Last year I switched from an aluminum pot to the Snow Peak Ti Hybrid Trail cookset. The Ti seems to heat faster than the aluminum. The bowl comes in handy and I use the pan as a lid on the pot when boiling water, keeping the heat in so it boils faster. The combination is lighter than the Jeboil system too. The Jetboil does have a nice wind screen built in but I just use some aluminum foil.
-Steve
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Flash for me. No complaints here.
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I had the the above mentioned Pocket Rocket and Stoic Kettle (with lid) at 7-8k (Late October anywhere from 20-40 degrees) this year for 5 days with one can of fuel (small one, 4oz?). I used it for a MH Breakfast and coffee in the a.m. and MH Dinner at night. Sometimes I boiled it for both of us just so we didn't have to pull out two stoves. I still had some fuel left at the end of the trip, not much but still some left.
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Having owned several backbacking stoves, I can honestly say that the Jetboil with the instant ignition has been with out a doubt the best all around stove I have ever used. Yes, some may boil quicker and be smaller, etc., however the Jetboil is bullet proof, always works great, and is perfect for easy set up, use, etc. With that said, I have never used mine above 5k foot elevation.
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The nice thing about the jetboil is how efficient they are .No other stoves compare. :tup:
The MSR Reactor stove will boil water faster. My friend was a big Jetboil fan until we did some side by side comparisons. He shelved his Jetboil and bought a Reactor.
http://www.rei.com/product/736977/msr-reactor-stove-system (http://www.rei.com/product/736977/msr-reactor-stove-system)
msr REACTOR IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO. they have a couple pot sizes and boils water in about 1 min give or take on altitude and ambient temp. we use them for big game and water fowl hunting. nothing like a nice warm Mt house in the blind.
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Having owned several backbacking stoves, I can honestly say that the Jetboil with the instant ignition has been with out a doubt the best all around stove I have ever used. Yes, some may boil quicker and be smaller, etc., however the Jetboil is bullet proof, always works great, and is perfect for easy set up, use, etc.
I agree with this, I am still using my 1st jetboil that I bought in '05 after Backpacker magazine named it the "Best of the Year". The ignitor has quit working but the stove keeps going. I have used mine at 10k+ many times and it takes a lot more time, but it will get the water boiling.
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I wonder if the Jetboil Ti pot heats more efficiently than the aluminum pot? Does anyone use one at higher elevations?
-Steve
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I have a couple stoves along the line of the pocket rocket. I used them both this year a few times. I found they worked great up to about 7k feet. I spent 2 days using one at almost 10k and it took forrrrrrr ever to boil water. I used a ton of fuel. I'm thinking by trying the jetboil I might do a little better.
Talk to DBHAWTHORN as he is very much so in the know on gear (rather he will admit it or not :chuckle:, his youngins always have the latest and greatest).... But i do recall a time when I was stomping around the high country as well, and seems as though they had special canisters for higher altitudes? :dunno: Been 6+ years ago, but if that don't work, like already mentioned, get a MSR stove. Some will burn ANYTHING flammable. :twocents:
(Sorry DB :chuckle: :chuckle:)
WB
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The nice thing about the jetboil is how efficient they are .No other stoves compare. :tup:
The MSR Reactor stove will boil water faster. My friend was a big Jetboil fan until we did some side by side comparisons. He shelved his Jetboil and bought a Reactor.
http://www.rei.com/product/736977/msr-reactor-stove-system (http://www.rei.com/product/736977/msr-reactor-stove-system)
I cant say for certin that it is faster( than the reactor) but it (jetboil sol ti) is ALOT lighter.My buddy has the reactor and it is too bulky and heavy for backcountry solo use in my opinion.
Someone also posted about not being able to get a mountainhouse meals worth of water out of 1 boil with the sol , but i have only ever needed about 2 cups for any mountainhouse meal that i have had eaten ( which the jetboil sol will do no problem).