Post by: Huntbear on December 26, 2012, 09:12:35 AM
Sen. Feinstein suggests national buyback of guns
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said that she and other gun control advocates are considering a law that would create a program to purchase weapons from gun owners, a proposal that could be compulsory.
“We are also looking at a buy-back program,” Feinstein said today in a press conference. “Now, again, this is a work in progress so these are ideas in the development.”
Gov. Andrew Cuomo, D-N.Y., already discussed the possibility of a buy-back law for his state, but he made clear it would be a forced buyback.
“Confiscation could be an option,” Cuomo told The New York Times yesterday when discussing semiautomatic weapons. “Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”
Australia implemented a mandatory buyback program in 1996 following a mass shooting. “The law banned semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns and put in place a mandatory buy-back program for newly banned weapons,” USA Today recalls. “The buyback led to the destruction of 650,000 gun.”
....more at the link....
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 26, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 26, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 26, 2012, 09:26:17 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 26, 2012, 09:30:20 AM
Post by: Huntbear on December 26, 2012, 09:36:21 AM
I think they have finally come to the realization that increased regulations is simply pissing into the wind, only problem is compulsory buy back would only disarm the people that would not commit homicide with them anyway.
Same as the new restrictions would do.....
So when are they going to actually enforce the existing laws and put criminals behind bars.... oh wait, that would mean prosecuting themselves.... forgot, sorry..
Post by: bearpaw on December 26, 2012, 09:44:10 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 26, 2012, 09:49:28 AM
.... they going to actually enforce the existing laws and put criminals behind bars.... oh wait, that would mean prosecuting themselves.... forgot, sorry..
Oh C'mon Huntbear, you don't think that someone with such a visceral hatred of guns and contempt of the common citizen such as Dianne Feinstien would own a gun herself, do you? :rolleyes:
Dianne Feinstein has/had a concealed weapons permit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1EObqM9Z0s#ws)
Post by: ribka on December 26, 2012, 09:50:28 AM
Post by: csaaphill on December 26, 2012, 10:06:57 AM
Post by: bearpaw on December 26, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
maybe correct me but did not at least a few members on here state that Obama and the Dems were not going to pursue a ban and/or confiscation of firearms before the election?
That's the way I remember it. :chuckle:
Post by: arees on December 26, 2012, 10:10:33 AM
Post by: Wea300mag on December 26, 2012, 10:11:22 AM
Other than my Tikka in the Member Classifieds, I'm not interested in selling any of my guns. >:(
Post by: mossy8352 on December 26, 2012, 10:14:51 AM
Post by: csaaphill on December 26, 2012, 10:16:19 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on December 26, 2012, 10:18:05 AM
:chuckle:maybe correct me but did not at least a few members on here state that Obama and the Dems were not going to pursue a ban and/or confiscation of firearms before the election?
That's the way I remember it. :chuckle:
Unfortunately, that president of theirs, during debate #2 made the statements "My belief is that we have to enforce the laws we've already got, make sure that we're keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill" .....and..... "Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence."
Those few members were living in denial. what a surprise!
Post by: PolarBear on December 26, 2012, 10:21:33 AM
I agree that we need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and thee mentally ill such as all extreme liberals!
Post by: addicted2hunting on December 26, 2012, 10:27:13 AM
Post by: norsepeak on December 26, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Post by: jess on December 26, 2012, 10:44:08 AM
Post by: csaaphill on December 26, 2012, 11:10:40 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 26, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
http://www.therecord.com/news/world/article/858573--gun-buyback-program-surges-in-connecticut-city (http://www.therecord.com/news/world/article/858573--gun-buyback-program-surges-in-connecticut-city)
Just like lambs being led to slaughter! :bash: :bash:
Post by: jess on December 26, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 26, 2012, 11:48:38 AM
the problem is when the goverment gets resistance (and they will) our muslim obama will declare martial law! Then the constitution will no longer apply! Its all part of his plan to be a king and ruin america!
Kings historically only stayed in power as long as they had the money to pay their many mercenaries. Obama has no money to pay mercenaries....not for long anyway. And the mercenaries are going to demand a high salary when they see what a dangerous occupation it is! :chuckle:
Post by: washelkhunter on December 26, 2012, 11:59:25 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 26, 2012, 02:18:20 PM
maybe correct me but did not at least a few members on here state that Obama and the Dems were not going to pursue a ban and/or confiscation of firearms before the election?I don't think it was me, but I agree they wouldn't have even really broached the subject of guns BEFORE the election. Not in what was being predicted to be a close race.
As for a buyback, maybe Holder should try buying some of his back.
So we don't turn em in then what? Prison or is there still a 4th ammendment or is that gone too, since probable cause can be made up?Nothing, under the 5th amendment you wouldn't do anything but keep them hidden. Else it would be self incrimination. Like if they wanted full registration, only the criminals are not required to go register.
Post by: Atroxus on December 26, 2012, 02:40:48 PM
Ugh just read this and am disgusted. I keep seeing/hearing a lot of "You don't need guns." or "You don't need this type of gun" or "You don't need that many guns."
To that I say guns are like car insurance. If you never get in an accident you could say you never needed it. If you get into an accident and don't have it, or don't have enough then it's too late though. Nobody knows when or if they will get in a car accident, and most sane people do not seek out accidents, but nobody has their motives questioned, or is called paranoid for carrying auto insurance.
Guns are our insurance policy against not just robbers, murderers, kidnappers and rapists, but against corrupt government officials who would strip us of our constitutional rights, and foreign powers who would like to enslave us. For those who are lucky enough to never be the victims of violent crime; sure you probably don't "need" a gun. Our government is not so bad right now, and nobody is trying to invade the US at the moment either, so God willing we will never "need" guns to defend our nation. Personally though I would rather have my guns and never need them, then find myself in need at some future date and not have them.
Post by: csaaphill on December 26, 2012, 02:42:34 PM
maybe correct me but did not at least a few members on here state that Obama and the Dems were not going to pursue a ban and/or confiscation of firearms before the election?I don't think it was me, but I agree they wouldn't have even really broached the subject of guns BEFORE the election. Not in what was being predicted to be a close race.
As for a buyback, maybe Holder should try buying some of his back.So we don't turn em in then what? Prison or is there still a 4th ammendment or is that gone too, since probable cause can be made up?Nothing, under the 5th amendment you wouldn't do anything but keep them hidden. Else it would be self incrimination. Like if they wanted full registration, only the criminals are not required to go register.
doesn't make me feel better but ya.
Post by: csaaphill on December 26, 2012, 02:45:39 PM
i see A+ NRA ratings turning to F- all the time.
Post by: Bigshooter on December 26, 2012, 02:56:26 PM
so anyone know the numbers in the house since it has to pass there first that are still on our side.As much as I hate Harry Reid, he has kept a lot of anti-gun laws from ever coming to a vote on the senate floor. I do not believe any anti-gun law introduced in the senate will make it to the house. The votes are not there. And there are a lot of liberals from conservative enough states up for reelection in 2014 that are not going to want to have to defend voting for an anti-gun law.
i see A+ NRA ratings turning to F- all the time.
Post by: et1702 on December 26, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
so anyone know the numbers in the house since it has to pass there first that are still on our side.As much as I hate Harry Reid, he has kept a lot of anti-gun laws from ever coming to a vote on the senate floor. I do not believe any anti-gun law introduced in the senate will make it to the house. The votes are not there. And there are a lot of liberals from conservative enough states up for reelection in 2014 that are not going to want to have to defend voting for an anti-gun law.
i see A+ NRA ratings turning to F- all the time.
Don't count on this!!! Obummer and lackeys WILL get something thru both houses. Just look at all the media attention on any and all firearms incidents in the news since Newtown. Those liberals will flip and say it was what the public wanted. It's a sad state of affairs in our great country right now. But, I think we are outnumbered on this one. Not giving up yet, but I think the writing is on the wall. Something will be done. The extent of the damage to our liberties is what we will need to vigorously defend.
ET
Post by: woodswalker on December 26, 2012, 03:18:42 PM
http://www.therecord.com/news/world/article/858573--gun-buyback-program-surges-in-connecticut-city (http://www.therecord.com/news/world/article/858573--gun-buyback-program-surges-in-connecticut-city)
Just like lambs being led to slaughter! :bash: :bash:
Yup..the Sheople are outting themselves. SHOULD take names and link up with folks wanting "protected" later, if you sold a gun in the circus procedings..you get no help as you willingly gave up other options.
Post by: lokidog on December 26, 2012, 05:52:37 PM
Anyone want to sell their guns for $100, give me a chance first....
Hey Magnanimous, you're being kind of quiet on this one. Thought you said it wouldn't happen. :dunno:
Post by: Bigshooter on December 26, 2012, 06:31:04 PM
so anyone know the numbers in the house since it has to pass there first that are still on our side.As much as I hate Harry Reid, he has kept a lot of anti-gun laws from ever coming to a vote on the senate floor. I do not believe any anti-gun law introduced in the senate will make it to the house. The votes are not there. And there are a lot of liberals from conservative enough states up for reelection in 2014 that are not going to want to have to defend voting for an anti-gun law.
i see A+ NRA ratings turning to F- all the time.
Don't count on this!!! Obummer and lackeys WILL get something thru both houses. Just look at all the media attention on any and all firearms incidents in the news since Newtown. Those liberals will flip and say it was what the public wanted. It's a sad state of affairs in our great country right now. But, I think we are outnumbered on this one. Not giving up yet, but I think the writing is on the wall. Something will be done. The extent of the damage to our liberties is what we will need to vigorously defend.
ET
In 1994 polls showed 60+% of people wanted more gun control. The polls today are only just over 50%. Also back in 1994 republicans took the house for the first time in like 60 years running against democrats that voted for the Brady Bill. I'm sure there were a couple more but i only remember one republican in the house voting for the Brady Bill, and that was the POS Tom Ridge.
Post by: ICEMAN on December 26, 2012, 07:00:19 PM
Post by: Huntbear on December 26, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
I see masses of people lining up for the voluntary buy backs in Los Angelas and elsewhere. Wonder where the money comes from for these? :bash:
Anyone want to sell their guns for $100, give me a chance first....
Hey Magnanimous, you're being kind of quiet on this one. Thought you said it wouldn't happen. :dunno:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Post by: csaaphill on December 26, 2012, 10:01:36 PM
http://www.therecord.com/news/world/article/858573--gun-buyback-program-surges-in-connecticut-city (http://www.therecord.com/news/world/article/858573--gun-buyback-program-surges-in-connecticut-city)
Just like lambs being led to slaughter! :bash: :bash:
Yup..the Sheople are outting themselves. SHOULD take names and link up with folks wanting "protected" later, if you sold a gun in the circus procedings..you get no help as you willingly gave up other options.
ya Se washington will need or will come running if and when needed.
Post by: B Mo on December 26, 2012, 11:45:52 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 27, 2012, 02:58:00 AM
Post by: Jekemi on December 29, 2012, 05:33:18 AM
Post by: csaaphill on December 30, 2012, 03:35:32 AM
Now is not the time to "sell guns." Now is the time to acquire guns, all the guns you can. Take out a bank loan, max out your credit card, do whatever it takes to acquire as many guns and as much ammunition as you can. Arm yourself and your family, and fortify your home. When the gun confiscators knock on your door greet them with the only message the dictator-in-chief understands: a hale of gunfire. If 5 million patriots, believers in the Constitution do this We will win the battle. Remember, we are not the law-breakers, they are the illegal ones. They are the ones violating the Constitution of the United States. There can be no compromise, no conciliation, no retreat. We are not the UK or Australia, we are free citizens who cherish our liberties more that all else. Give in now and we will become serfs and slaves, subjects of tyranny.damn strait.
Post by: Bean Counter on December 30, 2012, 08:12:00 AM
Post by: csaaphill on December 30, 2012, 11:31:15 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 31, 2012, 09:03:04 AM